Heat Stressed + N Toxicity = Early Harvest?

KrAzY Buds

KrAzY Buds

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Unidentified Strain. Smells like Lemon Zkittles which has a 7-8 week flowering time. Im currently on week 10 with extreme temps 90-100 all day, indoor. The dehumidifier inside is definitely adding 10-15 degrees but its crucial for the RH. Maintained at 40-45. Annnd they definitely have N toxicity. Ive been using PH water and added some extra soil to top the bucket hoping it could filter out some nutes a little better.

Shes still got lots of white hairs, trichromes are clear. They are NOT READY! I am concerned for its current conditions though and for weeks other than some added weight, it doesnt look like theyve been maturing but rather maintaining a sorta veg state? Id like to play this out but...

So far no signs of mold or bud rot. Ive got floor and light fans ontop of an inline to keep airflow in there.

What kinda observations are ya making here growmies? Thanks.
 

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Billy the Mountain

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KrAzY Buds said:
Unidentified Strain. Smells like Lemon Zkittles which has a 7-8 week flowering time. Im currently on week 10 with extreme temps 90-100 all day, indoor. The dehumidifier inside is definitely adding 10-15 degrees but its crucial for the RH. Maintained at 40-45. Annnd they definitely have N toxicity. Ive been using PH water and added some extra soil to top the bucket hoping it could filter out some nutes a little better.

Shes still got lots of white hairs, trichromes are clear. They are NOT READY! I am concerned for its current conditions though and for weeks other than some added weight, it doesnt look like theyve been maturing but rather maintaining a sorta veg state? Id like to play this out but...

So far no signs of mold or bud rot. Ive got floor and light fans ontop of an inline to keep airflow in there.

What kinda observations are ya making here growmies? Thanks.
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Highly unlikely
 
Killaki

Killaki

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KrAzY Buds said:
Unidentified Strain. Smells like Lemon Zkittles which has a 7-8 week flowering time. Im currently on week 10 with extreme temps 90-100 all day, indoor. The dehumidifier inside is definitely adding 10-15 degrees but its crucial for the RH. Maintained at 40-45. Annnd they definitely have N toxicity. Ive been using PH water and added some extra soil to top the bucket hoping it could filter out some nutes a little better.

Shes still got lots of white hairs, trichromes are clear. They are NOT READY! I am concerned for its current conditions though and for weeks other than some added weight, it doesnt look like theyve been maturing but rather maintaining a sorta veg state? Id like to play this out but...

So far no signs of mold or bud rot. Ive got floor and light fans ontop of an inline to keep airflow in there.

What kinda observations are ya making here growmies? Thanks.
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I wouldn't chop that. It has plenty of leaves left to ride it out. Try to do some damage control and let her grow. You'd be surprised how much punishment a plant can withstand but in my experience plants with problems take longer to reach harvest not earlier. Early chop with be a major mistake if you plan on smoking that.
**Definitely late stage N toxicity.
 
KrAzY Buds

KrAzY Buds

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Killaki said:
I wouldn't chop that. It has plenty of leaves left to ride it out. Try to do some damage control and let her grow. You'd be surprised how much punishment a plant can withstand but in my experience plants with problems take longer to reach harvest not earlier. Early chop with be a major mistake if you plan on smoking that.
**Definitely late stage N toxicity.
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Ya thats pretty much what ive been doing. Just trying to let her do her thing. I dont want to chop her but I wanted to ask to community to make sure I wouldnt ruin what Ive got already. I appreciate the reply Killaki

The humidity goes up a bit when it overheats so theres fluctuation there and not always in that 40-45 RH range. However ill set the dehu for 50 instead of the 40 its set at now. Thank you for the advice.
 
KrAzY Buds

KrAzY Buds

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Billy the Mountain said:
Sorry, I missed the "on week 10" in your post.

Week 10 from 12/12 I presume?

As above, trade some heat for humidity. I routinely have 65% RH until chop day without issue
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Week 10 flowering, yes.
I have read to slowly decrease humidity down to 35 in the last few weeks. Ive also read others like you saying theyve let it be that high with no issues sooo...
Im really trying to learn from reading as much as I can and researching different growers and journals, but im finding personal experience as I go along to be the best teacher. Everything else i use as a guide and just experiment to see what produces results.
 
Billy the Mountain

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Heat is your biggest issue.
Don't fear humidity, just maintain good air flow and exchange
The buds look far younger than their 10 week age, likely from the heat.
 
OldMedUser

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You need to rig your dehuey so that it's outside your grow space and you're piping the air that passes thru it gets piped in and the heat stays out. It's like putting a window A/C unit in your grow space and expecting cooler temps when the A/C motor is adding heat to the room so you can't get it cooler in there.

3-in-1 portable A/C in dehuey mode with the exhaust pipe going outside works well if in the room.

:peace:
 
Billytheluther

Billytheluther

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KrAzY Buds said:
Unidentified Strain. Smells like Lemon Zkittles which has a 7-8 week flowering time. Im currently on week 10 with extreme temps 90-100 all day, indoor. The dehumidifier inside is definitely adding 10-15 degrees but its crucial for the RH. Maintained at 40-45. Annnd they definitely have N toxicity. Ive been using PH water and added some extra soil to top the bucket hoping it could filter out some nutes a little better.

Shes still got lots of white hairs, trichromes are clear. They are NOT READY! I am concerned for its current conditions though and for weeks other than some added weight, it doesnt look like theyve been maturing but rather maintaining a sorta veg state? Id like to play this out but...

So far no signs of mold or bud rot. Ive got floor and light fans ontop of an inline to keep airflow in there.

What kinda observations are ya making here growmies? Thanks.
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Un identified is key… its not lemon skittles then…it may be more of a sativa that just needs more time…
If so you are lucky give it another 3 weeks. And see what happens.
try and give it some bloom nurtients to finish off they look hungry
 
KrAzY Buds

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Billytheluther said:
Un identified is key… its not lemon skittles then…it may be more of a sativa that just needs more time…
If so you are lucky give it another 3 weeks. And see what happens.
try and give it some bloom nurtients to finish off they look hungry
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I have been giving them an 0-0.7-0.7 bloom. They are putting on weight but theyve relatively looked the same around the outside the whole time, that somewhat unhealthy and less than stellar look.

I just went in the tent. 100 degrees. Lower nodes are totally stretched as well as the top of the main cola. This kind of stretching is why im concerned with further development and what to expect.

What Im asking is if that stretching will prevent the rest from maturing properly??
 
KrAzY Buds

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OldMedUser said:
You need to rig your dehuey so that it's outside your grow space and you're piping the air that passes thru it gets piped in and the heat stays out. It's like putting a window A/C unit in your grow space and expecting cooler temps when the A/C motor is adding heat to the room so you can't get it cooler in there.

3-in-1 portable A/C in dehuey mode with the exhaust pipe going outside works well if in the room.

:peace:
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I thought the garage would be adequate for my setup, as any alternative wouldnt fit my tent. Ive learned tho that temps are way too hot to control in there so, ive chalked the whole first grow as a learning experience so theres no disappointment here.
Ive been upgrading the setup as Ive went along with new tools and methods to deal. At this point i cant wait to cull and restart more dialed in than before. The first change being a new environment, fully temp and RH controlled. I will look into that 3-1 appliance. I think thatll do well. Thanks bud.
 
Autodoctor

Autodoctor

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KrAzY Buds said:
I like this chart, but I dont know what the colors mean. Could u explain please?
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Look at what temps your running on the left follow over to the right and find the green box and look up and that’s what your humidity should be. Says rh. But u wanna shoot for the green box
 
Medicated Bonsai

Medicated Bonsai

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Those girls look so sad...are you sure they're "stretching" like you stated above? Droopy and super thin leafs, discoloration/burnt tips..are you sure she isn't locked out due to nutrient/PH issues or possibly another issue coming from within the soil rather than the environment? The temps are a problem but it looks like theres a lot going on there.
 
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