Buds still small ??

[SidV]

Are you counting the whole time since the 12/12 switch? If you are those be only 3 weeks into flower. (Don't count about 2 weeks, you don't count stretch time, only from first bud start on) just saying ll

 

[Autodoctor]

You’re using HPS 600w.

don’t allow your plants to exceed 3ft tall and you won’t need to lollipop.

if your plants exceed 3ft tall lollipop everything that is beyond 3ft from the canopy.

keep your 600w around 12-18” away as long as your hand isn’t too hot at canopy level then your plants won’t be either.Tks for that info. Didn’t know what height for hps

Save your £20 towards a BLUELAB EC truncheon.

 

[Autodoctor]

Thanks for the reply, I have just looked light meters up and some of them are only £20 would one of those work or would I better investing in a more expensive one?
Thanks again

check your phone apps for them also. I got both to compair and are the same from my readings. I’m sure the more exp are always better but I only grow a few plants for personal use. So I don’t see the point unless your maybe a commercial grower or just have too much money laying around

 

[xtsho]

I am feeding every water once a day with:
Canna A&B 1/4 strenght.
Cannazym 1/4 strength.
Rhizotonic 1/4 strength.
Buddahs tree advanced meta boost 1/2 strength.
Buddahs tree pk 9/18 1/2 strenght

Why are you using 1/4 strength base nutrients but 1/2 strength PK 9/18? Your feeding regimen is completely unbalanced. Too much P/K can do more harm than good.

You don't need that overpriced Buddha Tree stuff.

Anything with claims like this should be avoided. Especially at $90 a liter.

"Expect 40% higher yields from this uniquely potent bloom booster! - created by a world class biochemist."

 

[jondamon]

Why are you using 1/4 strength base nutrients but 1/2 strength PK 9/18? Your feeding regimen is completely unbalanced. Too much P/K can do more harm than good.

You don't need that overpriced Buddha Tree stuff.

Anything with claims like this should be avoided. Especially at $90 a liter.

"Expect 40% higher yields from this uniquely potent bloom booster! - created by a world class biochemist."

Yeah a “world class” biochemist.

wow does that mean we can call ourselves that because we make MKP up as a concentrate prior to delivering it to the plants lol.

 

[Chrisjames47]

Are you counting the whole time since the 12/12 switch? If you are those be only 3 weeks into flower. (Don't count about 2 weeks, you don't count stretch time, only from first bud start on) just saying ll

Thanks for the reply, no I was counting from flip so its been 2-3 weeks since it started flowering

 

[Chrisjames47]

check your phone apps for them also. I got both to compair and are the same from my readings. I’m sure the more exp are always better but I only grow a few plants for personal use. So I don’t see the point unless your maybe a commercial grower or just have too much money laying around

Thanks, il look for some apps before I buy one

 

[Chrisjames47]

Yeah a “world class” biochemist.

wow does that mean we can call ourselves that because we make MKP up as a concentrate prior to delivering it to the plants lol.

So would you say I should put less pk and bloom in or cut it out all together?

 

[curious2garden]

Hi people I am 5 weeks into flower and my buds don't look anywhere near as big as other people's I see at 5 weeks, do you think there could be a problem? I am feeding every water once a day with:
Canna A&B 1/4 strenght.
Cannazym 1/4 strength.
Rhizotonic 1/4 strength.
Buddahs tree advanced meta boost 1/2 strength.
Buddahs tree pk 9/18 1/2 strenght
I am using passive intake but have to have the vents closed to get negative pressure as I only have a 4 inch extraction (which I will be upgrading after this grow) and the humidity has been between 15-20 % at the top of the canopy, I just bought humidifier but it won't fit in tent it's packed full with plants, what do you think? Thanks

I can't see your plants to tell if there's a problem because of your HPS. You need a more natural spectrum for diagnostic pictures.

You need a TDS pen before you need humidifiers et cetera. In my experience humidity reduction is more important than increase. I grow in the Mojave Desert. My humidity is rarely over 10% and my canopy will be over 90 until sometime in October. My plants get big and I'm way outside the VPD.

As for size I would not be concerned. Best of luck on finishing your grow

 

[Chrisjames47]

I can't see your plants to tell if there's a problem because of your HPS. You need a more natural spectrum for diagnostic pictures.

You need a TDS pen before you need humidifiers et cetera. In my experience humidity reduction is more important than increase. I grow in the Mojave Desert. My humidity is rarely over 10% and my canopy will be over 90 until sometime in October. My plants get big and I'm way outside the VPD.

As for size I would not be concerned. Best of luck on finishing your grow

Thanks for the input, I will be getting an ec meter in next couple of weeks would I need a tds aswell or can you do both on one meter?
Thanks

 

[jondamon]

Thanks for the input, I will be getting an ec meter in next couple of weeks would I need a tds aswell or can you do both on one meter?
Thanks

EC TDS PPM they are all just different ways of measuring nutrient strength.

in the U.K. the most common and the most universal is EC. Electrical conductivity

With ppm it matters what scale your calibration is.

ppm 700 can be EC1.0
Ppm 500 can be EC1.0

this is because there are multiple ppm scales. .7 and .5.

 

[jondamon]

So would you say I should put less pk and bloom in or cut it out all together?

Like I told you last time you can do it with just A/B

I used CANNA coco A/B for about 4 years with nothing else!

 

[Chrisjames47]

Like I told you last time you can do it with just A/B

I used CANNA coco A/B for about 4 years with nothing else!

I remember you saying now but I done some research and saw so many people using pk and blooms, so compared to grows we're blooms are used would you say just a & b can produce as much quality and yield?
Thanks

 

[Chrisjames47]

EC TDS PPM they are all just different ways of measuring nutrient strength.

in the U.K. the most common and the most universal is EC. Electrical conductivity

With ppm it matters what scale your calibration is.

ppm 700 can be EC1.0
Ppm 500 can be EC1.0

this is because there are multiple ppm scales. .7 and .5.

Ok thanks for the info, I will just get an EC meter then I have just been looking at the bluelab truncheon I think I'l get that one unless there are any others you can recommend.
Thanks

 

[jondamon]

I remember you saying now but I done some research and saw so many people using pk and blooms, so compared to grows we're blooms are used would you say just a & b can produce as much quality and yield?
Thanks

Mate I only use A and B now with some Epsom salts and calmag and a teeny tiny bit of PK booster In the form of Monopotassium Phosphate (the dry salt most PK boosters are made from)

My EC Is currently 0.9 my nutrient manufacturer recommends 2.4EC by now!

I use a BLUELAB EC TRUNCHEON myself. Had the same one since 2012.

 

[jondamon]

and FYI I will take lots of smaller buds over massive buds any day as massive buds can get rot a lot easier than the smaller ones.

 

[jondamon]

Hi people I am 5 weeks into flower and my buds don't look anywhere near as big as other people's I see at 5 weeks, do you think there could be a problem? I am feeding every water once a day with:
Canna A&B 1/4 strenght.
Cannazym 1/4 strength.
Rhizotonic 1/4 strength.
Buddahs tree advanced meta boost 1/2 strength.
Buddahs tree pk 9/18 1/2 strenght
I am using passive intake but have to have the vents closed to get negative pressure as I only have a 4 inch extraction (which I will be upgrading after this grow) and the humidity has been between 15-20 % at the top of the canopy, I just bought humidifier but it won't fit in tent it's packed full with plants, what do you think? Thanks

ALso another thing is your blasting them with PK boosters before they’ve even got to the stage that requires them.

This is why people say just use A/B.

hone your skills and work in 1 new “magic” bottle each grow to see if it helps with anything.

the only thing with canna that I would recommend is A/B and their ZYM

Rhizotonic is a root stimulator, Great for seedlings but not needed.

boost is over priced Triacontanol some other organic PGR.

PK13/14 is a waste if you don’t know when the best time to apply it is (which clearly you don’t) no offence.

the biggest thing ANYONE can do to their grow to help maximise is perfect their environment and learn how to apply their chosen nutrients by starting with a basic formula.

fuck me you can go to home bargains and buy some basic nutrients and make them work!

 

[jondamon]

would you say just a & b can produce as much quality and yield?
Thanks

I would say that an experienced grower who has dialed in their environment can achieve yields without the need for additional nutrients besides The A and B.

then after you become experienced you can start adding things.

12 years I’ve been growing.

my first grow i used IONIC brand.

then I switched to CANNA A/B rhizo ZYM boost and Pk1314.

it was only when I ditched everything besides the A/B I realised how little everything else actually did.

watch this @Star Dog can you show this guy what just A/B does please too.

 

[Chrisjames47]

Mate I only use A and B now with some Epsom salts and calmag and a teeny tiny bit of PK booster In the form of Monopotassium Phosphate (the dry salt most PK boosters are made from)

My EC Is currently 0.9 my nutrient manufacturer recommends 2.4EC by now!

I use a BLUELAB EC TRUNCHEON myself. Had the same one since 2012.View attachment 4940058View attachment 4940059View attachment 4940061View attachment 4940063View attachment 4940064View attachment 4940065

Yea after you told me about Epson salts and calmag I bought some and have put 5 desert spoons of Epson salt in to my 24ltr feed for last 2 days I forgot to mention it before, I was mad busy in work I have not used the calmag yet tho

 

[jondamon]

Yea after you told me about Epson salts and calmag I bought some and have put 5 desert spoons of Epson salt in to my 24ltr feed for last 2 days I forgot to mention it before, I was mad busy in work I have not used the calmag yet tho

And why did you add it?

At what strength?

did you have an Mg deficiency?

do you know what additional Mg can do if you add too much?

can it antagonise other nutrient elements?

so you’re dumping nutrient after nutrient on your plants to do what exactly?

research into nutrients does not mean look at what else you can dump on them! Lol.

heck man look at my older threads where I start with seedlings and make adjustments exactly like I describe and you’ll be growing like me in no time and even I’m not an “expert” I know enough to be pleased with every grow I harvest.