California SB-519 passed state senate 21-16

GreenhouseGreen

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"California has moved a step closer to decriminalizing psychedelic drugs after legislation this week was advanced by the state Senate.

Introduced earlier this year, Senate Bill 519 would allow the possession and sharing of certain hallucinogenic substances such as magic mushrooms, MDMA, LSD, ketamine and ibogaine for those 21 years and older. Notably, however, the legislation does not decriminalize sales of such drugs.

In addition, the measure would create a task force through the California Department of Public Health that would study and produce recommendations on regulations of the newly decriminalized drugs to the state Legislature.

SB 519 was passed by a 21-16 vote.

While the legislation still needs to be OK’d by the California Assembly, one of the bill’s authors, state Sen. Scott Wiener, lauded its passage Tuesday by the legislative body."

https://ktla.com/news/california/california-moves-closer-to-decriminalizing-psychedelic-drugs/




"This bill would make lawful the possession for personal use, as described, and the social sharing, as defined, of psilocybin, psilocyn, dimethyltryptamine (DMT), ibogaine, mescaline, lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD), ketamine, and 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine (MDMA), by and with persons 21 years of age or older. The bill would provide penalties for possession of these substance on school grounds, or possession by, or sharing with, persons under 21 years of age."

"(a) The War on Drugs has entailed overwhelming financial and societal costs, and the policy behind it does not reflect a modern understanding of substance use nor does it accurately reflect the potential therapeutic benefits or harms of various substances.
(b) Criminalization has not deterred drug use, and has instead made drug use less safe. It has created an unregulated underground market in which difficult-to-verify dosages and the presence of adulterants, including fentanyl, make the illicit drug supply dangerous.
(c) Lack of honest drug education has laid the groundwork for decades of misinformation, stigma, and cultural appropriation, which have all contributed to increasing the dangers of drug use.
(d) Harm reduction tools including drug-checking kits, gas chromatography mass spectrometry machines, milligram scales, and capsules allow users to make more accurate, safer, evidence-based decisions about their personal use. Allowing such paraphernalia can increase public health and safety.
(e) Research is advancing to support the use of psychedelic compounds with psychotherapy to treat mental health disorders, such as anxiety, depression, post-traumatic stress disorder and substance use disorder.
(f) Measure 109 in Oregon, which passed in November 2020 with a 56 percent vote of the state population, will establish a regulated psilocybin therapy system in Oregon to provide people therapeutic access to psilocybin.
(g) Measure 110 in Oregon, which passed in November 2020 with a 58 percent vote of the state population, decriminalized the personal possession of all drugs, and almost 20 countries around the world including Portugal, Czech Republic, and Spain have expressly or effectively decriminalized the personal use of all substances.
(h) The City of Oakland and the City of Santa Cruz have both passed resolutions decriminalizing and deprioritizing the enforcement of the possession, use, and propagation of psychedelic plants and fungi. Since June 2019, the Cities of Ann Arbor, Michigan; Somerville, Massachusetts; and Cambridge, Massachusetts; have all decriminalized the possession, use, and propagation of psychedelic plants and fungi at the local level. Also, in 2020, Washington, D.C., passed Initiative 81 to decriminalize and deprioritize the possession and use of psychedelic plants and fungi with 76 percent voter approval.
(i) To responsibly transition away from criminalization, protect people who use or may use drugs, and avoid negative environmental or cultural impacts, it is necessary to review the full legal context in which these changes to the law are made, incorporate evidence-based policy, consult with experts, and maintain open discourse based in harm reduction, reciprocity, and human rights into the process of developing alternative regulatory systems.
(j) This act will allow for the noncommercial, personal use and sharing of specified controlled substances, including for the purposes of group counseling and community-based healing, or other related services.
(k) These changes in law will not affect any restrictions on the driving or operating a vehicle while impaired or an employer’s ability to restrict the use of controlled substance by its employees, or affect the legal standard for negligence.
(l) Peyote is specifically excluded from the list of substances to be decriminalized, and any cultivation, harvest, extraction, tincture or other product manufactured or derived therefrom, because of the nearly endangered status of the peyote plant and the special significance peyote holds in Native American spirituality. Section 11363 of the Health and Safety Code, which makes it a crime in California to cultivate, harvest, dry, or process any plant of the genus Lophophora, also known as Peyote, is not amended or repealed.
(m) The State of California fully respects and supports the continued Native American possession and use of peyote under federal law, 42 U.S.C. 1996a, understanding that Native Americans in the United States were persecuted and prosecuted for their ceremonial practices and use of peyote for more than a century and had to fight numerous legal and political battles to achieve the current protected status, and the enactment of this legislation does not intend to undermine explicitly or implicitly that status."

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=202120220SB519


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First, a few cities relaxed on a few natural psychedelics. Then, Oregon relaxed on fucking everything. Now California is close to relaxing on shrooms, Mescaline, Ibogaine, DMT, E, L, and K.. It's coming.. We're on our way to undo-ing this fuckery we currently have.. Maybe I'm getting ahead of myself but shit like this gets me kind of excited.

I'm not sure I had a point in making this post except to share this.

o_O
 

hanimmal

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Id feel so much better about this if it didn't coincide with my hearing about this.


Shrooms and assault weapons, what could possibly go wrong?
 

Rob Roy

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Id feel so much better about this if it didn't coincide with my hearing about this.


Shrooms and assault weapons, what could possibly go wrong?
Except, there are people who ALREADY own both, scary "assault weapons" and shrooms, making shrooms legal isn't going to somehow turn those people into murderous thugs.

When certain substances are "illegal", assault weapons are often used to attack people who dare to own the illegal substances.

Now, with "legalization" , comes a host of restrictions and regulations, (so the "right people" can profit) and again the enforcers will need to use assault weapons to make sure the peasants aren't stepping outside the lines they're told to color within. How else do they enforce their regulations if they don't threaten people with guns ?

Seems like regardless of whether something is illegal or "legalized" the assault weapons stay in the hands of the enforcers eh?

Prohibition or prohibition lite, which is what all legalization really is, doesn't lessen the use of assault weapons....by the real bad guys.

Careful what you wish for, since assault weapons will be needed to enforce any ban on assault weapons won't they ?
 

GreenhouseGreen

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Id feel so much better about this if it didn't coincide with my hearing about this.


Shrooms and assault weapons, what could possibly go wrong?
Interesting. That will probably work out like the 10-round mag thing last year where no shops ever sold any in the few days it was appealed.

Coincidentally, yesterday, after a year of being on a bunch of wait lists, I'm finally locked into buying a specific rifle I've been wanting. COVID plus Biden being elected really fucked up supply and demand. Especially for "scary" ones like this (Zastava ZPAP, if you're curious). Being in California that means I probably won't even see it for like 6 weeks but I'm pretty stoked. Despite the wait, the fact that I'll be in a registry, the 10 round mag, and it will be CA‐Compliant.

All good though. Drugs and guns don't mix. Period. Like drugs and driving. Don't do it. In my experience the last thing you want to do while tripping is drive, operate any type of machinery, or hold any firearms. The fear and paranoia get real. Just my thoughts.
 

TacoMac

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Biden being elected really fucked up supply and demand.
No, it didn't. Trump doing absolutely nothing about a pandemic and then inciting an insurrection at our nations capital did all that.

Especially for "scary" ones like this (Zastava ZPAP, if you're curious).
There's nothing "scary" about an overpriced Kalashnikov. Especially given that the wood they use is so substandard that if left on a table on a deck overnight in Georgia it warps so badly it cracks.

Yes. That happened. It's that shitty.

You could buy a Century arms AK47 for less than half what you paid for that piece of shit and have a better rifle.
 

GreenhouseGreen

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What are you doing for the grip?

And, if drugs and guns are bad, maybe think twice when posting about a gun purchase on a weed forum haha.
It will have a grip fin before it crosses state lines. Part of why it takes a while. It has a fixed stock so I'll be able to keep the removable mag.

Also, if you set a 10-strip of acid right next to a loaded rifle nothing will happen. You can watch those inanimate objects do nothing. However, if you eat said ten strip and walk out the house with said rifle.. well.. That's obviously bad. You can be a responsible drug user and gun owner but, usually those are not done together. Weed may or may not be a little different, I'm not going to debate that. I was mostly replying to the "Shrooms and assault weapons, what could possibly go wrong?". Reason being I 100% agree that guns specifically should not be handled while tripping.
 

hanimmal

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No, it didn't. Trump doing absolutely nothing about a pandemic and then inciting an insurrection at our nations capital did all that.


There's nothing "scary" about an overpriced Kalashnikov. Especially given that the wood they use is so substandard that if left on a table on a deck overnight in Georgia it warps so badly it cracks.

Yes. That happened. It's that shitty.

You could buy a Century arms AK47 for less than half what you paid for that piece of shit and have a better rifle.
I liked it for the first part about the Biden bullshit.

I know know anything about guns other than giving a 10 year old kid one that puts him on his ass and laughing about it, is a dick move.
 

Hollatchaboy

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It will have a grip fin before it crosses state lines. Part of why it takes a while. It has a fixed stock so I'll be able to keep the removable mag.

Also, if you set a 10-strip of acid right next to a loaded rifle nothing will happen. You can watch those inanimate objects do nothing. However, if you eat said ten strip and walk out the house with said rifle.. well.. That's obviously bad. You can be a responsible drug user and gun owner but, usually those are not done together. Weed may or may not be a little different, I'm not going to debate that. I was mostly replying to the "Shrooms and assault weapons, what could possibly go wrong?". Reason being I 100% agree that guns specifically should not be handled while tripping.
Tell that to Hunter S. Thompson! Lol
 

mooray

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It will have a grip fin before it crosses state lines. Part of why it takes a while. It has a fixed stock so I'll be able to keep the removable mag.

Also, if you set a 10-strip of acid right next to a loaded rifle nothing will happen. You can watch those inanimate objects do nothing. However, if you eat said ten strip and walk out the house with said rifle.. well.. That's obviously bad. You can be a responsible drug user and gun owner but, usually those are not done together. Weed may or may not be a little different, I'm not going to debate that. I was mostly replying to the "Shrooms and assault weapons, what could possibly go wrong?". Reason being I 100% agree that guns specifically should not be handled while tripping.
Kinda hard to come by, but they make some nice wooden old style rifle buttstocks that get the web of your hand over the top of the trigger opening. Something as naughty as an AK just looks like a cool ranch rifle at that point.

Not entirely complete. Now if you hit your wife or get swatted by gamer douches on the interwebs and the cops come by your house and see those inanimate objects sitting there doing nothing, you might have a problem.

One nice thing about weed in the legal states is that when they ask you on the firearm application about being addicted to, or user of, any illegal substances, they don't specifically mention federally illegal, in which case you can at least answer somewhat truthfully when you say no. Plus, law that aren't enforced don't really exist in practice, so when states legalize and the federal gov't does nothing, it's an acknowledgement of sorts of legalization in the eyes of the federal gov't.
 

GreenhouseGreen

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No, it didn't. Trump doing absolutely nothing about a pandemic and then inciting an insurrection at our nations capital did all that.

I'm basing what I've said from what I witnessed at various gun shops I've visited in Southern California. Yes, COVID was the main one (why I put that first) but there was a second wave clearing out what little stock they built up following the election. I don't know about any effect from the insurgence. I have no reason not to believe that there was another wave, though. I visited these shops at different points in 2020 and their stock was basically non-existent. I gave up visiting the local shops in November because it began to feel like a lost cause and just hoped to get a call from one of the waitlists or notifications online. I got a hit yesterday and bought it. It's my money. I'm not trying to convince anybody to do the same. This is honestly my first rifle on that platform and I don't feel I have the knowledge on AKs to even have a strong opinion. I don't even know anyone with one. It's also too late to go back on the deal anyways.


There's nothing "scary" about an overpriced Kalashnikov. Especially given that the wood they use is so substandard that if left on a table on a deck overnight in Georgia it warps so badly it cracks.

I see where you're coming from, but I'm sure you know what I meant. As for the cracking, that sucks. I'd contact Zastava USA if you haven't already. Was this the ZPAP or an NPAP?


You could buy a Century arms AK47 for less than half what you paid for that piece of shit and have a better rifle.

I don't have anything negative to say about Century Arms. I've never fired either. I just chose the ZPAP. If my ZPAP fails, Century Arms may be my next purchase. Although I'm hoping my next purchase is a Mini Thirty.
 

UncleBuck

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Interesting. That will probably work out like the 10-round mag thing last year where no shops ever sold any in the few days it was appealed.

Coincidentally, yesterday, after a year of being on a bunch of wait lists, I'm finally locked into buying a specific rifle I've been wanting. COVID plus Biden being elected really fucked up supply and demand. Especially for "scary" ones like this (Zastava ZPAP, if you're curious). Being in California that means I probably won't even see it for like 6 weeks but I'm pretty stoked. Despite the wait, the fact that I'll be in a registry, the 10 round mag, and it will be CA‐Compliant.

All good though. Drugs and guns don't mix. Period. Like drugs and driving. Don't do it. In my experience the last thing you want to do while tripping is drive, operate any type of machinery, or hold any firearms. The fear and paranoia get real. Just my thoughts.
sorry your penis is so small
 

tkufoS

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Interesting. That will probably work out like the 10-round mag thing last year where no shops ever sold any in the few days it was appealed.

Coincidentally, yesterday, after a year of being on a bunch of wait lists, I'm finally locked into buying a specific rifle I've been wanting. COVID plus Biden being elected really fucked up supply and demand. Especially for "scary" ones like this (Zastava ZPAP, if you're curious). Being in California that means I probably won't even see it for like 6 weeks but I'm pretty stoked. Despite the wait, the fact that I'll be in a registry, the 10 round mag, and it will be CA‐Compliant.

All good though. Drugs and guns don't mix. Period. Like drugs and driving. Don't do it. In my experience the last thing you want to do while tripping is drive, operate any type of machinery, or hold any firearms. The fear and paranoia get real. Just my thoughts.
I really never thought of going on a shroom / dove hunt :roll:
 
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