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It just looks like a blend it has organic components and ingredients that add nutritive qualities so i would treat this more like soil. Growing in coco is hydro despite what the media feels like. Pure coco is soil-less and adds very limited amounts of nutrition from the media itself.
 

Jsw396

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It just looks like a blend it has organic components and ingredients that add nutritive qualities so i would treat this more like soil. Growing in coco is hydro despite what the media feels like. Pure coco is soil-less and adds very limited amounts of nutrition from the media itself.
Ah okay, that makes sense. I suppose soil doesn't just have to be dirt. The guy at the shop where I bought it didn't say soiless, that's just what I assumed it was. He did tell me compared dirt that I would have to water every 1-2 days opposed to every 3-4 days, wondering how true that is. Il have to read up on this, this while time I was thinking it was like hydro lol

Edit- So Royal Gold just wrote me back. I wrote them when you asked me if it was coco/soil. He informed me it is soiless, he said the additives would give me enough nutes for at least 2 weeks. Maybe I started a bit early on the nutes. You know what I bet I did, I seen yellowing in the new growth thinking a deficiency around the end of week 2, and it could have been ph issues. Rookie mistake.

I suppose the goal now is to correct the ph and go from there.
 
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I have no experience with that brand so with the new info sounds like your working through some new possibilities.

Hydro styles fun boss. I personally feel its easier. But I learnt to grow hydro so.... ‍
 

Jsw396

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I have no experience with that brand so with the new info sounds like your working through some new possibilities.

Hydro styles fun boss. I personally feel its easier. But I learnt to grow hydro so.... ‍
Yeah I will try correct my runoff first, and come back with updates. The plants right now don't look too horrible at all. The one looks funky but it's still growing pretty good. I'm sure they will look, and feel a lot better with everything growing like it should be.
 

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twentyeight.threefive

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I just watered about an hour ago and I used lighter nutes today. For instance idk why but today did 2ml calmag, did 1ml micro/grow but left out the 1ml bloom. Just wasn't sure if it was getting too much phosphate so I decided to leave that one out. But would it be too late for me to run some plain ro ph water through? I also have florakleen but was saving that for the end. If you guys reccomend I should wait and continue regular that's what I will do. Appreciate the input aswel.
What EC did you feed at? Making your own decisions on what you think they need vs the nutrient component schedule is a bad move.

Never use plain water with coco.

Edit: nevermind just saw "coco"
 

Jsw396

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What EC did you feed at? Making your own decisions on what you think they need vs the nutrient component schedule is a bad move.

Never use plain water with coco.

Edit: nevermind just saw "coco"
182 ppm is what I've had it around before today. Today without the flora bloom it was about 162ish. I've never used the ec on setting on my pen just the ppm selection. Today is only my 3rd feeding aswel. Yeah I probably shouldn't of went off the schedule.
 

Jsw396

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I've only used nutes twice (third time today), and curious what is going on. So I always add nutes furst, and then ph. I let it sit for a while then recheck the ph. It's usually the same around 6-6.05ph, and then I water. So far the most I've watered at this stage is half gallon per the 4 for plants, so 2 gallons all together. Ppm usually goes in around 180-182. Runoff check today on each plant showed on average around 5.0 ph, and 900ppm. 1 plant my most horrible one is showing 1200 ppm and 4.7 ph on the runoff. What the hell??? Am I not watering enough, or often enough? How could it be that high only using nute twice? How should I proceed? My grow progress is in my previous posts.

Ro water/calmag/flora trio
Kings mix coco blend
**update**
Got a new ph pen today. Got an Apera ph20. It's far better than what I had, especially after learning how to properly calibrate. The vivosun ph pen I had was literally reading about 1-1.5 ph lower that what it actually was. No clue how the plants made it this far, but water went in today at 5.9-6.0 and though my ppms are a bit high still (few hundred lower on 2, still high on 1, yes that's right 3 plants I lost one being a noob lst'ing ya live & learn) that's far better than 4.8 that was coming out and only God knows what was going in before. Ph runoff ✅ now the ppms. I think I need to water either a day early, or stop having my fan blow through the fabric pots as I think maybe the nutes are drying too fast and possibly building up that way, not sure. I watered with nutes today, gonna do just cal mag next, maybe some rapid start for more roots. I read you have to put nutes through to maintain ph and ppms, that just straight ro won't work good and can shock the plants. That explains doing light nutes now to lower ppm. Thanks guys, I will update. Any advice, tips, criticism welcomed..
 
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Northwood

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I think I need to water either a day early, or stop having my fan blow through the fabric pots as I think maybe the nutes are drying too fast and possibly building up that way,
From reading the thread I tend to agree. I didn't see a photo of your plants, but using nutes as if it was a coco or a Promix HP peat grow in soil is likely going to cause issues. Those water with feeding schedules are normally everyday, or even twice a day. Think of flood & drain (ebb/flow) or spray & drain (aeroponics). It's really a form of hydro.

Yes, for sure you can grow in soil with the nutes you're using but you need to use a whole different regimen in feeding and watering. I've never tried it, but many here are successful with that setup.
 

Jsw396

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From reading the thread I tend to agree. I didn't see a photo of your plants, but using nutes as if it was a coco or a Promix HP peat grow in soil is likely going to cause issues. Those water with feeding schedules are normally everyday, or even twice a day. Think of flood & drain (ebb/flow) or spray & drain (aeroponics). It's really a form of hydro.

Yes, for sure you can grow in soil with the nutes you're using but you need to use a whole different regimen in feeding and watering. I've never tried it, but many here are successful with that setup.
I'm using a soiless mix, it's coco/peat/perlite with a couple extras in it. Il update with some photos tomorrow. Been doing some lst for the first time. I think I'm doing it right, minus snapping my 1 plant completely in half. Going a lot better now massaging it first before bending lol
 
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