Afganistan Collapse

[Wattzzup]

But is it peaceable rape?

He thinks they’re peaceful but they rape people. Then he says he doesn’t support. Sounds like Trump to me.

 

[CatHedral]

In fairness, they rape in the USA too, but also in fairness I wouldn't call Americans "peaceful people".

It does hurt to be judged by the standards of the tards.

 

[CatHedral]

He thinks they’re peaceful but they rape people. Then he says he doesn’t support. Sounds like Trump to me.

No; this particular fever predates (we do not peak his name)
I doubt he even notices when his desires align with the flying monkeys.

 

[PJ Diaz]

Attempt at self-referent humor, my favorite kind.

I'm always happy to oblige those who think that they are superior with a bit of common humor.

 

[CatHedral]

I'm always happy to oblige those who think that they are superior with a bit of common humor.

Oh nice put-down.

 

[PJ Diaz]

Oh nice put-down.

Oh I love praise from superior folks too, it makes me feel smart. Thank you, and keep writing poems!

 

[CatHedral]

Oh I love praise from superior folks too, it makes me feel smart. Thank you, and keep writing poems!

It does not take a
word-surfeit to pwn the tards.
Favored form: haiku.

 

[Rob Roy]

You did speak about differential maturity among 12 year olds. That falls solidly within the boundaries of rape.

That's not true. What falls in the boundaries of rape is violating consent.

Are you saying that all people attain the wherewithal to consent at the exact same age?

Are you saying that you oppose violations of consent sometimes and you also are for violations of consent sometimes ? It sounds like you might be, since you think a forcible hierarchy is a good thing.

Next you're going to tell me you're okay with forcibly injecting a young person, if the hierarchy demands it. Does it hurt to hold two different opinions about consent at the same time ?

 

[Wattzzup]

That's not true. What falls in the boundaries of rape is violating consent.

Are you saying that all people attain the wherewithal to consent at the exact same age?

Are you saying that you oppose violations of consent sometimes and you also are for violations of consent sometimes ? It sounds like you might be, since you think a forcible hierarchy is a good thing.

Next you're going to tell me you're okay with forcibly injecting a young person, if the hierarchy demands it. Does it hurt to hold two different opinions about consent at the same time ?

So as long as the 12 year old gives consent? Why are we back here again Rob?

 

[xtsho]

Timeline: U.S. War in Afghanistan

The Taliban surged back to power two decades after U.S.-led forces toppled their regime in what led to the United States’ longest war.

www.cfr.org

 

[mooray]

He wants five years old's to be free to make their own informed decisions.

 

[CatHedral]

That's not true. What falls in the boundaries of rape is violating consent.

Are you saying that all people attain the wherewithal to consent at the exact same age?

Are you saying that you oppose violations of consent sometimes and you also are for violations of consent sometimes ? It sounds like you might be, since you think a forcible hierarchy is a good thing.

Next you're going to tell me you're okay with forcibly injecting a young person, if the hierarchy demands it. Does it hurt to hold two different opinions about consent at the same time ?

I will leave the forcible injecting to you. Division of labor.

 

[PJ Diaz]

That's not true. What falls in the boundaries of rape is violating consent.

Are you saying that all people attain the wherewithal to consent at the exact same age?

Are you saying that you oppose violations of consent sometimes and you also are for violations of consent sometimes ? It sounds like you might be, since you think a forcible hierarchy is a good thing.

Next you're going to tell me you're okay with forcibly injecting a young person, if the hierarchy demands it. Does it hurt to hold two different opinions about consent at the same time ?

I think the crux at which your point falls apart is in the fact that 12-year old's do not have the wisdom, knowledge or experience to give consent in the first place. Just like if you get someone really drunk, they no longer have the capacity to give consent, and if you fuck them while they are in that state it's rape because you did not get actual consent, even if the other party mumbled "ok"..

 

[Rob Roy]

I think the crux at which your point falls apart is in the fact that 12-year old's do not have the wisdom, knowledge or experience to give consent in the first place. Just like if you get someone really drunk, they no longer have the capacity to give consent, and if you fuck them while they are in that state it's rape because you did not get actual consent, even if the other party mumbled "ok"..

My point was always those who have the wherewithal to consent, can. Those who do not, can't.

My other point was not all people arrive at that point at the exact same age.

Which of my points do you disagree with and why?


Regarding how that relates to Afghanistan... I'm uncomfortable and see it as wrong when Afghani men trade in human flesh, in particular. people much younger than them, who have no real opportunity and/or ability to refuse. Coincidentally that's how all governments gain their "subjects", you don't have any real choice and your consent is assumed, even when it isn't.

 

[Rob Roy]

He wants five years old's to be free to make their own informed decisions.

Informed decision eh?

Says the guy that probably would put a little kid in a mask and send him off to kindergarten for indoctrination, while holding the kids parents house ransom to pay for the brain washing.

 

[Rob Roy]

So as long as the 12 year old gives consent? Why are we back here again Rob?

I'm not responsible for your constant infatuation with it. Try to think about baseball cards or something.

 

[PJ Diaz]

My point was always those who have the wherewithal to consent, can. Those who do not, can't.

My other point was not all people arrive at that point at the exact same age.

Which of my points do you disagree with and why?

I disagree that consent requires wherewithal.

I agree to the second point, but also would add that there are certain metrics which must be met to meet the threshold of having the ability to give consent in the first place, and one of those metrics would be physical and emotional maturity, which a 12-year old does not have.

 

[Rob Roy]

I disagree that consent requires wherewithal.

I agree to the second point, but also would add that there are certain metrics which must be met to meet the threshold of having the ability to give consent in the first place, and one of those metrics would be physical and emotional maturity, which a 12-year old does not have.

Consent doesn't require wherewithal to consent ? So a person in a coma who doesn't say "no" is open game ? Interesting.

Not all people arrive at the physical point of maturity or the mental point of maturity at the same time. Sounds like we agree on that. Is there a magical age limit that NO person has ever crossed and been capable of consenting when the majority of people the same age as them have not ?
Your argument insinuates there is. What is that magical age ?

For instance, there are no 17 year olds capable of making a decision that a law says all persons making that decision MUST be at least 18 ?

 

[Rob Roy]

He thinks they’re peaceful but they rape people. Then he says he doesn’t support. Sounds like Trump to me.

You need to stop listening to those voices in your head. They're not real.

 

[Rob Roy]

But is it peaceable rape?

Only if the forcible hierarchy determines it is. Flounder, not just a fish.