Coco potting up
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Still treating it like soil. I don't worry about the relative weight of my pots. I water daily, others water more.
Doug Dawson
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People seem to mess that up too often. If the pot was still saturated it would just take less to get decent runoff, that's a good thing. I never lift my pots of coco since I water once or twice a day.
ninja1
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I was only wanting the pots to get bit light at the start. I have to admit I am new to trying to treat coco actually like coco. I suppose I need to grow a pair of balls and just go for it lol . Where I have been used to treating it like soil I am still holding back. Honestly I used to wait for the pots to be much lighter than I have been this time round.
I had a plant in it's first pot that I was watering daily regardless of how heavy it was until run off. I gotta say it didn't go droopy ever but I thought the roots didn't look as if they was that great. Mind you this was a plant which I had pressed the coco down on so was a mistake tbh which could have been the reason.
Like I say I think I need to grow some balls and just go for it lol .
I was seeing that with the plant I mentioned above. I didn't lift it or fuck all, just every day watered until run off. It did make me think though, you see people talking about giving a plant 2litres a day ect. Yet I am getting run off by adding next to nothing. I am guessing over time you will need to add more and more to get run off as the roots start to develop and drink more? Common sense really that it would be the cause. Like I say that plant I tried it on though I had pressed the coco down way to hard. I think that certainly had an impact. Next time round though I am going to go this way with them and just water regardless until run off each day.
Treesomewanted77
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There is a group on FB called 19-4-23 and the moderator uses sunshine mix #4 advanced and feeds 3 times a day with 20% runoff and says if he using any other brand of coco he gets gnats but I have ran the 19-4-23 in cloud coir and when I transplant I put some mykos in the hole before I plant it and just water it in good and rarely ever water to runoff and works great no transplant shock and haven’t had any issues with salt buildup yet and the 19-4-23 can be used at full strength from start to finish.
Star Dog
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How long have you used it in your current grow?
ninja1
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Dunno why that's quoted me as I'd I said it.
Star Dog
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My mistake, apologies.
ninja1
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I am right in thinking over time the plant drinks more so requires more for run off each day? By the time you flip them into flower how much are you usually giving them and in what size pot?
Doug Dawson
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Yes you are correct they will keep needing more as they grow. Both due to root population and because they need more feed to do their magic. My last run was in 5 gallon fabric pots, 4 plants and I used about 20 gallons per week.
ninja1
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Ahh you Americans and your gallons rather than litres lol . Thanks for the reply though. I am gonna get more brave and try it this way with a freebie next grow.
I am already watering way more often and feel a lot more confident to do so. Just need that final push I guess to say fuck it n give it a try. The plant I was watering like how you describe never suffered any issues. Just thought roots wasn't looking the best. That's probably more to do with me pressing down the coco to much though than anything else.
I have used drippers before n they'd water every day and plants end up absolutely fine. Course over time they start needing more feeds per day. So just proves what your saying your method is.
Gonna give me a feed again today when the lights go on. Bit of nitrogen toxicity again as was stupid n too keen with the feed. Never had the issue ever then had it twice back to back now lol should know better. Anyway light feed n they'll come round.
MickFoster
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That's soil mentality.
If letting it get dry helps the roots grow by making them search for water..........what about DWC?
The roots are submerged in water and they seem to grow just fine.
Another myth.
ninja1
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Old habits die hard I guess lol . I have got to the stage where I am watering WAYYYY more heavier than I have in the past. Next seeds I'm gonna do as you lot have suggested and water till run off from day one regardless of how the coco is looking. Things have 100% got better since not pressing the coco down to hard and watering a lot more often.
My friend waters his every day or two. As he doesn't grow where he lives so guess sometimes life's busy n can't visit daily. He actually never waters to run off. Never had any issues but know it can cause salt build up. Dunno why he doesn't but just never does. In fact he has been in bigger pots n gives them less than I've given mine in smaller at times. Whatever works for him though I'm gonna stick with the watering till run off.
Like I say bit of nitrogen toxicity going on. So gonna give them a light mix of nutes and slowly build that up. Think I will flip these in next two weeks.
Treesomewanted77
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I have been using those nutrients for 2yrs now and I use it on everything indoors and outdoor hydro/coco/soil it works great
Star Dog
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Do you find it necessary to feed until run off?
Treesomewanted77
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Nope I just water ad would soil little bit everyday or 2 but probably could up the yield if I did water to runoff
Shadow8049
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Only 19-4-23 nutrient the full run
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Treesomewanted77
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Is that you Denny?
Shadow8049
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Yep!