Anyone use MYCO JORDAN™ – PROFESSIONAL MYCORRHIZAL INOCULANT? It's fungi.

[Apostatize]

I don't grow organically, so I like the idea of adding fungi to improve root mass. I already use root enhancer throughout veg, until ~early/mid-bloom.

Currently, I'm using GH's full flora series line. But I use Mills' root enhancer, because a store's had it on sale. I'm fine with my nutes (for now), but this mycorrhizal product is supposed to increase roots' nutrient access points, increasing root mass. Bigger root ball, bigger buds. So, I'm strongly considering using this product.

If anyone's used a mycorrhizal product, particularly by Elite 91, I'd like to know how it worked out for you.

[To avoid wasting your time, I'm considering the other threads on RIU that include the term "myco," https://www.rollitup.org/search/2566151/?q=myco&o=relevance.]

 

[kingromano]

they list 500 spores per gram(g.intradices), which is pretty high
the ones is use have 400sp/g

i use it to innoculate my rockwool good shit

 

[rkymtnman]

why overcomplicate things? run sterile. or run with good bacteria.

 

[rkymtnman]

and seriously, how about Myco Buble? Myco Jackson? Myco Phelps?

 

[Apostatize]

why overcomplicate things? run sterile. or run with good bacteria.

Thanks. My grow medium is rockwool, which adds nothing nutrient/bacteria-wise. I like that this myco product is supposed to add root mass, basically by becoming an extension of the roots. It's a water-soluble powder.

I'm not familiar with adding good bacteria (or intentionally adding any bacteria) to rockwool, but myco sounds easy. Perhaps there may be problems with pH and/or clogging nutrient uptake? Besides basic root enhancer, do you have any particular product recommendations -- commercial or home-concoction -- to increase root mass?

 

[rkymtnman]

Thanks. My grow medium is rockwool, which adds nothing nutrient/bacteria-wise. I like that this myco product is supposed to add root mass, basically by becoming an extension of the roots. It's a water-soluble powder.

I'm not familiar with adding good bacteria (or intentionally adding any bacteria) to rockwool, but myco sounds easy. Perhaps there may be problems with pH and/or clogging nutrient uptake? Besides basic root enhancer, do you have any particular product recommendations -- commercial or home-concoction -- to increase root mass?

no, i only use bacteria to prevent rot. my roots don't need any help: they are normally huge (usually fill up whatever container they are in)

 

[Apostatize]

my roots don't need any help: they are normally huge (usually fill up whatever container they are in)

Right, I'm wondering if mine do. Typically, they grow through the largest block I use (6" or 8").... But there's definitely a difference between seed and clone, I'm just trying to minimize that difference in roots/yield by doing things like 1) ensuring knots form where I super-crop, 2) lollipopping, 3) monster-cropping (assuming I preserve a non-monster clone of the pheno, too), and now 4) possibly add something specifically to boost roots (haven't decided).

I'm also being more realistic/selective with the number of branches I allow to bloom -- it's a plant-by-plant decision.

 

[kingromano]

personnaly i cant run sterile because all the water i get is from a well .. and this water is very hard so i use the water from my air conditionners/dehumidifiers instead
chlorine/h2o2 has no effect on it because it has too much organic matter to oxydise

city tap water allow you to run sterile, because its sterilized at the water treatment facility, and sent to you with just enough chlorine in it to stay clean
if you dont aerate you res the chlorine will stay long time enough to keep things sterile

for organic hydro, bacterias are easy to get with worm castings
i always let my system cycle a few weeks before introducing plants
with biofilter in the res, and some worm castings on the rockwool where the dripper piss

at the beginning water will get cloudy and it will smell bad, because of the bacterial bloom
but very quick water will get clearer and clearer and bad smell will disappear
then you can transplant clones in the system with some trichodermas/myco

no need to tell you how fast plants will root in this..

 

[Don't Bogart]

Using fungi is a great idea. Fungi have much smaller root systems so they extend out to capture nutrients that your plants can't grab. My medium is pea stone and some fungi will actually etch out nutrients from the stone to deliver to your plants. Don't forget this is a symbiotic relationship. Nutrients for hydrocarbons. I used to get all pissed off when mushrooms would pop up in my lawn. Then I found out it's a sign of a healthy lawn. Or at least there is some good work happening.
I found this.

Mycorrhizal Association in Cannabis Cultivation

A symbiotic relationship between plant and fungus.

www.cannabistech.com

 

[Apostatize]

Using fungi is a great idea. Fungi have much smaller root systems so they extend out to capture nutrients that your plants can't grab. My medium is pea stone and some fungi will actually etch out nutrients from the stone to deliver to your plants. Don't forget this is a symbiotic relationship. Nutrients for hydrocarbons. I used to get all pissed off when mushrooms would pop up in my lawn. Then I found out it's a sign of a healthy lawn. Or at least there is some good work happening.
I found this.

Mycorrhizal Association in Cannabis Cultivation

A symbiotic relationship between plant and fungus.

www.cannabistech.com

Thanks for that, it's helpful! Earlier, I'd skimmed RIU threads that include "myco"; one particular grower went on about that symbiotic relationship turning parasitic ... also made endo/ecto distinctions advising against broad-spectrum myco products and only buying endo or ecto (i'd have to revisit the thread)? Idk, I was just going to go with the product in the subject line above, I haven't yet considered whether the points the grower was making should affect whether the Myco Jordan product would be good for my grow.

 

[Don't Bogart]

one particular grower went on about that symbiotic relationship turning parasitic

Ironically it is parasitic...in a sense. The fungi puncture the root wall. There, the transfer between the plant and fungi of nutrients takes place. The fungi also setup a defense perimeter. This is known as the Hartig net. It surrounds the root with it's webbing fending off a lot of nasties. With some plants it will even capture and devour nematodes which would've bored through the root system and eventually kill the plant.
As far as the endo/ecto thing Israel has been at this for about 30 years and has boiled it down to 2 fungi which work best. That's in the article.
I just bought this based on the article.

Dynomyco Mycorrhizal Inoculant - 100 gram / 3.5oz

Supplying Humboldt County’s farmers with the finest service, selection, and solutions. Having Fun In The Garden since 2002.

nhs-hydroponics.com

Also check this out.

Disease Resistant, GMO Cannabis

The ethically questionable biotech race for better, stronger, healthier crops.

www.cannabistech.com

 

[Don't Bogart]

You may be interested in this book.
Changed my perspective on growing anything.
I'm not suggesting you buy it through Amazon. It's the only link I could scurry up.

Teaming with Fungi: The Organic Grower's Guide to Mycorrhizae (Science for Gardeners): Lowenfels, Jeff: 9781604697292: Amazon.com: Books

Buy Teaming with Fungi: The Organic Grower's Guide to Mycorrhizae (Science for Gardeners) on Amazon.com ✓ FREE SHIPPING on qualified orders

www.amazon.com

 

[OldMedUser]

Ironically it is parasitic...in a sense. The fungi puncture the root wall. There, the transfer between the plant and fungi of nutrients takes place. The fungi also setup a defense perimeter. This is known as the Hartig net. It surrounds the root with it's webbing fending off a lot of nasties. With some plants it will even capture and devour nematodes which would've bored through the root system and eventually kill the plant.
As far as the endo/ecto thing Israel has been at this for about 30 years and has boiled it down to 2 fungi which work best. That's in the article.
I just bought this based on the article.

Dynomyco Mycorrhizal Inoculant - 100 gram / 3.5oz

Supplying Humboldt County’s farmers with the finest service, selection, and solutions. Having Fun In The Garden since 2002.

nhs-hydroponics.com

Also check this out.

Disease Resistant, GMO Cannabis

The ethically questionable biotech race for better, stronger, healthier crops.

www.cannabistech.com

I started using DynoMyco a year ago and the plants seem to like it. Mostly growing in Promix HP with AN 3-part tho I've been adding organics to the mix to get that extra flavour in my buds. The plants seem to like that too.

;peace: