Buds not progressing

Kompi

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Hi this is my first grow where I actaually payed attention to the plants and I just don’t know why the buds aren’t getting any bigger I think they’re probably 4 weeks into flower and not much growth is happening. SPECS day temp 78-82 night temp is about 72-75 ph water is 6.3 all organic nutrients plent of air circulation 650watt light humidity 42-45%
 

Kompi

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Hi this is my first grow where I actaually payed attention to the plants and I just don’t know why the buds aren’t getting any bigger I think they’re probably 4 weeks into flower and not much growth is happening. SPECS day temp 78-82 night temp is about 72-75 ph water is 6.3 all organic nutrients plent of air circulation 650watt light humidity 42-45%
 

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Failmore

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It looks like either you had serious issues or you went in with some scissors and went nuts in there.

All plants grow different from seed. Some if yours look close to what I would call week 4 and some look like they are week 2.

The point is...dont count weeks. Just hurts your head. Just let the plant do its thing and it is done when it is done.

You got a long long long way to go yet and the buds will fatten up over time.

Be patient, smoke a blunt.
 

GroBud

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If you can look down on your plants as see all the way through your canopy you've taken off too much. Fan leaves are their solar panels tuck before cut. Good idea to remove the lower portion for bug and mold mildew protection but not to that extent for defoliation. The white specks and drooping I agree check for bugs. Back of leaves near the veins little black dots may need a microscope or jeweler's loop.

Week 4 you have like 9 weeks left relax
 
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Kompi

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It looks like either you had serious issues or you went in with some scissors and went nuts in there.

All plants grow different from seed. Some if yours look close to what I would call week 4 and some look like they are week 2.

The point is...dont count weeks. Just hurts your head. Just let the plant do its thing and it is done when it is done.

You got a long long long way to go yet and the buds will fatten up over time.

Be patient, smoke a blunt.
Yea I had a bad thrip and fungus gnat infestation but I got rid of the fungus gnats just dealing with residual thrips but aren’t much left
 

Kompi

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If you can look down on your plants as see all the way through your canopy you've taken off too much. Fan leaves are their solar panels tuck before cut. Good idea to remove the lower portion for bug and mold mildew protection but not to that extent for defoliation. The white specks and drooping I agree check for bugs. Back of leaves near the veins little black dots may need a microscope or jeweler's loop.

Week 4 you have like 9 weeks left relax
I know I have a ton of time left just got a lil worried didn’t want to get rid of the fan leaves but they were not lookin to good
 

GroBud

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26 watts a square ft if you have a bit of lower larf or light airy buds that's why. Need at least 750 watts in a 5x5. Something to look into if you're not happy with the final weight. 4 watts a sqft may not seem like much, but with the leds claiming 2.5 grams a watt you're losing out on about 8 grams a sqft or 200 grams for 25sqft. Personally I like 40 to 45 watts a sqft from high end leds
 
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GroBud

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I never advise removing fan leaves because they don't look good. If you're going through a deficiency it's because you're lacking nutrients and the plants pulling from those leaves. If you remove that leaf the plants using it'll just start pulling it from somewhere else if the deficiency isn't corrected.

Where the leaves dark green and clawing, didn't know if I see that going on in one of the pics which would be a toxicity and would need to be flushed
 

Kompi

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26 watts a square ft if you have a bit of lower larf or light airy buds that's why. Need at least 750 watts in a 5x5. Something to look into if you're not happy with the final weight. 4 watts a sqft may not seem like much, but with the leds claiming 2.5 grams a watt you're losing out on about 8 grams a sqft or 200 grams for 25sqft. Personally I like 40 to 45 watts a sqft from high end leds
So 650 is enough? I saw Mr canucks use it so I bought it lol dang
 

Kompi

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Next grow, I'd skip the defoliation completely. Those extra leaves will carry a plant when something goes wrong. What type of soil/nutrients are you using? Feeding schedule?
I use tiger bloom the package says once a week but I do every other week I use organic nutrients like worm castings kelp bone meal bat guanno and bio live
 

GroBud

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So 650 is enough? I saw Mr canucks use it so I bought it lol dang
Canuck uses any light that's sponsored, he also has incredible genetics to work with. Plus he's been growing for who knows how long. 5x5=25 650÷ 25=26 watts a sqft.

Also not great to mix organics and liquid they effect the soil differently and are treated differently. Organics don't technically feed the plants. They feed microorganisms ( mycorrhizae) around the root zone ( rhizosphere ) they will ph soil for them to thrive. Liquid nutrients are readily available and you don't cater to the micro biology so you have to ph water to allow for the consumption of nutrients. Phing water with organics can mess everything up. I use fox farms happy frog and ocean forest with dry amendments. My water is non phed tap from the water hose using a boogie blue filter. I used to think I couldn't use my tap since it was 7 to 800ppms so I bought a expensive under the sink r/o machine. These plants have been watered for 2 months using 9.3
 

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xtsho

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I use tiger bloom the package says once a week but I do every other week I use organic nutrients like worm castings kelp bone meal bat guanno and bio live
Cut back on the feeding.

In your first post you said you use all organic nutrients. Tiger Bloom isn't organic.
 

xtsho

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Canuck uses any light that's sponsored, he also has incredible genetics to work with. Plus he's been growing for who knows how long. 5x5=25 650÷ 25=26 watts a sqft.
canuck sucks and his plants look like crap. There is absolutely nothing special about anything he does or what he grows. Half the people on this site can grow better. I've been growing weed since before that clown was born as have many others who do nothing but laugh as newer growers act like he's some sort of growing guru. He's a damn youtube personality that people that don't know any better go to to get the crappy growing advice he offers.

canuck is the Rachael Ray of growing weed. Just like Rachael Ray can't cook but is popular the same can be said about canuck. Just because he has followers doesn't mean anything. It just means that a bunch of novice growers watch his cheesy videos.
 

GroBud

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I guess canuck grows some pretty ass weed imo. Plus the effort he puts into his videos makes them enjoyable to watch. However I just enjoy watching weed grow and talking about growing weed and listening to others talk about growing weed lol. I watch pigeons 420, greengobblin, mr. Grows it, the cannabis lifestyles TV podcast and all the other growers on youtube I may check out.

I will say from time to time canuck does have some plants that look questionable lol but really if you say you grow 100% healthy plants from seed to harvest everytime you're lying. You can have 4 treat them all the same and 1 will be a douchebag.

Besides that canuck runs like 3 or 4 different grows at once. I run 2 tents a closet and outdoors I'll be the first to say they don't get the love they used to in one tent 2 to 4 plants.
 
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Syntax747

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To the OP - Next time, if your plants are sick don't flip to flower, wait until the plant is healthy enough to do so. I'll be honest, your plants look like sad lil bitches...

Whatever you're going to do, do it quickly.. time is ticking..
 
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