Transplanting

xtsho

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So this is one of them I just checked on since early this morning. It was kind of cold this morning so I have a tiny heater, I placed in my grow box. But I also have a fan going as well. Is this one even worth saving?

You're manhandling the plant and damaging the roots. Why are you taking the old soil away?

I don't understand what you're trying to do. Why would you transplant into such a small pot anyway? That looks like something you would start a seed in.
 

jochhe1998

Active Member
Decades of growing and transplanting thousands of plants without using microbes and never have any issues from transplant shock that many seem to have. The main issue people have that are struggling to grow cannabis is overcomplicating things, bad watering practices, and over feeding. Microbes are not going to do anything to eliminate those issues.

Forget it's cannabis and treat it like any other plant. There is nothing special about cannabis with regards to what it needs to grow being any different from thousands of other plant species. There may be an industry that specifically targets cannabis growers with a bunch of products but that doesn't mean they are needed. I planted my first vegetable seed 50 years ago and have been gardening and growing plants ever since. I've never used or needed all these products people seem to think they need.


And as far as microbes go I raise my own since I'm transitioning my garden to KNF and JADAM growing methods.


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I agree with xtsho. Most times it is bad practice. For cannabis, your medium should be built in a way that makes it almost impossible to overwater. Coco Coir/Good potting soil with 40-50% pearlite usually does the trick for 3-5 gallon pots. Eliminating the overwatering variable is huge.

Also, make sure the roots are established and the plants are healthy before you transplant. All of this is probably 90-95% of the work you truly need to do. Add some microbes and mycorrhizae if you wanna get fancy.
 

jochhe1998

Active Member
So this is one of them I just checked on since early this morning. It was kind of cold this morning so I have a tiny heater, I placed in my grow box. But I also have a fan going as well. Is this one even worth saving?
If you have limited grow space you should get other ones. Also, try looking into getting clones. Much much easier, guaranteed genetics, no seedling hassle.
 

xtsho

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If you have limited grow space you should get other ones. Also, try looking into getting clones. Much much easier, guaranteed genetics, no seedling hassle.
Outside clones can bring their own set of problems.

It's really hard for me to understand why starting a plant from seed causes so many so much difficulty. I just toss them in some dirt, add water and walk away. The plant sprouts, grows, and I harvest it. Leave them alone and they'll grow.
 

JimmyJackCorn

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Decades of growing and transplanting thousands of plants without using microbes and never have any issues from transplant shock that many seem to have. The main issue people have that are struggling to grow cannabis is overcomplicating things, bad watering practices, and over feeding. Microbes are not going to do anything to eliminate those issues.

Forget it's cannabis and treat it like any other plant. There is nothing special about cannabis with regards to what it needs to grow being any different from thousands of other plant species. There may be an industry that specifically targets cannabis growers with a bunch of products but that doesn't mean they are needed. I planted my first vegetable seed 50 years ago and have been gardening and growing plants ever since. I've never used or needed all these products people seem to think they need.


And as far as microbes go I raise my own since I'm transitioning my garden to KNF and JADAM growing methods.

All true, all good.

My experience has been the same. As a matter of fact, whenever I transplant a plant, any plant, it loves the fresh soil and breathing room--and usually shoots up an inch within 24 hours.

Just make sure you water the pot well after a transplant. Top watering is fine for this (OP).
 

Nik-E

Active Member
That poor plant. Probably not worth saving. When you CAREFULLY remove the plant from the old container, as a whole, place it in a hole in the soil of the new pot. ALL the old soil stays with the plant as you move it to the new container. Disturbing the soil and roots is what causes stress to the plant.

Hold the plant upside down and slid it out of the container. This whole entire rootball goes into the new container undisturbed.
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Make a space in the new pot the same as the old container.
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Place entire rootball in new container. Done.
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Oh ok, yeah I watched a YouTube video an the guy said to remove all the dirt ‍♀. This helps out a lot. Will follow this method from now on.
 

xtsho

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Oh ok, yeah I watched a YouTube video an the guy said to remove all the dirt ‍♀. This helps out a lot. Will follow this method from now on.
Youtube strikes again. Seriously, youtube may have some good content and there are many non cannabis gardening channels that are worthwhile to watch but so much of the cannabis videos are from some dude with crappy plants spreading broscience. It's like they spend weeks learning how to use video editing software just so they can show you their crappy plants with buds that look like pieces of Popeyes fried chicken. Then people think that's how a plant should look which is why so many people posting photos of crispy fried plants get comments like "Nice plant" when the plant looks like larfy, overfed, garbage. If youtube is your main source of growing information you could very well lead yourself down a path to failure which apparently happened in this instance.

Remove all the dirt? That's a perfect example of some of the crap on youtube.

I hope you get things figured out. Next time just plant a seed in those pots and don't even worry about transplanting it until it's 8 -10 inches tall.

Good luck.
 

Nik-E

Active Member
Youtube strikes again. Seriously, youtube may have some good content and there are many non cannabis gardening channels that are worthwhile to watch but so much of the cannabis videos are from some dude with crappy plants spreading broscience. It's like they spend weeks learning how to use video editing software just so they can show you their crappy plants with buds that look like pieces of Popeyes fried chicken. Then people think that's how a plant should look which is why so many people posting photos of crispy fried plants get comments like "Nice plant" when the plant looks like larfy, overfed, garbage. If youtube is your main source of growing information you could very well lead yourself down a path to failure which apparently happened in this instance.

Remove all the dirt? That's a perfect example of some of the crap on youtube.

I hope you get things figured out. Next time just plant a seed in those pots and don't even worry about transplanting it until it's 8 -10 inches tall.

Good luck.
Ok, yeah I am very new to this. An I learn a lot on here, but my cousin said to check out Y.T. an so I checked it out. An yeah the guy took the plant out and removed all the dirt an transplanted it. So I done that with 3 plants so far, luckily 1 still seems to be fine. It ist drooping or wilting.... but I will definitely not transplant until 8 to 10 inches for sure next time.
Gonna drop a couple more seeds an get them going. When I first plant them after germination, they thrive pretty good. Guess I need to learn to let them be an quick getting too excited to mess with them ...lol
I appreciate all the advice from everyone. It does help tremendously an keeps me positive about growing.
 

Nik-E

Active Member
You're manhandling the plant and damaging the roots. Why are you taking the old soil away?

I don't understand what you're trying to do. Why would you transplant into such a small pot anyway? That looks like something you would start a seed in.
Oh, no that was the seedling I didn't transplant yet. That one wilted after I turned the heater on because it was a little chilly this morning. I was just asking if it was toast. Yeah, I tossed it. But your right, im messing with them too much. I'm just going leave them be, aside from watering an what not.
 
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