First Time Shroom Grower PF-Tek

jollygreengiant8

jollygreengiant8

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ahhh yes..i got you now..i thought you were talking about using the colonized jar to make the culture water
so the wbs would be the substrate that the myc grows and colonizes..
then i would take foil off and cover myc with 1/4in. of verm and place into FC..
does that sound right? would i need to mix the wbs and verm for the substrate?
im getting it, but still somewhat confused on everything..methods and terminology are running together and getting mixed up.

I was going to use the syringe because i figured i would put those cakes into the FC when i got back from thanksgiving and then i would inoculate the wbs with the syringe..
but if i can use cakes to colonize a pan or tub or whatever, id definitely what to do that
 
Thundercat

Thundercat

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Ya man thats about right. One of those jars will be more then enough to colonize the size container you showed in your pics the other day. You can also use those colonized jars to colonize more jars. This will allow you to make it perpetual. As far as adding the vermiculite to the WBS, I would mix the WBS substrate the way kush or whoever said, and then just colonize with a jar. Let your tray colonize, and then case it with the verm.

Those jars will stay good for a couple months as well if you put them in the fridge upside down. Once I get up and running, I only plan on buying spores once if I can unless I decie to getmore strains down the road. I'm gonna colonize 4-5 quart jars to start, and then use one of those to colonize about 10 more and save them in my fridge. Each time I use some, I'll take one more and colonize a few more jars. I'm gonna use a rubber main container as my FC which will take prolly 3-4 quart jars to colonize the whole thing. Should produce tons of mushies!!
 
Thundercat

Thundercat

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Come to think about it, you could prolly do this stuff this week, and your trays should prolly be colonized when you got back from Thanksgiving.
 
jollygreengiant8

jollygreengiant8

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that sounds awesome man!
if you buy spores maybe we could swap some prints or something..or i can just send you a print if you dont want to buy any..spreadin' the love, you know:mrgreen:
i think itd be cool to have tubs of different mushies

you got to put up a journal for your mushies if you do a grow
take it easy man:peace:
 
jollygreengiant8

jollygreengiant8

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Thundercat said:
Come to think about it, you could prolly do this stuff this week, and your trays should prolly be colonized when you got back from Thanksgiving.
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i just had that same thought:mrgreen:
i might try to get on it tonight and see what i can get done..
i need to clean the kitchen before anything, that fucker is nasty!!
 
Thundercat

Thundercat

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lol, so is my kitchen. I can't wait to get up and running, when the time comes, for spores and such, we'll talk, but not on here lol. I'm seriously considering getting this kit MES DELUXE KIT Bio Sphere Mushroom / Shroom Growing Chamber, the 450 one, it comes with an incubator, and that environment pump. I know its kinda expensive, but it seems to be every thing, and shit its gaurenteed. We'll see maybe I'll DIY, or I was also thinking about getting another one of the bag kits I used before. It was so easy, I didn't have to preasure cook anything, it was fast and simple, and almost foul proof.

I don't know, there are so many options. The enviroment pump from that kit seems really sweet, seems like it could really boost production. The site says 1/2 lb every few weeks from each chamber. That site also has tons of differant spores too.
 
jollygreengiant8

jollygreengiant8

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hey kush..the link doesnt work, can you try sending it again?

i PCed 2 qts of wbs last night..will innoculate tonight
moved the aquarium heater out of the FC since ive got a little heater blowing onto the glass of the FC and keeps the temp 70-75
i put the heater in the incubator where i had a tiny aquarium heater that wasnt doing anything for the temp...since the big heater has been put in, temp is 82
 
Kushcrosser

Kushcrosser

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hmmmmmm....it works when I click on it! Try this again...Rez-Effect - Shroomtalk
If it doesnt work, go to Shroomtalk.com and click on the search bar and type in rez-effect. It was posted by mockeylock, and if you want some kick ass info.....CHECK IT OUT!!!!
 
jollygreengiant8

jollygreengiant8

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dammit! it says it cant connect to the server for shroomtalk..even tried in a different browser and got the same thing..i dunno man
could you copy&paste some of the good stuff?
 
Kushcrosser

Kushcrosser

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Here you go, this is from mockeylock

Hey, y'all!

I know I'm new here and thanks for having me...I am rather experienced, however, and definately know a thing or two about cultivation....

I've noticed just poking around, that most folks on this site are going with the PF tek. That's fine and all...it helps let you see the life cycle of cubes and gives you a good idea of how all this works.

But, man alive! Some of you are spending so much time, effort, and money setting up automated chambers with bubblers, humidity gauges, the whole works. With little to show for your efforts....

So I just wanted to give some ideas how to simplify and reap the benefits, so first off here's the Rez-Effect Tek which gives bulk-type results without pasteurization or anything besides wbs and vermiculite!

First off, get to know whole grains...so easy! They colonize faster since you can shake the qt. jars and you end up with way more spawn/substrate. This grow used 4 qts...this is 3 of 'em.



Next you simply mix into a tupperware container (this is a 20qt'er) with about equal parts moistened vermiculite...





Next, cover with foil and incubate (we're talking about 3 days) until totally colonized.







Now I've messed with a lot of casing mixtures. I've crushed Oyster shells with a hammer, lime, peat moss, coir, you name it.

You know what I use now? Vermiculite.

So case with whatever you like, recover, and let colonize a bit until you're ready to fruit. This time around it took forever to pin and the casing was 95% colonized. Bad news? Heh...just watch!



















Just fanned a few times a day. This strain was S. American, btw....
 
jollygreengiant8

jollygreengiant8

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sweet..thanks kush, cant view pics but dont really need them anyway
im going to get this going tonight..and when i get back from thanksgiving hopefully we can start some pins or something
 
Thundercat

Thundercat

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Thats what I'm talking about Kush!! So would you say forget about the environment pump, just get the rubbermaid, mist them and fan a couple times a day?

All you used for the larger tub was the 4 colonized jars and vermiculite? Then cased with verm, once the tub was colonized? Were your jars made with WBS and verm, or something else?

I need to get going on this, cus I think my ganja grow is gonna have to hold off till right after christmas, and if I went and got a PC, and the WBS all I would need is spores. I just bought verm for the soil I was gonna mix for my buds. hmmm....
 
Kushcrosser

Kushcrosser

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Thundercat said:
Thats what I'm talking about Kush!! So would you say forget about the environment pump, just get the rubbermaid, mist them and fan a couple times a day?

All you used for the larger tub was the 4 colonized jars and vermiculite? Then cased with verm, once the tub was colonized? Were your jars made with WBS and verm, or something else?

I need to get going on this, cus I think my ganja grow is gonna have to hold off till right after christmas, and if I went and got a PC, and the WBS all I would need is spores. I just bought verm for the soil I was gonna mix for my buds. hmmm....
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Yep...just WBS and verm!! Before I PC the WBS, I add about 2Tbls of dry verm to each jar to absorb any excess water. I had a problem with water gettin into the jars while PC'n, thats why I started addin a little verm. BTW, if you need any prints I would be happy to send you a couple. If you dont trust me, ask any1 on shroomtalk. Or just look at all of my posts!(Kushcrosser) I have been a longtime member, and have hooked up alot of ppl up with spores.
 
jollygreengiant8

jollygreengiant8

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fuck i wish i could see those pics!

innoculated the 2qt jars, placed them into incubator..temp 82
syringe only had 3 ccs of solution left, so each was hit with about 1.5cc.
hopefully thats enough spores to get myc going and wont take too long to colonize
 
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