Need help!!!
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CheGueVapo
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I like quiz that never reveal...
i say 4-5...
Definetly later than 3, not earlier than 6.
To many factors, cant say.
But the leaves not looking good.
Overfeed...IMHO.... during that state... uuuuuh no, that stalls.
Not even knowing the flowring week of my plans, seems impossibru to me... how come you dont know when about you switched the lights to 12h approximately.... you dont even know how many monthes passed since then?????? Alzheimers ?
i say 4-5...
Definetly later than 3, not earlier than 6.
To many factors, cant say.
But the leaves not looking good.
Overfeed...IMHO.... during that state... uuuuuh no, that stalls.
Not even knowing the flowring week of my plans, seems impossibru to me... how come you dont know when about you switched the lights to 12h approximately.... you dont even know how many monthes passed since then?????? Alzheimers ?
MickFoster
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Can I send you a calendar?
Autodoctor
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I say 3
Lordhooha
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Doesn’t matter what week they’re in
I know it's been about 4 weeks since I switch lights but some people say don't start counting weeks until you see bud formationI like quiz that never reveal...
i say 4-5...
Definetly later than 3, not earlier than 6.
To many factors, cant say.
But the leaves not looking good.
Overfeed...IMHO.... during that state... uuuuuh no, that stalls.
Not even knowing the flowring week of my plans, seems impossibru to me... how come you dont know when about you switched the lights to 12h approximately.... you dont even know how many monthes passed since then?????? Alzheimers ?
What do u mean?
Yea then I'll send it back when I finish
PopAndSonGrows
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If they're clones, i say week 3. If seed, I say week 4.
Still doesn't matter. They're done when they're done, knowing what week they're in doesn't change that.
Still doesn't matter. They're done when they're done, knowing what week they're in doesn't change that.
Lordhooha
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Why even count? They’ll be done when they’re done So what’s the use in counting?
LeastExpectedGrower
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Weeks are fun when you run a journal, but don't mean anything in terms of your actual grow progress. They'll do what they do no matter what week it is, or isn't. If you're following some seed-seller's idea of weeks for grow or weeks for flower, throw that right out the window. Do spend some time around here paying attention on how to judge when plants are ready for actual harvesting.
CheGueVapo
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Well that depends on what you want to scale, or say.
For just telling somebody at where you are, it is enough to say when you switched the lights.
Depending on the quality of light, the introduction of the flowering can take longer or be shorter.
Thats why usually to determine the point at where you are for feeding etc... the actual state of the actual flowering matters, not when you switched the lights.
you count from the first signs of flowering to find out the actual state.
I think thats not bud-formation but the first calyxes with stigmas showing up on the internodes.
Sometimes these show on old plans in veg already and so they are instantly into flowering with switching the lights.
Usually i see them first about 1 week after switching the light from cuttings having 3-4 weeks from the point of cutting... and then I start counting the weeks that the breeders say. And that is always ON POINT with any strain.
Thatway you take out the "flowering introduction" time.... that is important to determine how far you really are, to take the right decision at the right time, not to late or to early.
The breeders always count from the first signs of flowers for the given duration of flowering.
PS: For example with NIR from the first day of switching the lights to 12h..... introduces the flowering significantly faster than without NIR. That saves you time, of the actual total flowering time, when the first signs start earlier say 2 or 3days.
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CheGueVapo
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Thats not entirely true.
There's nutritional plans.
And these are usually showing 2 weeks vegetation and 10 week flowering scale.
Also breeders tell you weeks-durations from the first signs of flowering!
1 week represents 10% of the duration!... see?
For me it works out to count those weeks from the first signs of flowering that I see.
Without NIR enhancement, thats usually about day 7th-9th day after switching the lights to 12h to bring breeders duration and nutritional plan perfect in line!
This is why some claim the breeders are lying, you need always longer.... no they just count correct for high intensities, not from switching the light but from the first signs of flowering. Lower DLI and counting from switching... sure you need multipleweeks longer that way, it's not the breeders fault.
Now when you have a different strain, say a 12 week long flowering strain... you scale that nutritional plan. It's still cannabis... just needing longer or shorter. Anyways... you NOT count the introduction time... its not yet the real flowering. Just the "introduction".
That way you do the right stuff the right time. It's useful for best results!
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CheGueVapo
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Example:
This is 28 days after switching the lights to 12h. By knowing that you can say if good for that time or weak, compared to your's experience. Let me know
This is also 20 days INTO flowering from the first signs of flowering. This is what I use to plan my growers actions.
This strain is 8-9 weeks.... my nutritional plan from BB is 10 weeks-scale....
Next pic 3 weeks later.
This is now 49 days after switchign the light.... you get an idea... it still got a lot to go.
This is also 41 days into flowering.... the breeder says 8-9 weeks or 63 days of THAT.
So i have at least 22 days or a little more than 3 weeks to go.
Now i know exactly when I start only giving RO-water plus some molasses, say "flush", but I dont drain. In not earlier than 8 days.
I know exactly when which week to pick on my nutritional-schedule.
So weeks can be VERY usefull... for best results!
This is 28 days after switching the lights to 12h. By knowing that you can say if good for that time or weak, compared to your's experience. Let me know
This is also 20 days INTO flowering from the first signs of flowering. This is what I use to plan my growers actions.
This strain is 8-9 weeks.... my nutritional plan from BB is 10 weeks-scale....
Next pic 3 weeks later.
This is now 49 days after switchign the light.... you get an idea... it still got a lot to go.
This is also 41 days into flowering.... the breeder says 8-9 weeks or 63 days of THAT.
So i have at least 22 days or a little more than 3 weeks to go.
Now i know exactly when I start only giving RO-water plus some molasses, say "flush", but I dont drain. In not earlier than 8 days.
I know exactly when which week to pick on my nutritional-schedule.
So weeks can be VERY usefull... for best results!
Southernontariogrower
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Just finished transition, so shes in flower! How far? No clue!
LeastExpectedGrower
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Sorry, BS. Breeders make up numbers so that people think they'll have a bowl full of weed sooner than they will and most often are off by a good number of weeks. Even with correct DLI accounted for.
But hey, you DO love to hear yourself talk don't you. Very precocious.
neonfree
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Never go by what a breeder says itll take to finish ever, your style of growing and environment is totally different, not to mention the phenom you get from seeds popped. Breeders can only give a rough estimate, an average taken from their environment. Sometimes from multiple but who is to know. The plant will tell you when its done, simple as that. I do breed as well, but i can mainly only give estimates, phenomes that show etc. Which can also change drastically if your talking a f1 compared to even an f2 lol, the f2 can show lots of variables.
LeastExpectedGrower
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I would say week 4 ish since flip!!
I just peeped some pics of my current grow and I'd guess this is a really solid guess.
If concerned with a feed schedule, I'd be thinking in terms of 'early flower' (where those are now), mid-flower (bigger buds, white pistils), mid flower (mix of orange and white pistils, buds expanding), and late flower (buds filling out, calyxes swelling).
