Do you guys feel like it’s time to cut these girls ??

PadawanWarrior

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Flushing is a myth.

Its also a myth to cut back on Nitrogen during flowering. The plant does its most growth during flowering.
All Nitrogen is, is Protein. Humans eat protein, and our bodies turn it into nitrogen. Plants dont do this process.

For an 8 week strain it best to cut back on ALL NUTRIENTS during the last 2 weeks. Feed about 50% of what they were normally getting
Plants in an 8 week strain need ever increasing amounts of EVERYTHING up until the 6th week.
N isn't a protein. It is used to create proteins.

 

jimihendrix1

Well-Known Member
Yes it is. People eat protein, and our bodies turn it into Nitrogen.

Thats why athe;lets should eat protein ablut every 3 hours to keep the body in positive nitrogen balance.

What is the percentage of nitrogen in most proteins?
To determine the crude protein content of a forage or feedstuff, first measure the nitrogen content of the feed. Then multiply the nitrogen value by 6.25, because proteins typically contain 16 percent nitrogen (1/.16 = 6.25). Crude protein is comprised of both true protein and nonprotein nitrogen.

Although nucleic acids also contain nitrogen (section 9.2.1), protein is the major dietary source of nitrogenous compounds, and measurement of total nitrogen intake gives a good estimate of protein
 

Dank Bongula

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For a beginner grower on their first grow that's not so easy to understand and implement. Flowering time gives you a basis at least for when the plant is supposed to be at its peak. Running it shorter or longer is preference.
That's why we offer real world advice. Considering we do not have the same nutes, environment and lights that a breeder uses, variation among phenotypes also being taken into consideration and we are not necessarily built on trying to turn a profit. Also why we provide pics.

Ex. I am growing a big gun auto, all sources state 63-70 days to harvest. This is it today at day 85...
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Nobody in their right mind would harvest this.
 

freewanderer04

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That's why we offer real world advice. Considering we do not have the same nutes, environment and lights that a breeder uses, variation among phenotypes also being taken into consideration and we are not necessarily built on trying to turn a profit. Also why we provide pics.

Ex. I am growing a big gun auto, all sources state 63-70 days to harvest. This is it today at day 85...
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Nobody in their right mind would harvest this.
Yeah that's definitely not ready. With all the phenotypical variation from poly hybrids that's mostly what is being offered nowadays, it makes sense. That's why I go for the somewhat stable crosses where there have been consistent enough results to give you an accurate flowering range. Like I'm running C99 right now from KOS. Flowering range is listed as 50-57 days. I have one that's going to be spot on. The other may take a little longer. Since it's original Brothers Grimm stock, I looked on their website and it said 55-65 days. So that one will prob go around 65. Either way I have a range that seems to be accurate.
 

twentyeight.threefive

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Yeah that's definitely not ready. With all the phenotypical variation from poly hybrids that's mostly what is being offered nowadays, it makes sense. That's why I go for the somewhat stable crosses where there have been consistent enough results to give you an accurate flowering range. Like I'm running C99 right now from KOS. Flowering range is listed as 50-57 days. I have one that's going to be spot on. The other may take a little longer. Since it's original Brothers Grimm stock, I looked on their website and it said 55-65 days. So that one will prob go around 65. Either way I have a range that seems to be accurate.
How long until your plants hit that breeder harvest window you say they'll be in! Love to see pics.
 

Thundercat

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For a beginner grower on their first grow that's not so easy to understand and implement. Flowering time gives you a basis at least for when the plant is supposed to be at its peak. Running it shorter or longer is preference.
Breeder harvest recommendations do WAAAY more harm for new growers then benefit. They are marketing to sell seeds that's it.

Plants DO NOT grow by a calendar.

The absolute best thing for new growers to do is watch the plants growth and changes. There is plenty of legitimate information out there to learn about grow design, environment, nutrients and deficiencies, and RIU is always here to help when people actually try to learn.

I stopped counting days/weeks years ago, because its totally irrelevant for most people in most gardens. People like to hang on to the "schedule", but plants don't care about your schedule.

IMHO its also very important if you are going to count time that you do it based on when the plant actually begins to flower, NOT WHEN YOU FLIP THE LIGHTS. I don't care what breeders say or claim about how they do it, and I definitely don't care that a bunch of stoners use it as their standard. BIOLOGICALLY plants don't begin to flower instantly, it takes a few days to sometimes a few weeks for flowering to actually take off. So if new growers start counting flowering times at the 12/12 flip but their plants don't start flowering for 2 weeks they are already gonna be confused and off the schedule.
 

Thundercat

Well-Known Member
Here is how you tell if a plant is ready for harvest. If you grow a healthy plant and have a decent environment it will show you all these signs to communicate with you that its done.

The signs of ripeness are pretty standard for cannabis plants.

First a few of the pistils begin turning color and start receding. Your plant is just starting to ripen. Depending on the strain you could still have two months to go. We're just starting this journey.

Two to four weeks later you'll notice that most of the pistils(>80%) have now changed color and curled back into the bud. It's frosty, way bigger than it was a few weeks ago(aren't you glad you waited), and smells dank! It's time, right? Not a chance killer. Patience is a virtue.

Over the next 2-3 weeks it doesn't look much different, maybe a little more swelling in the calyxes, and the rest of the pistils change over, but the stems are starting to bend under the weight of the buds. These ladies are putting on weight internally by adding density and now the buds are doing their final ripening.

Now you begin looking at trichomes, on the calyx, not the leaves, and harvest according to your preference. When looking at trichomes it’s essential to look at them from the side. The bulbous heads can magnify the opaque stalk under it. Looking from the side allows you to more accurately see the condition of the resin in the trichome head.

There is still no rush to harvest, the window just opened, and you have several weeks before you MIGHT start having to think about it possibly beginning to get too ripe. It takes WEEKS for plants to mature not days.

It is very easy to harvest a plant to early. It is very hard to harvest a plant to late. I’ve never seen someone accidentally wait too long.
 

freewanderer04

Well-Known Member
Here is how you tell if a plant is ready for harvest. If you grow a healthy plant and have a decent environment it will show you all these signs to communicate with you that its done.

The signs of ripeness are pretty standard for cannabis plants.

First a few of the pistils begin turning color and start receding. Your plant is just starting to ripen. Depending on the strain you could still have two months to go. We're just starting this journey.

Two to four weeks later you'll notice that most of the pistils(>80%) have now changed color and curled back into the bud. It's frosty, way bigger than it was a few weeks ago(aren't you glad you waited), and smells dank! It's time, right? Not a chance killer. Patience is a virtue.

Over the next 2-3 weeks it doesn't look much different, maybe a little more swelling in the calyxes, and the rest of the pistils change over, but the stems are starting to bend under the weight of the buds. These ladies are putting on weight internally by adding density and now the buds are doing their final ripening.

Now you begin looking at trichomes, on the calyx, not the leaves, and harvest according to your preference. When looking at trichomes it’s essential to look at them from the side. The bulbous heads can magnify the opaque stalk under it. Looking from the side allows you to more accurately see the condition of the resin in the trichome head.

There is still no rush to harvest, the window just opened, and you have several weeks before you MIGHT start having to think about it possibly beginning to get too ripe. It takes WEEKS for plants to mature not days.

It is very easy to harvest a plant to early. It is very hard to harvest a plant to late. I’ve never seen someone accidentally wait too long.
I've definitely ran a plant too long before. F13 Throwback by Old World/DJ Short. It literally just died. Thought it was the weirdest shit ever. Then I ready his book and he said this happens if you run some of his strains too long.
 

Budzbuddha

Well-Known Member
Yes it is. People eat protein, and our bodies turn it into Nitrogen.

Thats why athe;lets should eat protein ablut every 3 hours to keep the body in positive nitrogen balance.

What is the percentage of nitrogen in most proteins?
To determine the crude protein content of a forage or feedstuff, first measure the nitrogen content of the feed. Then multiply the nitrogen value by 6.25, because proteins typically contain 16 percent nitrogen (1/.16 = 6.25). Crude protein is comprised of both true protein and nonprotein nitrogen.

Although nucleic acids also contain nitrogen (section 9.2.1), protein is the major dietary source of nitrogenous compounds, and measurement of total nitrogen intake gives a good estimate of protein
We shit nitrogen
 
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