Houstini

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Sour power og male being kept for the f2 and a couple of crosses, this male from my friends royal lemons is cool enough for me to file it away for future use though. I’ll be hitting the royal lemons ladies with sour power for sure. But this dude smells like lemon head candy.

pic of royal lemons f2
Lemon royale(swamp boys)x
Lemon sunrise (irie)
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quiescent

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According to AJ his cut is the sour diesel, JJ point blank asked him about it and the conclusion was drift.
As far as the ECSD, she is a temperamental ho, she veggies beautifully but when you go to flower she’s like a skateboard deck with marbles for wheels. She goes many directions. She likes it certain ways!
AJ aka the weasel is a clown, his isn't THE sour diesel. I really wanna put JJ on blast for his part in all this too but I think it's hard to see the forest from the trees.

The Bro decided it wasn't worth arguing with him about it towards the end of their discussion on the Adam Dunn Show and people are saying he agreed with AJ on his story. He agreed to disagree. After decades of knowing the guy people call Asshole Joe in public/the weasel in private I'd probably just let him think whatever he wants, too.

You want some legit sour, hit up shoreline. He's got it.
 

JewelRunner

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Dusted 2 tiny clones with an Ethos male, Wedding Cake x Temple Kush

Clones were:
Katsu - Key Lime Kush
00 Seeds - Dosidos Cookies (don't laugh, it was actually a decent grower, great yield and trichs)

I've made some seeds now, when do I get to create an instagram and start bullying others for doing the same thing?

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The answer is when you get a pet chicken and a greenhouse from K-mart
 

colocowboy

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AJ aka the weasel is a clown, his isn't THE sour diesel. I really wanna put JJ on blast for his part in all this too but I think it's hard to see the forest from the trees.

The Bro decided it wasn't worth arguing with him about it towards the end of their discussion on the Adam Dunn Show and people are saying he agreed with AJ on his story. He agreed to disagree. After decades of knowing the guy people call Asshole Joe in public/the weasel in private I'd probably just let him think whatever he wants, too.

You want some legit sour, hit up shoreline. He's got it.
Nope, ECSD is not the sour either. Shorelines work is working that out of there though for sure. The bro just sounds hostile, that’s his mo. Who knows about a guy called the weasel though. They all agreed he had the cut.
 

colocowboy

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Brain fart - do you think undetected ‘hop latent viroid’ could make a plant more prone to intersex trait expression?
It could even make them more susceptible to other infections like root rot & PM.
What do you think?
Personally I think there may be an infection of some type that could have some pressure that causes it. Could be something not previously known and passable to offspring.
 

quiescent

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Nope, ECSD is not the sour either. Shorelines work is working that out of there though for sure. The bro just sounds hostile, that’s his mo. Who knows about a guy called the weasel though. They all agreed he had the cut.
What would you consider the sour then? Everyone I know that grows regionally considers chacos ecsd to be "sour diesel". Chem 91? Chem 91 x mss? Shroomies Original diesel?

I've smoked out heads from icmag, the cut I had/currently have has never gotten a "this isn't sour diesel" because we all got it from the consensus source of sour diesel.

AJ had the cut. That doesn't mean the cut that is labeled AJs currently is the same, shit happens. If AJ is such a good grower and made his diesel take 2 weeks less over the period of a couple decades why haven't we given him haze to "fix" for us in the past 15 years? We'd have 10 week nld plants by now!
 
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Bakersfield

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Brain fart - do you think undetected ‘hop latent viroid’ could make a plant more prone to intersex trait expression?
It could even make them more susceptible to other infections like root rot & PM.
What do you think?
So I have found that dudded plants usually have a fungal or bacterial infection that run up the center of the stalk.
The branches on dudded plants will break away with ease from the stem then you'll see the infection inside.
Pipsweed on IG studied his dudded plants for some time a few years ago, trying to figure out what was going on, before the Hop Latent Virus was linked to dudding.
He found tiny nematodes crawling up the insides of his dudded plants as well.
 

oswizzle

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So I have found that dudded plants usually have a fungal or bacterial infection that run up the center of the stalk.
The branches on dudded plants will break away with ease from the stem then you'll see the infection inside.
Pipsweed on IG studied his dudded plants for some time a few years ago, trying to figure out what was going on, before the Hop Latent Virus was linked to dudding.
He found tiny nematodes crawling up the insides of his dudded plants as well.
I was the first to make the stem nematode discovery it was documented on IC and others tried it later and found the same issue.... nobody has put in more work on dudding than yours truely b4 it became mainstream... its basically me vs everyone on ICmag calling me crazy .. i had to put sam the skunkman in his place over it and the thread got locked up... i put up tons of peer reviewed journals and my own photos... this info is like a decade old
 

Bakersfield

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I was the first to make the stem nematode discovery it was documented on IC and others tried it later and found the same issue.... nobody has put in more work on dudding than yours truely b4 it became mainstream... its basically me vs everyone on ICmag calling me crazy .. i had to put sam the skunkman in his place over it and the thread got locked up... i put up tons of peer reviewed journals and my own photos... this info is like a decade old
Well, you were the one to point out my dudded Fatso cut, which screwed up my entire garden.
You certainly know what's up.

Do you believe the nematodes are a carrier of the virus, or maybe there is no virus?
You should PM me your user name over there, I would like to learn more.
 

colocowboy

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What would you consider the sour then? Everyone I know that grows regionally considers chacos ecsd to be "sour diesel". Chem 91? Chem 91 x mss? Shroomies Original diesel?

I've smoked out heads from icmag, the cut I had/currently have has never gotten a "this isn't sour diesel" because we all got it from the consensus source of sour diesel.

AJ had the cut. That doesn't mean the cut that is labeled AJs currently is the same, shit happens. If AJ is such a good grower and made his diesel take 2 weeks less over the period of a couple decades why haven't we given him haze to "fix" for us in the past 15 years? We'd have 10 week nld plants by now!
Because ecsd is an out cross from dr green thumb. It’s a fairly close representation. I would consider sour diesel to be real, lol because it’s a cut too. It’s still just not a widely circulated plant. It’s just always been coveted.
 
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quiescent

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Because ecsd is an out cross from dr green thumb. It’s a fairly close representation. I would consider sour diesel to be real, lol because it’s a cut too. It’s still just not a widely circulated plant. It’s just always been coveted.
ECSD is absolutely not an outcross from Dr GT. He made s1s with it. ECSD was being worked by rez before Dr GT even sold seeds.

ECSD is the real sour. EC was added because there was a different diesel out west going around in the overgrow/cc days, to differentiate.

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I'm sure that the cut I got a decade ago is one set of hands removed from Chaco. I gave it to a friend to hold while I got a new spot lined up. He tried giving it back to me with thrips so I hit up shoreline.

The second I looked at the fans and petiole color on the snips I got from Shoreline I was 99% sure its the same. Then it took 10 days to shoot 3 bullshit wispy root hairs, I knew 100%.

I've met a fair number of the frequent posters in the ECSD thread at an event in 2013 or 2014. There were a few people that would draw crowds today just chillin, not worried about wearing branded hats and shit like they do now.

If what we all call sour d isn't sour d, it makes me question what I've been doing with my life lol.
 
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