Clones slowly lose leaves

helpme377

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I've got a cloning problem. My clones always root but they slowly lose leaves. I need healthy clones for my SOG op and they need improvement.
Clonebox Conditions
Temp= 80F
Heatmat set to 80F
Light is 19W LED
RH= 65%
Any ideas?
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oill

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Star Dog

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It's a little hot and a bit dry imo I aim 70/75% 24c.
Clones taken from a flowering plant are normally slower to root and grow and ime not the best to flower, I'd clone them again 1st to flower.

Did you take them from a flowering plant for any particular reason?

Eta... Are you feeding them anything?
 
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DrOgkush

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Show us the roots. See how they look once they are exposed. They might be rotting right after or like said above. Your conditions are to dry.
Also any reason your not using the pre set holes in your cubes? I used to do that and realized that’s what was holding my clones back on rooting time. Went from a couple weeks to just a week.
 

helpme377

Member
The clones aren’t from a flowering plant…. They root quickly. 6 or 7 days. They just look bad. I’m giving them no veg time before flowering so the healthier the clones the better the final plant. I’ll try raising the humidity.
 

DrOgkush

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The clones aren’t from a flowering plant…. They root quickly. 6 or 7 days. They just look bad. I’m giving them no veg time before flowering so the healthier the clones the better the final plant. I’ll try raising the humidity.
Yes those clones are. Like close to 10 days flower by the looks.
 

DrOgkush

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Where’s the roots. Take a pic so I can see the health of the roots.
Are you leaving light 24hr?
Are you feeding them?
mare you keeping up with the rh correctly 75%
are you keeping up with the ambient air temp 82 degrees
How moist are you keeping you blocks?

they shouldn look like that with the info givin. Hopefully we can figure it out
 

bk78

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Monster cropped clones will root in the same time as regular, they just need 2-4 weeks after rooting to get back to regular growth. In that time don’t overfeed,overwater, over love.
 

bk78

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The clones aren’t from a flowering plant…. They root quickly. 6 or 7 days. They just look bad. I’m giving them no veg time before flowering so the healthier the clones the better the final plant. I’ll try raising the humidity.
So why are there flowers on them if they aren’t from a flowering plant?
 

helpme377

Member
Where’s the roots. Take a pic so I can see the health of the roots.
Are you leaving light 24hr?
Are you feeding them?
mare you keeping up with the rh correctly 75%
are you keeping up with the ambient air temp 82 degrees
How moist are you keeping you blocks?

they shouldn look like that with the info givin. Hopefully we can figure it out
I give them a light feeding. Between 100-300 PPM(500). I don't control the humidity but I do control the temp with an extraction fan. The light is on 24 HR per day. The blocks are kept damp but not saturated.
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So why are there flowers on them if they aren’t from a flowering plant?
I'm honestly not sure why they have flowers. The mother that they come from has been vegging for several months. I thought they were preflowers. I have two tents. One flowering and a mother tent. The clones were cut from a plant in the mother tent where the light is on 24/7.

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DrOgkush

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Well you have clear as day roots. So you can trans to your next cell if there hardened off.
24hr light should keep them well in veg if photo. But the previous post of photos were cuttings in flower. Not pre flower. So I’m confused a bit too.
Good balanced ph should be all you need until you place them in their next home then focus on a lower ppm around 150-300. So on.
Is this your first time having this issue
 

Thundercat

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I've had preflowers form just like that on an older mother plant that was always in veg for my SOG set up. I think that is also why your clones look like they have been revegged and are growing so branchy and crazy. Personally I would replace that mother plant with a happy healthy fresh plant.

I ran a perpetual SOG set up for 11 years. I kept mothers in a small veg tray and took clones about every 2-3 weeks(I would keep mother plants for 6-9,months usually before replacing with a healthy clone). The clones were allowed to root, and then were put into 6 inch pots of hydroton in the veg tray. They were given another 1-2 weeks to root strongly into those pots and usually grew to about 8 inches tall. I then put them into flower and trimmed off the bottom 1-2 sets of side nodes to encourage upward growth. Typically I'd end up with plants between 24-30 inches tall with one main cola and a couple smaller side branches. I could comfortably flower 45 in a 4x4 flood tray this way and averaged 20g dried per plant with mixed genetics, and closer to 30g per plant monocropping.
 
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