Can I top an Autoflower?

Paul bones

Active Member
Just got done germinating a Northern Lights Auto flower and a critical purple Autoflower and I'm wondering if I can top them? And if the answer is yes... when where and how? Follows... also any low stress training tips or do I just tie it down like I did the last grow LOL
 

twentyeight.threefive

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Just got done germinating a Northern Lights Auto flower and a critical purple Autoflower and I'm wondering if I can top them? And if the answer is yes... when where and how? Follows... also any low stress training tips or do I just tie it down like I did the last grow LOL
If you have no issues keeping a plant healthy start to finish then I'd say yes you can top it. If you have to ask where and how then I wouldn't recommend trying it on an autoflower.

There's really no point to topping though when LST only can create huge plants.
 

MATTYMATT726

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If you have no issues keeping a plant healthy start to finish then I'd say yes you can top it. If you have to ask where and how then I wouldn't recommend trying it on an autoflower.

There's really no point to topping though when LST only can create huge plants.
Topping is a lazy growers (me) LST.
 

Wet Socks

Member
Topping will mostly prolong the flowering cycle.

If you start your autos in their final pots and don't mess with them much you will usually get the advertised seed to harvest time but if you top and train them this time can be prolonged by up to 5 weeks. So a 10 week auto cycle turns into a 15 week one which kind of defeats the object of them.

On some of my latest autos I have topped, trained and even supercropped some of the strongest looking ones.

Some people top really early but I prefer to let the plant mature a little more and have a larger root base so it can recover more quickly from any stress. I will usually wait until the 5th or 6th node and then once the plant begins flowering bend the tops over for a few days at a time. If you start your autos in their final pot they will recover pretty quickly from any stress. Even when I've supercropped mine they have bounced right back within 12 hours.
 

MATTYMATT726

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Yea but it slows the plants progression which with a photo you dont have a concern of a internal clock ready to expire.

I personally dont top my autos. Just LST. Its simple, effective, and doesnt slow the plants progression.
Well, since you know... FACTUALLY, how long does topping slow down the plant?
 

MATTYMATT726

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Did I strike a nerve or some shit?

You damage the plant it takes energy to heal itself which slows progression. Pretty straightforward
No, not really. I've had a Mephisto that didn't get topped and didn't show pre flowers till 42-43 days. I can have 4 full nodes and 5th coming in or decent size if all is right by 18-21 days. Even if it takes a week to "heal", that's 5 weeks of veg time before it does it's thing. Most people veg photos 4/6 or 8 weeks based on the people that post their grows. 5 weeks on a topped auto doesn't seem all that behind a photo grow. Also, what facts do you have that are standard for photos? How can you say that the point of an auto is to be fatser than photos when there are no set values for photo vegging? Some people only veg 2 weeks and flip their photos. Guess that means all autos must go to flower in 13 days or less by your logic. The fact that you topped and stunted your autos doesn't mean every auto slows down by topping. You just need to get better.
 

twentyeight.threefive

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No, not really. I've had a Mephisto that didn't get topped and didn't show pre flowers till 42-43 days. I can have 4 full nodes and 5th coming in or decent size if all is right by 18-21 days. Even if it takes a week to "heal", that's 5 weeks of veg time before it does it's thing. Most people veg photos 4/6 or 8 weeks based on the people that post their grows. 5 weeks on a topped auto doesn't seem all that behind a photo grow. Also, what facts do you have that are standard for photos? How can you say that the point of an auto is to be fatser than photos when there are no set values for photo vegging? Some people only veg 2 weeks and flip their photos. Guess that means all autos must go to flower in 13 days or less by your logic. The fact that you topped and stunted your autos doesn't mean every auto slows down by topping. You just need to get better.
Dude. You're all over the place. Where did he say the point of autoflowers was to be faster than photos?

Every plant slows down by topping not just autoflowers. Topping is HST as is supercropping. Tying branches down is LST.
 

MATTYMATT726

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Dude. You're all over the place. Where did he say the point of autoflowers was to be faster than photos?

Every plant slows down by topping not just autoflowers. Topping is HST as is supercropping. Tying branches down is LST.
So what, that comment was from a different guy above. Fact still is that he believes every topped plant will be slowed down and it's not true. The auto section here is kiddy time compaired to real Auto community like AFN and auto topping is a VERY normal practice. The only people that get slowing from it are less than steller growers. That's not a fault with autos and topping, but the grower itself. Saying topping will cause slow growth is misleading.
 

twentyeight.threefive

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So what, that comment was from a different guy above. Fact still is that he believes every topped plant will be slowed down and it's not true. The auto section here is kiddy time compaired to real Auto community like AFN and auto topping is a VERY normal practice. The only people that get slowing from it are less than steller growers. That's not a fault with autos and topping, but the grower itself. Saying topping will cause slow growth is misleading.
Saying topping slows growth is fact. Topping is a high stress training technique. If it wasn't it'd be called LST. Any stress will redirect growth of the plant to fixing the stress it encounters.

No one is saying that you can't top autos. Get your panties out of a bunch.
 

Wet Socks

Member
The only people that get slowing from it are less than steller growers. That's not a fault with autos and topping, but the grower itself. Saying topping will cause slow growth is misleading.
That's rubbish. I have a bunch of the same strain autos that all germinated together and some started flowering 2 weeks back and others are only just starting.
 

Wizzlebiz

Well-Known Member
No, not really. I've had a Mephisto that didn't get topped and didn't show pre flowers till 42-43 days. I can have 4 full nodes and 5th coming in or decent size if all is right by 18-21 days. Even if it takes a week to "heal", that's 5 weeks of veg time before it does it's thing. Most people veg photos 4/6 or 8 weeks based on the people that post their grows. 5 weeks on a topped auto doesn't seem all that behind a photo grow. Also, what facts do you have that are standard for photos? How can you say that the point of an auto is to be fatser than photos when there are no set values for photo vegging? Some people only veg 2 weeks and flip their photos. Guess that means all autos must go to flower in 13 days or less by your logic. The fact that you topped and stunted your autos doesn't mean every auto slows down by topping. You just need to get better.
Again. Photo period plants do not have a internal clock to swap them to flower. So topping a Photo period is not a big deal because you can elongate the veg time.

An auto has an internal clock. You only have a small amount of time to veg it. So please do top YOUR autos. I dont mind if you fuck up YOUR plants and cut out precious veg time.

But do not come here and give misguided information simply in an effort to not look wrong.
 

twentyeight.threefive

Well-Known Member
Again. Photo period plants do not have a internal clock to swap them to flower. So topping a Photo period is not a big deal because you can elongate the veg time.

An auto has an internal clock. You only have a small amount of time to veg it. So please do top YOUR autos. I dont mind if you fuck up YOUR plants and cut out precious veg time.

But do not come here and give misguided information simply in an effort to not look wrong.
But he's got those elite Mephisto drops. They don't stress from topping.
 
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