4x4 or a 5x5?

[coreywebster]

Dude, they’re all misrepresent their numbers, some worse then others. It’s like buying a car amplifier. Can’t believe any of the numbers. That’s why you buy the best and advertising will be the most accurate. Their coverage is among the very best in the industry. Legit 5x5 is no problem. Sure you can bitch about the price but it’s made only from the very best materials available. They have the BEST warranty in the business and are so confident about their lights, they give 90 days to test it out and if you didn’t like them you can return them! That’s pretty legit. Not to mention awesome customer service! Try doing that with your cheap lights! You get what you pay for dude! I’ll happily take my top of the line, Rolls Royce of lights, while you can have your cheaply made Chevy.

But there's nothing top of the line about them dude, old tech wrapped up with a blanket of bullshit about perfect spectrum .
All just marketing.

Chilled
HLG
Cutter
lumatek
PLC
Timber
GLA
Fluence
Amare

None of those companies are making up imaginary coverage.
The blackdog phytomax 2 is only 1600umol from 1050w , that's only 1.52umol/joule

I'l stick to my 2.6umol/j LEDs that cost a $ a watt cheers.

 

[Bigdaddy76]

Hlg

Are those cuts from same plant? If so let’s see how finished products compare. Phytomax2? I’ll eventually test other lights side by side with my BD’s and will switch if I find something that works better. Will need to better then 2grams/watt! Price is irrelevant if it performs!

 

[Paulyd!satx]

Yeah everything the same. I have two under an electric sky 180. They look like the hlg. Black dog is the pytomax 2 200, I paid 250$ for it so I couldn’t say no. I like it, just seeing better structure with HLG. I will post results definitely.

 

[RANGERTHEDOG]

Would it be better to buy a 5x5 tent over a 4x4 with a spider farm sf4000. I would think a 5x5 will yield more than a 4x4 with one sf4000 or would it be the same?

I have this light in a 4x4 and I'd say it's perfect for that size of foot print. However and I am going to upgrade to a 5x5 for future grows... I will be attempting to keep the canopy foot print at 4x4 and use the extra space to deal with equipment. As you can see the humidifier steals a full foot of
space out of prime canopy and I'd like to have some more room to move around for watering etc...

 

[coreywebster]

Are those cuts from same plant? If so let’s see how finished products compare. Phytomax2? I’ll eventually test other lights side by side with my BD’s and will switch if I find something that works better. Will need to better then 2grams/watt! Price is irrelevant if it performs!

Can you show us one of your 2gpw grows.

Yeah everything the same. I have two under an electric sky 180. They look like the hlg. Black dog is the pytomax 2 200, I paid 250$ for it so I couldn’t say no. I like it, just seeing better structure with HLG. I will post results definitely.

A side by side would be great to see.

 

[Broclee]

Them not sure if you had original Black Dog or not? They were not very good. The newer (2017-current) are night and day better. Can’t even compare the two.

Explaining this one point to most people is like explaining French to Neanderthals no matter how youbtell them or show them they just don't see the logic just the price

 

[Broclee]

So what your saying is they are con men . Even shitty cheap Chinese LEDs are fairly accurate with there coverage..
But a thousand plus dollar light and they still have to bullshit about coverage. Shame on them.
You say its the buyer who must be stupid though?

Its called baffling them with science and outright lying. They are the scum of the LED world.

Well actually you are quite wrong. They tell you clearly this is maximun coverage and they tell if you want the best bud under their light to use a 5x5 non co2 or 4x4 with co2. It thinks it common knowledge that if you going for max coverage you will sacrifice ppfd to get that coverage hanging heights needed to get said max coverage all of with theybare very upfront about I call and bug them one a month with questions like we this lol and they are very glad to answer everyone with science backed answers

 

[bk78]

Well actually you are quite wrong. They tell you clearly this is maximun coverage and they tell if you want the best bud under their light to use a 5x5 non co2 or 4x4 with co2. It thinks it common knowledge that if you going for max coverage you will sacrifice ppfd to get that coverage hanging heights needed to get said max coverage all of with theybare very upfront about I call and bug them one a month with questions like we this lol and they are very glad to answer everyone with science backed answers

Do you just search for any post regarding your shitty, outdated lights and try and justify your purchase? Either that or you are affiliated with them.

one of the 2

 

[xtsho]

Do you just search for any post regarding your shitty, outdated lights and try and justify your purchase? Either that or you are affiliated with them.

one of the 2

I'm knocking people over to spend $2000 on one of those lights. Best deal ever. Best lights ever. Nothing compares. 60% higher yields by switching to those lights. I read it online. It must be true.

It's not as if I wanted to switch to LED I couldn't put together a better light for 1/3rd of the price. These guys are rocket scientists and their lights are unmatched by anyone. They have super secret lighting technology that makes their lights better. Those lights are worth twice what they charge.

Didn't you get the memo?

 

[Shucks]

I have a sf4000 in a 5x5 tent. I'm thinking about adding 2 sf1000 lights. Anyone have any thoughts on doing that?

 

[perramas]

I have a sf4000 in a 5x5 tent. I'm thinking about adding 2 sf1000 lights. Anyone have any thoughts on doing that?

The SFS4000 is 450w and the sf1000 are 100 watts. That gives you 650w of light for 25 square feet. You want at least 30w of LED per square foot. Those lights will give you only 26w per square foot. Another SFS4000 would give you 36 watts per square foot and a much better harvest.