Best Pot Size for 4x4 area?

Hemposapien.

Hemposapien.

Member
High,

Currently I have 2 grow rooms, 1 for veg with 2-TSW 2000's and a cloning station capable of handling 2 trays. The other room will have 4- FC 4800's.

For pot sizes my plan is to either have:
1.5 gal plastic pots for veg and transplant to 5 gal plastic pots for flower (4-6 plants per 4'x4' flower footprint)
or
2.5 gal plastic pots for veg and transplant to 7 gal plastic pots for flower (4 plants per 4'x4' flower footprint)

I plan to practice LST, super-cropping, and topping during the veg process. Also, I won't be keeping any mothers instead I'll cut clones before transferring plants to flower. Only running one strain named Terple by In-House Genetics. My veg space is only 25% of my flower room so I will stager the flower room cycles, growing 50% at a time so they're one month apart and that means I'd harvest every month rather than every two months.

I am wondering what y'all would recommend?

Happy Growing!
 
StareCase

StareCase

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If I understood correctly, your intent is:
  • VEG for four (4) weeks and LST the canopy as large as possible
  • Take cuts and get clones going
  • Toss the VEG plants into flower after 4 weeks
  • Harvest the most ready plants from FLOWER
  • Rinse and repeat
 
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hemposapien420

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StareCase said:
If I understood correctly, your intent is:
  • VEG for four (4) weeks and LST the canopy as large as possible
  • Take cuts and get clones going
  • Toss the VEG plants into flower after 4 weeks
  • Harvest the most ready plants from FLOWER
  • Rinse and repeat
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Yeah essentially so it's a perpetual Harvest.
I don't know exactly how long the veg time would be but my thought is if it's four plants per 4x4 light. Then I believe the veg time would be about 6-8 weeks but if it's 6 plants the veg time would 4-5 weeks.
 
StareCase

StareCase

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Looks like you went back to your old username and avatar. The '420' is back.

For a good sized canopy, VEG and spread laterally for the 6 weeks. 4 wide canopy plants in FLOWER would be sufficient cause if you are rolling them over every 6 weeks there is no need to cram a bunch of there and potentially mess up air flow. In that scenario, 5 gallon buckets will do the trick.
 
Hemposapien.

Hemposapien.

Member
StareCase said:
Looks like you went back to your old username and avatar. The '420' is back.

For a good sized canopy, VEG and spread laterally for the 6 weeks. 4 wide canopy plants in FLOWER would be sufficient cause if you are rolling them over every 6 weeks there is no need to cram a bunch of there and potentially mess up air flow. In that scenario, 5 gallon buckets will do the trick.
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Yeah for some reason it automatically logged me into my old account...
So 4- 5 gallon plastic pots for flower and 4- 1.5 gallon plastic pots should work?
Originally I wanted to do big plants but the veg time will take too long.
Thanks for your input
 
StareCase

StareCase

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IMHO ... transplanting to an intermediate 1.5 gallon pot is not needed.

Maybe it's just me but when transplanting a root mass from the intermediate bucket to the 5 gallon bucket, too much of the medium ends up on the floor. To boot, I can be a lazy fuck sometimes so I figure the one transplant to her permanent home is good enough. They go from small green clone pots right to the 5 gallon buckets and I never have to worry about handling - or potentially mishandling - the root mass again.
 
Hemposapien.

Hemposapien.

Member
StareCase said:
IMHO ... transplanting to an intermediate 1.5 gallon pot is not needed.

Maybe it's just me but when transplanting a root mass from the intermediate bucket to the 5 gallon bucket, too much of the medium ends up on the floor. To boot, I can be a lazy fuck sometimes so I figure the one transplant to her permanent home is good enough. They go from small green clone pots right to the 5 gallon buckets and I never have to worry about handling - or potentially mishandling - the root mass again.
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Good idea, makes things a bit simpler.
Less transplanting is always good and as long as it's only 4 plants per FC 4800 that should work for my Vegroom. 16 plants in flower/16 plants in veg.
Thanks for your input!
 
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Funbudd

Member
I’m new to growing and your post fascinates me. I have started to do basically the same thing But with only 4 plants. My closet grow is only 2ft x 4ft but it comfortably fits 4 - 5 gal fabric pots. I am using a total of 320w of 4-ft led grow strips. I have started to clone and repeat growing every 8 to 9 weeks. So Veg for about 9 weeks, clone, flower for 8 weeks. Growing Master Kush. I’m wondering am I keeping them too long in veg? If you are rotating every 4 or 6 weeks aren’t the plants small and thus the yield low? Thanks
 
StareCase

StareCase

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Funbudd said:
... So Veg for about 9 weeks, clone, flower for 8 weeks. Growing Master Kush. I’m wondering am I keeping them too long in veg? ...
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If you want the big babes, that's not too long of a VEG. My typical VEG time is 9 to 10 weeks from when the cuttings have rooted and the dome has been removed. I need that time to spread them outwards through the 2' x 2' nets.
 
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oill

Well-Known Member
Hemposapien. said:
High,

Currently I have 2 grow rooms, 1 for veg with 2-TSW 2000's and a cloning station capable of handling 2 trays. The other room will have 4- FC 4800's.

For pot sizes my plan is to either have:
1.5 gal plastic pots for veg and transplant to 5 gal plastic pots for flower (4-6 plants per 4'x4' flower footprint)
or
2.5 gal plastic pots for veg and transplant to 7 gal plastic pots for flower (4 plants per 4'x4' flower footprint)

I plan to practice LST, super-cropping, and topping during the veg process. Also, I won't be keeping any mothers instead I'll cut clones before transferring plants to flower. Only running one strain named Terple by In-House Genetics. My veg space is only 25% of my flower room so I will stager the flower room cycles, growing 50% at a time so they're one month apart and that means I'd harvest every month rather than every two months.

I am wondering what y'all would recommend?

Happy Growing!
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I would use 4x 25ltr pots for that space
 
Lockedin

Lockedin

Well-Known Member
StareCase said:
IMHO ... transplanting to an intermediate 1.5 gallon pot is not needed.

Maybe it's just me but when transplanting a root mass from the intermediate bucket to the 5 gallon bucket, too much of the medium ends up on the floor. To boot, I can be a lazy fuck sometimes so I figure the one transplant to her permanent home is good enough. They go from small green clone pots right to the 5 gallon buckets and I never have to worry about handling - or potentially mishandling - the root mass again.
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IMHO:

Permeable, biodegradable 1 pint grow bags (I cut the bottoms off and slit the sides*)
--Place 4 bags in each empty 5gal bucket to keep the roots in darkness. (Appx 1 week)
--When roots start to show.........
Remove the plants from the buckets and...
Fill your 5gal buckets / fabric pots / etc as normal
- place plants - bag and all - into the bucket. *Spread the roots a bit if you slit the sides.
 
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MedicinalMyA$$

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Roughly 1 Gallon of soil per ft2 of grow area footprint or 1.5 Gallon per ft2 if a long veg. If your node spacing starts getting crowded you are probably root-bound.
 
Hemposapien.

Hemposapien.

Member
I like StareCase's idea of starting in the same pot I plan to finish in. I'm hoping 5 gallon plastic pots are good enough because they are 5 trade gallons. Which is about 70% of an actual gallon, it's 0.71*5= 3.55 gal pots. Most plastic pots are trade gallon but just thought it was worth mentioning.
Thank you everyone for your input.
 
PadawanWarrior

PadawanWarrior

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Hemposapien. said:
I like StareCase's idea of starting in the same pot I plan to finish in. I'm hoping 5 gallon plastic pots are good enough because they are 5 trade gallons. Which is about 70% of an actual gallon, it's 0.71*5= 3.55 gal pots. Most plastic pots are trade gallon but just thought it was worth mentioning.
Thank you everyone for your input.
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What medium and nutrients do you plan to use?
 
PadawanWarrior

PadawanWarrior

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Hemposapien. said:
So 5 gallon isn't enough? I usually grow in 4 in 3 gal pots for a 3x3 light so I thought 4 in 5 gal pots would do well.
A lot of people recommend big pots with super soil but I've had great success with even 2 gal pots.
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I grow in 15's. I take clippings and put them in my soil in a 1/2 gal. If they root, they get transplanted into 15's. If they don't make it during the clone process. I just take more clippings and try again. I'm lazy. It's actually time for me to transplant again, and I was planning on doing it tonight. The 1/2 gal plants want a new home and more nutes.
 
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