Defoliation the first few leafs

harrythehat

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Hey harrythehat how are you and your girls doing today! Just thought I'd pop by and say hi!
Thanks for the Hi.
Well one side is doing great.
The other I made another fuck up and there pulling back again LOL.
The root broiling has made roots sensitive to nutrient. With three different staged plants in this tank. the middle one was rocking along. But needed some nutes. Added some bringing it back up too 1.8/2.0 which I thought would be a ok. But no
Bitch I burnt the roots for 48 hours. Silly arse I normally spot when a plant drops its leaves an sort it this time I didn't
Dropped the nutes back to a remidial 1.4/1.6 and it's getting it's colour back. But lost part of an arm
It will be fine when flowering time comes in about a week.

The other tank is banging along. Purposely leaving it a few days to show what they get like if you don't defoliate
will post an update tomorrow.
 

harrythehat

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Tank on left over nuted for two days killing of a few leafs. It's coming back after 4 days of remidial 14/16 EC
Right hand tank there banging away now.
Gave them 6 days to build a bit of leaf as you can see it's pretty mobbed out with some leaves 3 deep
As far as I'm concerned needing a defoliate
 

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Tvanmunhen

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Enjoying the show there buddy! Keep on keeping on! You make me nervous with those scissors btw lmao. I'm sure if I sent my girl to your house she'd get a major haircut.
 

harrythehat

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Know it may look drastic
But can assure you it's nessecery if the girls were left any longer major stretch happens under the canopy (there's been a bit anyway)
your lady might get a cut if it grew leafage the same way.
Scissors what r they LOL fingernails are quicker an more accurate
 

Tvanmunhen

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I cut my brother s hair once...he beat my ass and locked me out of the house lol not a good barber.. do your fingers taste like booger and bud??
 

harrythehat

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More like sticky fingers and something to taste later like after making love. LOL OMG 2012 was the last time think have forgotten how to do that.
I use one of those hair trimmers. 1/8 cut all over can't really cock that up too much
 

harrythehat

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Put a search in here. This was the term.

Shade leaf removal
Most threads showed beneficial
Very much contrary to what others are saying.
So In Fact
There is no FACT about shade leaf removal
Is there?
 

Tvanmunhen

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I found this interesting!
 

harrythehat

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I found this interesting!
Join you on that one.
Have found, removal of early fan leaves allows the bottom arms to come up and a lot of times there taller than what would be the top cola that can be seen on these plants. Plant support is on the centre yet side arms are already taller.
My thoughts are.
Plant releases an adrenaline type like we do. Fight or flight when leafs are cut/ broken off. This goes into growth if the leaf is not there to repair. Shurley?


Once defoliation starts with my plants it goes on pretty much most all the flowering period as well save the last couple of weeks. You may think WTF does all that leaf come from. Have had this laughed at and plenty of abuse for just saying it. LOL have a Abiotic stress elicitor inbuilt in my system and using another in the way of LED as that also has ASE status.
Time and the show will tell.

Something else to look at. Light.
To me now it's electromagnetic energy waves
HTF does a spider fly over Everest. It positively charges a section of its web it floats up and over. How does it get down with moisture and negatively charging the web. Clever fookers could teach NASA something I'm sure.
A bit off topic but it's all about energy waves not light.
So with purer forms in the way of LED can we get away with less wattage.
Going to be interesting seeing what GPW comes back with 30 watts per plant on this cheapo Quantum board.
With a lot more countries allowing cannabis there will be better documentation of what is good and what's not so good for the plants and our yields.

Will shade leaf removal make it into the annuls,
Go on I reckon so.

Shame the UK is still illegal.
 

Wastei

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With a lot more countries allowing cannabis there will be better documentation of what is good and what's not so good for the plants and our yields.
This is pretty self explanatory. I think the main issue is you live in "Harryland" where you say one thing but act out another. I don't think you have the patience and capacity to read any studies, you're just practicing broscience buddy.
 
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Tvanmunhen

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Join you on that one.
Have found, removal of early fan leaves allows the bottom arms to come up and a lot of times there taller than what would be the top cola that can be seen on these plants. Plant support is on the centre yet side arms are already taller.
My thoughts are.
Plant releases an adrenaline type like we do. Fight or flight when leafs are cut/ broken off. This goes into growth if the leaf is not there to repair. Shurley?


Once defoliation starts with my plants it goes on pretty much most all the flowering period as well save the last couple of weeks. You may think WTF does all that leaf come from. Have had this laughed at and plenty of abuse for just saying it. LOL have a Abiotic stress elicitor inbuilt in my system and using another in the way of LED as that also has ASE status.
Time and the show will tell.
This study is a little off topic too but is a controlled experiment on stress factors.

Something else to look at. Light.
To me now it's electromagnetic energy waves
HTF does a spider fly over Everest. It positively charges a section of its web it floats up and over. How does it get down with moisture and negatively charging the web. Clever fookers could teach NASA something I'm sure.
A bit off topic but it's all about energy waves not light.
So with purer forms in the way of LED can we get away with less wattage.
Going to be interesting seeing what GPW comes back with 30 watts per plant on this cheapo Quantum board.
With a lot more countries allowing cannabis there will be better documentation of what is good and what's not so good for the plants and our yields.

Will shade leaf removal make it into the annuls,
Go on I reckon so.

Shame the UK is still illegal.
 

Tvanmunhen

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Not sure how I mucked up that reply for if you got that link but I thought this one was a little interesting but also off topic. It's a controlled experiment the dabels in the effects of stress and flower cycle!
 
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