Covid-19

[BarnBuster]

Not Covid related, but anything that has the potential to save a quarter of a million kids a year from a nasty death, I'll take.

A ‘Historic Event’: First Malaria Vaccine Approved by W.H.O. (Published 2021)

Malaria kills about 500,000 people each year, about half of them children in Africa. The new vaccine isn’t perfect, but it will help turn the tide, experts said.

www.nytimes.com

 

[raratt]

From Vermont Dept of Health.

 

[Dr.Amber Trichome]

“A mentally disturbed Maryland man”

Yeah like you, a mental anti vaxxer. Everyone knows anti vaxxers are out to lunch. Lol. A dying breed. ( thank god)

 

[DarkWeb]

Did you look at the data analysis I posted?

I live here.

 

[PJ Diaz]

From Vermont Dept of Health.
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Using any numbers "since January" are irrelevant, as no one was yet vaccinated in January. Heck, even the first week of March only 10% were vaccinated. It wasn't until the start of May that we even hit the 30% mark. Meanwhile January had the biggest surge of the entire pandemic, and you want to use that wave to somehow prove a point. Bad data points there.

 

[DarkWeb]

Using any numbers "since January" are irrelevant, as no one was yet vaccinated in January. Heck, even the first week of March only 10% were vaccinated. It wasn't until the start of May that we even hit the 30% mark. Meanwhile January had the biggest surge of the entire pandemic, and you want to use that wave to somehow prove a point. Bad data points there.

The numbers would include the longest vaccinated.....and those I would think would be the ones starting to get it and have a possible "breakthrough". I think a booster is a great idea.

 

[PJ Diaz]

5,226 deaths of vaccinated people in the US, 16,889 hospitalizations, 183 + million vaccinated, 722,268 deaths from covid.

Let's consider those numbers a bit closer.. First of all that's definitely an undercount, because many deaths from breakout cases are never reported to the CDC. But for the sake of argument, let's go with that number anyway..

So, that 5226 number was from Sept 27th:



I mean that sounds pretty good, only 5226 vaccine deaths during the pandemic, but wait let's see how it looked one week prior:



Hmm.. looks like an increase of around 800 vaccinated deaths in just one week. Must be an anomaly right? Let's look at the week prior to that..



Wow, holy smokes! It looks like that week we went up close to 1500 deaths.

Looks like we are averaging around 1000 deaths among the vaccinated a week, and that number is expected to rise with vaccine efficacy waning.

 

[raratt]

Using any numbers "since January" are irrelevant, as no one was yet vaccinated in January. Heck, even the first week of March only 10% were vaccinated. It wasn't until the start of May that we even hit the 30% mark. Meanwhile January had the biggest surge of the entire pandemic, and you want to use that wave to somehow prove a point. Bad data points there.

Vaccinations started mid December 2020. You have the bad data.

 

[PJ Diaz]

The numbers would include the longest vaccinated.....and those I would think would be the ones starting to get it and have a possible "breakthrough". I think a booster is a great idea.

No one was vaccinated in January, but that is when the highest death count too place. You can't use a time period when vaccination was not even a thing to try to prove a point about vaccination efficacy. It's basic statistics 101.

 

[raratt]

No one was vaccinated in January, but that is when the highest death count too place. You can't use a time period when vaccination was not even a thing to try to prove a point about vaccination efficacy. It's basic statistics 101.

You might want to read the timeframe covered.

 

[PJ Diaz]

Vaccinations started mid December 2020. You have the bad data.

The key word there is "started". No one is considered vaccinated until 2-weeks after the second dose, except in the case on single shot jabs. I don't have bad data, but you have a bad understanding.

 

[DarkWeb]

No one was vaccinated in January, but that is when the highest death count too place. You can't use a time period when vaccination was not even a thing to try to prove a point about vaccination efficacy. It's basic statistics 101.

My wife was. And she wasn't the first....

 

[PJ Diaz]

You might want to read the timeframe covered.

I did, this is from what you posted:

 

[PJ Diaz]

My wife was. And she wasn't the first....

She received her second jab during January, or her first?

 

[DarkWeb]

She received her second jab during January, or her first?

Second was in January. I think you might want to check your shit.

 

[PJ Diaz]

OK, so I was wrong. By the end of January 1.7% of the US population was fully vaxxed. It's still not a good data point statistically speaking:

 

[DarkWeb]

OK, so I was wrong. By the end of January 1.7% of the US population was fully vaxxed. It's still not a good data point statistically speaking:

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[PJ Diaz]

If you guys don't understand how stupid it is to use a time period of maximum covid cases combined with the lowest vaccination rate to somehow prove efficacy, then you should really take statistics again.

 

[raratt]

January to Sep. is the inclusive time frame, and the data was breakthrough cases. It said nothing about efficacy.

 

[PJ Diaz]

January to Sep. is the inclusive time frame, and the data was breakthrough cases. It said nothing about efficacy.

Right, but you are speaking about a % of breakthrough cases, relative to the total number of cases in a specific subset. In the subset mentioned, the most cases occurred during January, which is also a time when almost no one was vaccinated, so of course out of those 3 million cases during January, none of them will be breakthrough cases. Somehow you want to use that bastardized data to prove your case. Nope, doesn't work like that. Again, this is statistics 101.

It is about efficacy though. Breakthrough cases happen when the vaccine wasn't effective.