Commercial Grow

[Autodoctor]

Thank you for the two links and for everyones perspectives.

I have certainly considered leasing a building but I'm not terribly trusting of a landlord who might boot me out at the end of a lease while I have a viable crop and was anticipating signing a new lease or any other scenario with a landlord.

Also, the cost to retrofit seems a poor investment on a leased building. Plus retrofitting sucks in general. Also, it would seem a newly built structure would have less risk of pest/mold issues?

Get 5 year lease. Business leases aren’t the same as house leases. Long as paying the rent you ain’t going anywhere’s. Been in the business game For a long time

 

[Lordhooha]

@DoubleAtotheRON is in Oklahoma and grows commercially as well in your over saturated market. I’m sure he can convince you not to spend your investors money

I'm Oklahoma too lol

 

[Lordhooha]

Formulating a business plan for commercial indoor cultivation. Looking to build a wood framed, metal sided facility with spray-in insulation to provide insulation and rigidity.

What are concerns with this type of structure for this purpose? Anyone with experience? A red iron structure was out preference but metal prices are prohibitive. Thoughts

Metal is cheaper than wood atm

 

[Lordhooha]

You're a little late to the game. What are you going to do with the weed you grow? Do you already have buyers? If things go anything like they did here in Oregon it's going to be a race to the bottom price wise which is why many growers here called it quits.

Also you should already know what you need to do or be in direct consultation with someone that does. You're asking some questions that you should already have the answers to.

I wouldn't think about investing in a commercial grow at this stage of the game. The gold rush is over. But good luck.


"Oklahoma's market is showing signs of saturation, a fact that investors and entrepreneurs should study before deciding if the state is worth pursuing."

A Saturated Market Searching for Solutions
Like many in Oklahoma's market, Gurley feels that the state is saturated. Noting the 10,000 licensed operators, he said patient-to-store averages hover around 200 as of late.

"Oklahoma opened the door for this scenario by making the barriers to entry so minimal that almost anyone with a few thousand dollars could buy any type of license: grower, processor or dispensary," Gurley said. He added that the current situation makes it unsustainable for many shops to survive.

Oklahoma's Cannabis Market: What Investors, Entrepreneurs Need To Know

Oklahoma’s medical cannabis market is one of the more unique. With lax regulations and a simple pathway to licensing, the state created a market with over 10,000 actively licensed dispensaries, growers, and processors for a state with approximately 644,000 registered patients as of 2019-2020.

www.benzinga.com

The rush is over atm once texas opens up the price is setup to skyrocket plus I already have a building setup and ready including an in house dispensary.

 

[xtsho]

The rush is over atm once texas opens up the price is setup to skyrocket plus I already have a building setup and ready including an in house dispensary.

I meant the goldrush is over in the states that have already legalized. You have to be ready and first in line. There are going to be opportunities in new states that legalize but trying to start a commercial grow in a legal state with an already saturated market is not really a good idea unless you have connections and a for sure outlet for the product. Anyone can grow weed. But in these legal states you're not just going to be able to grow a bunch of weed and then just start selling to dispensaries. But it sounds like you're ready to get in from the git go.

I'm pretty sure that much of the weed grown in Oklahoma is going to the black market. They haven't gotten their seed to sale tracking system in place yet. Once they do I expect to see lots of growers shut down operations as everything they grow will have to be accounted for. The way it is now there is no way to know where that marijuana is going.

“We are working a lot of investigations statewide on growers illegally shipping out of state and a few stores selling product brought in from out of state,” said Oklahoma Bureau of Narcotics spokesman Mark Woodward. “Black market growers are thriving in Oklahoma. Regarding seed-to-sale, tracking would be helpful in some of our investigations, but it hasn’t hampered our ability to build solid cases on those we’ve already shut down.”

Seed-to-Sale Delays Sow Confusion In Medical Marijuana Market - Oklahoma Watch

The delays and costs associated with Oklahoma’s seed-to-sale tracking system for medical marijuana are jeopardizing patient safety and causing more police crackdowns on illegal grow operations.

oklahomawatch.org

 

[Lordhooha]

I meant the goldrush is over in the states that have already legalized. You have to be ready and first in line. There are going to be opportunities in new states that legalize but trying to start a commercial grow in a legal state with an already saturated market is not really a good idea unless you have connections and a for sure outlet for the product. Anyone can grow weed. But in these legal states you're not just going to be able to grow a bunch of weed and then just start selling to dispensaries. But it sounds like you're ready to get in from the git go.

I'm pretty sure that much of the weed grown in Oklahoma is going to the black market. They haven't gotten their seed to sale tracking system in place yet. Once they do I expect to see lots of growers shut down operations as everything they grow will have to be accounted for. The way it is now there is no way to know where that marijuana is going.

“We are working a lot of investigations statewide on growers illegally shipping out of state and a few stores selling product brought in from out of state,” said Oklahoma Bureau of Narcotics spokesman Mark Woodward. “Black market growers are thriving in Oklahoma. Regarding seed-to-sale, tracking would be helpful in some of our investigations, but it hasn’t hampered our ability to build solid cases on those we’ve already shut down.”

Seed-to-Sale Delays Sow Confusion In Medical Marijuana Market - Oklahoma Watch

The delays and costs associated with Oklahoma’s seed-to-sale tracking system for medical marijuana are jeopardizing patient safety and causing more police crackdowns on illegal grow operations.

oklahomawatch.org

From omma theyve said the seed to sale will most likely get thrown out. Omma already has plenty of reporting if they would utilize it. The issue with most is the growers are setting up shop and no dispensary of their own and either a: sell via a broker at ridiculously low prices or process it. Those that have dispensaries with their grow and processing license are the ones that will survive Then the market it explode in Oklahoma again.

 

[Laythy]

im a builder as well as a commercial grower in michigan. i built my building up from literally just a shell and did all the work myself. i used wood because bac then it was cheaper than metal but im an exception because i was able to get away with wood.

commercial code requires metal framing so i would use that if i was you. green board if fine but you be better off using 5/8 fire rated drywall and have it mudded properly and paint it with acrylic paint. thats what i used on my walls and i can literally hose them down with water without issue and the paint is mold resistant.

i did all electricals external incase i ever need to upgrade or repair anything. it adds more space for insects to hide but if you're careful from the beginning you should never have an issue with that. i know i dont.

plan to have drainage into your flooring that way its easy to wash the room in between crops as well. hope that helps