Is this phosphorus deficiency

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Platinum Huckleberry Cookies. Today is the 1st day of week 3 of flower. Growing in 1/3 promix veg&herb, 1/3 coco loco, 1/3 worm castings, with added alfalfa, kelp meal and oyster shell flour, also using gaia green 444 and 284 along with Dr. Earth's 4-6-3(was alternating with 444). In veg I top dressed every 2-3weeks and threw a tea in there.. First day of week 9 I flipped to 12/12 cycle and top dressed 50/50 ratio of 4-6-3 and 284 with EWC.. I noticed this purpling 4days ago before I left for the weekend. So early yesterday morning I started a tea using EWC, seabird guano, kelp, alfalfa, oyster shell flour and a little 284.. after 36hrs I fed the tea.. I'm fr a newb this is my first organic grow as well.. y'all think I did the right thing by giving the flower tea? Should that fix the purpling? The plant was not any shade of purple in veg.. I have accidentally watered until run off a few times so I may have washed some nutrients out if my soil.. all advice criticism is appreciated in advance lol..
 

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Bill_Nye said:
Nice! I hope the tea I just fed won't be too much nutrients then.. I know weeks 3-6 the plant wants a good bit of everything. I'll post how it's responding to the tea in a few days. Thanks for the link!
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I wouldn't worry about the link too much; I think you're fine. Keep it in the back of your mind just in case...
Teas are great but I see it a lot in your post, how many times a week they get a tea? But you're right; good to feed them well weeks 3-6 for sure.
I'm jealous of your genetics; I think she's gonna be colorful.
 
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I wouldn't worry about the link too much; I think you're fine. Keep it in the back of your mind just in case...
Teas are great but I see it a lot in your post, how many times a week they get a tea? But you're right; good to feed them well weeks 3-6 for sure.
I'm jealous of your genetics; I think she's gonna be colorful.
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Yea Ill definitely keep it in mind.. I ordered the seeds from Elev8 Seeds though. Check em out. It's my first run with them though... But I've only fed two teas in 12weeks. One mid way thru veg and this past one. Although idk if just molasses stirred in my water is considered a tea I've done that in between a couple top dressed.. Im scared to death to over feed so even when I top dress I go a lil light lol.. think I should top dress again on week 5 flower or another EWC tea?
 
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Yea Ill definitely keep it in mind.. I ordered the seeds from Elev8 Seeds though. Check em out. It's my first run with them though... But I've only fed two teas in 12weeks. One mid way thru veg and this past one. Although idk if just molasses stirred in my water is considered a tea I've done that in between a couple top dressed.. Im scared to death to over feed so even when I top dress I go a lil light lol.. think I should top dress again on week 5 flower or another EWC tea?
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Two teas in 12 weeks isn't a whole lot. Molasses is good. I found it can pull some nitrogen out of the fans in flower (maybe due to increased metabolism from the carbs but I'm not sure). Molasses tastes like shit after a few weeks of tasting it in your buds so make sure you flush it well or stop a few weeks before you chop. Definitely give them something in week 5. Tea is great; I don't know if they'd have much time to use up the nutes in a top dress at that point, but maybe.
Your plants look good; keep doing what you're doing.
 
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Yea I can totally see where it seems like the Molasses may pull out some nitrogen in flower as I've noticed my fans and the newer growth isn't as dark green as they were in veg. I'm new to all this though. But have 3years of research and studying lol and a couple successful outdoor grows and a couple successful indoor grows using liquid nutes.. Ima definitely tea feed week 5 though.. Thanks for your input and advice! I'll more than likely post an update in a week or so.
 
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Update: day 29 now since I flipped to 12/12.. They will need to be watered tomorrow night. I was thinking about feeding another tea tomorrow with EWC, great white, guano and alfalfa.. good idea or should I wait until next time I need to water?
 

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Bill_Nye said:
Update: day 29 now since I flipped to 12/12.. They will need to be watered tomorrow night. I was thinking about feeding another tea tomorrow with EWC, great white, guano and alfalfa.. good idea or should I wait until next time I need to water?
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Sweet colors. Day 30 is 4 weeks plus. I'm not sure how much you've been feeding but they don't look deficient or overfed. You could say that in the last two pics, the plant could use some more green. Me personally I'd give them a feed if you haven't in 7-10 days, but up to you, they look good.
 
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I have not been feeding much at all. Like I said only two teas in 12weeks but my soil mix took me a good ways.. I feeding another tea later though and today was 10days since last feeding.. I'll post another update in a week or so.. I'm excited to see how these girls turn out. They are packing on triches nicely. But I still feel they have a slight P element going on.. I used recommended amount of down to earth seabird guano in my tea this time and recommended amount of alfalfa meal, I usually go light. We shall see lol.. thanks a lot for your help and kindness!!
 
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The plant with the yellow leaves is getting nitrogen deficient. Her buds really stand out as green against the fans. In the last pic you can see she's real yellow down below. You'll never green her up in flower especially this late.
Your teas aren't supplying enough nitrogen but are probably lacking in other nutrients. Lay off the molasses. You're all organic so no liquid nutes. Blood meal will supply lots of nitrogen 12-0-0 and a fish emulsion will supply nitrogen and phosphorus and maybe a little potassium. They're quick to absorb and are organic and won't mess up your soil microorganisms.
How much time left in flower? If it's a month or more definitely top dress with some bloodmeal and maybe put some fish emulsion to them. If you're a month or less from cutting you might get away with keeping on doing like you've been doing.
 
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Bill_Nye said:
Platinum Huckleberry Cookies. Today is the 1st day of week 3 of flower. Growing in 1/3 promix veg&herb, 1/3 coco loco, 1/3 worm castings, with added alfalfa, kelp meal and oyster shell flour, also using gaia green 444 and 284 along with Dr. Earth's 4-6-3(was alternating with 444). In veg I top dressed every 2-3weeks and threw a tea in there.. First day of week 9 I flipped to 12/12 cycle and top dressed 50/50 ratio of 4-6-3 and 284 with EWC.. I noticed this purpling 4days ago before I left for the weekend. So early yesterday morning I started a tea using EWC, seabird guano, kelp, alfalfa, oyster shell flour and a little 284.. after 36hrs I fed the tea.. I'm fr a newb this is my first organic grow as well.. y'all think I did the right thing by giving the flower tea? Should that fix the purpling? The plant was not any shade of purple in veg.. I have accidentally watered until run off a few times so I may have washed some nutrients out if my soil.. all advice criticism is appreciated in advance lol..
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I would say your overdoing the N
 
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The plant with the yellow leaves is getting nitrogen deficient. Her buds really stand out as green against the fans. In the last pic you can see she's real yellow down below. You'll never green her up in flower especially this late.
Your teas aren't supplying enough nitrogen but are probably lacking in other nutrients. Lay off the molasses. You're all organic so no liquid nutes. Blood meal will supply lots of nitrogen 12-0-0 and a fish emulsion will supply nitrogen and phosphorus and maybe a little potassium. They're quick to absorb and are organic and won't mess up your soil microorganisms.
How much time left in flower? If it's a month or more definitely top dress with some bloodmeal and maybe put some fish emulsion to them. If you're a month or less from cutting you might get away with keeping on doing like you've been doing.
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Yea I was assuming it needed more N.. I have about 5weeks left of flower.. I top dressed the 2 plants that are yellowing, a teaspoon each of blood meal yesterday before watering.. I told myself the last tea that I was done with the molasses, I only used the molasses 5 times the entire grow.. I don't have any fish emulsion unfortunately but can get some tomorrow. Guessing my next watering I should use it? I hope I'm not ruining the outcome lol
 
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If you have 5 weeks left they need to be fed to make you bud mass. There's no way that yellow plant has enough nitrogen in it. The huckleberry looks better, probably needs a bit less feeding. Me personally I'd put some fish emulsion to them next time I put fluids on them. I just put some blood meal on my big outside plants and they greened up real nice in 2 weeks, but they're in veg. Real hard to green them in flower, but you can stop them fading too much. You should be getting a little bit of a flush every time you put fluids on them too. Not too much since you're organic and they're kind of on the edge of being deficient, but a little flush is a good idea.
 
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If you have 5 weeks left they need to be fed to make you bud mass. There's no way that yellow plant has enough nitrogen in it. The huckleberry looks better, probably needs a bit less feeding. Me personally I'd put some fish emulsion to them next time I put fluids on them. I just put some blood meal on my big outside plants and they greened up real nice in 2 weeks, but they're in veg. Real hard to green them in flower, but you can stop them fading too much. You should be getting a little bit of a flush every time you put fluids on them too. Not too much since you're organic and they're kind of on the edge of being deficient, but a little flush is a good idea.
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Well I think the fading has slowed way down since the blood meal. I didn't end up getting the fish emulsion though.. buds are fattening up some now. And when I give a lil bud a pinch, wow do they smell good! Lol.. got a couple pics of my outdoor plants the other day. The tall sativa plant is a Sour diesel and the shorter plant is a Recon OG both bag seeds..
 

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