N L and Dwarf Low Flyer Auto Outside

[rembrandt100]

April 9 I put 2 seeds in water to soak overnight, on the 10th they went on paper towels and the 13th they went into jiffy pots. I intended to keep them there until they sprouted and had true leaves. They were under regular florescent lights and I had intended to move them to the greenhouse once they had true leaves. Well the weather changed all that and they were moved out during the day and back inside a few nights. The temp range was up up 70 during the day and a few nights dropped to 45, any colder than that they came inside. It looked to me like they had stalled in their growth at 2 leaves. Today I decided to move them to the pots they will live in until harvest. One of them I think will stay in the greenhouse the other will go outside maybe on the deck. The growbag in foreground of the pic is Northern Lights Auto (8 weeks to flower) and behind that is Dwarf Low Flyer (6 weeks to flower). When I repotted them I used enough water to settle the soil around the plants and later used grow nutes mixed at 0.5 G/1 Liter water and water them with 1/2 liter per plant. This is my first time with Autos and I am wondering when the timing starts. If I start the time from when the sprouted they are 2.5 to 3 weeks old. If it is from when they went into the jiffy pots they are 2 weeks old. I did go to a site called mygrowdiaries to compare but they all seem to grow indoors. Any suggestions or comments will be well received.

 

[humunyaseeds]

they look kinda small to be 2 weeks old, nothing some extra lighting can't fix.

time pretty much starts once they come above soil...so around jiffy pot time for you.

Suggest you give them a little supplemental lighting for the first month or so to give them the best chance at gettin chunky. you don't have to tho, it'll improve the yield tho

 

[rembrandt100]

They were in the peat pellets for about a week. But in that time they had only grown to the first set of true leaves then stopped. I do know that there are no nutes in peat. That is why I used Boost nutes then. What I am not sure of is the reason why they did not grow. I have it down to 2 different reasons. 1 is that there was not enough light to support them. 2 the weather was too cold for them when it went down to below 50f. Anyway they are in the greenhouse now and there is a heater in there to keep it above 57F. Going forward I will water them with growth feeding and I guess we will see what happens. I have a feeling that I started them too soon.

 

[Daffy Dank]

Is there any calcium/ magnesium available for them? I like to put 1 tsp of crushed dolomite lime per gal of soil in my soiless mix, then water with tap water ph'd at about 6.5. White vinegar to lower ph, and baking soda if it needs raised. This system works great and my plants seem to love it. Ill dust top of soil with a bit more lime when she starts flowering heavy. Seed broke ground march 20 and i used cab of my truck for a greenhouse till temps came up a bit. In north carolina so i have added advantage of warmer temps than northeners. Im new to autos and hoping for best. Shes showing a few preflowers but no real flowering as of yet. Narneys blue cheese auto. Interesting, all leaves so far are 5 leafers, and she has a huge main stem.

 

[rembrandt100]

Is there any calcium/ magnesium available for them? I like to put 1 tsp of crushed dolomite lime per gal of soil in my soiless mix, then water with tap water ph'd at about 6.5. White vinegar to lower ph, and baking soda if it needs raised. This system works great and my plants seem to love it. Ill dust top of soil with a bit more lime when she starts flowering heavy. Seed broke ground march 20 and i used cab of my truck for a greenhouse till temps came up a bit. In north carolina so i have added advantage of warmer temps than northeners. Im new to autos and hoping for best. Shes showing a few preflowers but no real flowering as of yet. Narneys blue cheese auto. Interesting, all leaves so far are 5 leafers, and she has a huge main stem.

Your plant looks a lot better than mine does but I am going to see what happens anyway. It is not like I am going to throw it out or destroy it. It will be what it will be I guess. I think I made a few mistake in my process. First I think I started the seed too early due to the weather. Second I think I should have planted the sprouts in soil instead of peat pellets. My reasoning is peat pellets do not have any nutes at all for the plant whereas soil does. To answer your question I do have Cal-kick but I thought that it was too early to use that. The nutes that I am using is Plant Prod MJ line. I used boost when the seeds sprouted. When they went into the pots I used Growth. I intended to use Cal-kick in the next watering and then alternate between Growth and Cal-kick until they start to flower them switch to Bloom.
Thank you both for the reply

 

[humunyaseeds]

They were in the peat pellets for about a week. But in that time they had only grown to the first set of true leaves then stopped. I do know that there are no nutes in peat. That is why I used Boost nutes then. What I am not sure of is the reason why they did not grow. I have it down to 2 different reasons. 1 is that there was not enough light to support them. 2 the weather was too cold for them when it went down to below 50f. Anyway they are in the greenhouse now and there is a heater in there to keep it above 57F. Going forward I will water them with growth feeding and I guess we will see what happens. I have a feeling that I started them too soon.

yea probably a combo cold and lack of light

 

[go go kid]

yep, too cold anfd they wont grow during the night time. im just learning this with autos myself, the ones in the polly tunnel are doing better but not by much

 

[humunyaseeds]

yep, too cold anfd they wont grow during the night time. im just learning this with autos myself, the ones in the polly tunnel are doing better but not by much

once u get over r the learning curve its smooth sailing

 

[rembrandt100]

I took these 2 pic's today. First is the dwarf Low Flyer and it has started to do something. The second is Northern Lights and it has not done much at all. But look at the 3rd pic. That plant came from the used soil from last years grow. After I harvested I threw the soil from the pots I grew in, into the veggie garden. That seed sprouted and grew there after spending the winter frozen. Makes me laugh when I consider the effort we put into starting and sprouting seeds. The fourth pic is a seed that has looked like that for 5 days now. the 5th pic is seeds that I got from a bag of kush that I had. They were all sprouted and put in pots the same day as the plant in pic 4

 

[humunyaseeds]

I took these 2 pic's today. First is the dwarf Low Flyer and it has started to do something. The second is Northern Lights and it has not done much at all. But look at the 3rd pic. That plant came from the used soil from last years grow. After I harvested I threw the soil from the pots I grew in, into the veggie garden. That seed sprouted and grew there after spending the winter frozen. Makes me laugh when I consider the effort we put into starting and sprouting seeds. The fourth pic is a seed that has looked like that for 5 days now. the 5th pic is seeds that I got from a bag of kush that I had. They were all sprouted and put in pots the same day as the plant in pic 4

hahaha right? people using heat mats and scarifying and wet napkins and rock wool lmao and this dudes like... meh..... ill just beast it out.

awesome

 

[rembrandt100]

Ok so here we are at a day or two past 1 month. The weather has not been kind as far as overnight is concerned. Days are running at 70+ and I have a heater in the greenhouse but it still gets down to mid 50's at night. I guess I am going to see what comes of it. Right now I am wondering if I should just leave it alone or think about topping or training it when the time comes. If I read correctly I need to decide when it has it's 5th set of leaves. On a lighter note the weather is supposed to get better as of tomorrow with full sun all day and warmer at night and here on out.

Pic 4 is the Dwarf Low Flyer
Pic 5 The 2 white pots and the small green pots are 4 seeds from a OG Kush bag, the 2 taller plants are seeds from last years Photo White Widow grow, the plant in the front center is a photo White Widow that was planted the same time as the 2 plants in the grow bags, which are White Widow Auto ( in front ) and the Dwarf Low Flyer.

Lastly the plant that grew in my garden bed without any help at all has not grown any more than it had last week. So I am thinking that maybe the cold weather may have something to do with the slow growth. What that will do to the flowering time of the Auto's I assume I am going to find out.

 

[rembrandt100]

I decided to try training the Dwarf Low Flyer today. Moved it half way to where I wanted it in the morning and got it the rest of the way this evening. See pics. The Northern Lights Auto is not large enough to do anything like that yet but I am considering leaving it alone and do its own thing. At the start of this project I started the 2 auto's, 2 Fem. White Widow and 4 seeds from a bag of OG Kush. ! of the widows sprouted but then stopped growing. So now I think I may start another Auto. It will be either Jack Herer, NTL X Gelato, or another WW or Dwarf Low Flyer.

 

[rembrandt100]

I allowed the plant to grow up to the 5th set of leaves See pic 1 That was when I decided to top it last week. See pic 2 I watched a few videos on super cropping and wanted to try it. I went to the space between the 4th set of leaves and where I had topped it. I started massaging it and bending it downward all the while squeezing it and suddenly it was bent 90 degrees from the main stem. See pic 3 When you look at pic 3 note that there are 2 bud site growing from the main stem below the bend and there are 2 more at what was the top of the plant. At this point I thinking that I screwed up and maybe I should stand it back up and tie it. Instead I went in the house and thought about it for an hour. I went inside and played with the crossword smoked a joint and had a cup of tea. When I went back out it was about 2 hours later and I found what you see in pic 4. I dont believe how resilient the plant is. Now I am thinking of doing the same thing to the White Widow see pic 5

 

[rembrandt100]

Well it looks like I did not do any harm to the plant. It has recover and now it looks like I may have at least 6 colas coming out just above where I topped it. See pic1. I did not do as well with the Widow. I believe I cut it too low. I should have waited until 5th set of leaves see pic 2.

 

[rembrandt100]

So looking back over this thread it looks like I planted these girls in the grow bags April 29 so they are 6 weeks in the soil. The first 3 pic's are of the Dwarf Low Flyer Auto. She has been fed Plant Prod growth and will change over to bloom likely in the next week. She was sold as 6 weeks to flower. The last 2 pic's are of the Auto White Widow. She has not shown any buds yet and I am still playing with it. Note that there is a limb missing about 1/2 way up the main stalk. I was not paying attention and broke it off and it was not possible to repair it.

 

[rembrandt100]

Pic 1 is the Dwarf Low Flyer (on left) and the White Widow. Both plants are at 8 weeks. Pic 2 is one of the lower limb buds and 3 is the clump of buds on the top of the DLF. Pic 4 & 5 is the top of the White Widow it has been in flower for about 2 weeks. Pic 6 is the entire plant of the DLF. Both plants are on Plant Prod Bloom (10-30-20) at 1G/1L tap water. It gets a bit too warm in the greenhouse during the afternoon (90-100F) so they are getting 1 L of nutes in the morning and a second in the late afternoon. I sometimes switch the bloom for Cal Kick for 1 of the feedings. I know the grow bag is moist to the bottom but it dries the top inch of soil so I know they are using all the water. Thank you for your time and any suggestions are welcome. I will see what I can do about getting better pic's with out the greenery in the background.

 

[rembrandt100]

Well the DLF got chopped down tonight. When I was looking at it I saw pic 1. I thought that it was a mold spot and started cutting it out and then I knew that the plant was finished. it was not mold. This plant was grown in a 5 gallon grow bag so I decided to see what the root system looked like see pic 2. It is a lot smaller than I thought it would be but it is a dwarf plant. Pic 3 is before I started trimming and 4 is before it got hung to dry. Best part of the night was after I cleaned my clipper's blades of the resin collected from trimming.

 

[rembrandt100]

DLF is now in jars. It hung for 8 days and after all is said and done it produced 45 grams.

 

[rembrandt100]

After 11 weeks and 2 days I harvested the Northern Lights Auto. It is now going to hang for about week then will trim it a jar it. The first 2 pic's were the day before I took it down. Like the DWF above this plant was in the greenhouse for its entire life. Note the size of the root ball. I did expect it to be bigger than it is. You can see the pot that it was grown in in the last pic. I used the Plant Prod MJ line of nutes and followed the feeding chart for Auto grown under lights in tents. I will post amount harvested after it is dried and in jars.