First Time Shroom Grower PF-Tek

[misterdogman]

thanks misterdogman

ive eaten fresh shrooms a few times, never enjoyed it but managed to get them down the hatch
i would rather eat them dry but time is of the essence..i would like to trip tomorrow and then wait like a week and do it again hopefully with some dry shrooms

how about dosage, whats average? will it be enough for me and my girl to have a decent trip..if we each eat 13gs wet? maybe i should pick a few more

Well assuming it was equiv to 1.3 then maybe. I have the Lipa Yai strain supposedly one of the strongest cubensis,... and Ive had dudes around 160-200lbs split 3.5 and say the were like out of their minds...But I re read your thread and couldnt find what strain your growing, if its B+ or some other run of mill strain not super potent and your over say 180 Id think 13 wet would barely be a body buzz,

but this is coming from me who has a problem getting off on shrooms period some people are very succeptable to small doses and others can talk themself out of it...Ive done it with 3gms plus and not felt anything but mad... because my enviroment changed and killed my buzz...other times alone I got off on 3 or less...Also take in consideration of phenotypes, since your using a multispore syringe your going to get some weak some stronger and some the strongest for that species. Unless your using an isolate your not gonna have every shroom be as strong as the other...

Theres always a chance you randomly ate all the stronger ones and felt great and your old lady ate some weaker and didnt...so I guess try it or wait til next flush and dry them all out and really enjoy...

 

[jollygreengiant8]

im growing B+, in the past when ive eaten shrooms i normally end up waiting around for the effects and start to think things like i didnt eat enough or its not working but then it hits me like a fucking train.

i read your earlier post about isolates but it was over my head..so im getting all kinds of different phenos..is this why some are mutated and ugly and some are completely normal looking?

anyway, my lady wants to eat this shit bad..i want to, but id rather wait until their dry..but like i said time is of the essence since we will be going out of town for thanksgiving and spending time with our families...we are trying to get 2 trips in before we are leaving.

 

[misterdogman]

im growing B+, in the past when ive eaten shrooms i normally end up waiting around for the effects and start to think things like i didnt eat enough or its not working but then it hits me like a fucking train.

i read your earlier post about isolates but it was over my head..so im getting all kinds of different phenos..is this why some are mutated and ugly and some are completely normal looking?

anyway, my lady wants to eat this shit bad..i want to, but id rather wait until their dry..but like i said time is of the essence since we will be going out of town for thanksgiving and spending time with our families...we are trying to get 2 trips in before we are leaving.

yeah, isolates can be aquired several ways. You can take a perfect looking shroom based off pheno and take a biopsy from its insides and then gro this on agar or in some honey or karo water or even sugar in the raw which I like. 5 packets to 500gms water PC for 20 mins and innoculate with biopsy.
Or you can do like either do a blind myc pull, or not blind, basically youll see the rhizomorphic or tomentose growth, Rhizo being the long aggressive strands tomentose being the more circular cottony growth...
take a strand of the rhizo mycelium out of you jar or even a tub/fc you got going and put into culture. When it grows big enough syphon into needle and inject into grain...then when colonized you spawn and will notice more similar potent fruits that look more similar more homozygous. Because you greatly reduced the genetic in that strand and took out a lot of the variance. You can then test these and go from there refining your strain and eventually having tubs of fruits pretty damn close in size shape and potency all similar height and genetics...but of course eventually it will degrade due to lack of diversity...fun to play with though

 

[jollygreengiant8]

i picked everything off the 2 cakes and got right at about 60gs all together
i chopped all of these up into tiny pieces
me and my girl split them and put them on PB&Js and managed to get them down
now we are on the follow up bong session and feeling starting to feel pretty weird
that familiar feeling is sinking in

 

[dangreen]

Haha nice bro tell us about your Trip when you get back

 

[misterdogman]

hell yeah , update us man! hope you smile and feel luscious!

 

[Thundercat]

Lol hope you had fun JG, can't wait to hear about it. How was the PB&J, I would have never thought to put mushrooms on that. Thats why I chose burgers, it just seemed natural. Anyway look forward to the trip report!!

 

[jollygreengiant8]

holy shit!

ive tripped before, but never like that..

we each made 2 magic PB&Js..we each could only get down about 1 and a half
the crunchy peanut butter masked the taste and texture of the shrooms well although some of the middle bites seemed to be nothing but shrooms..we started taking small bites and swallowing it with a sip of water..once we decided we couldnt do anymore, we smoked a bowl and i told you guys what was going on..about the time the bowl was cashed we both were starting to feel good.

We went to the front porch because my girl bought a firelog, and stuff to make semores and hotdogs. I dropped the firelog in the bbq pit and when i did the sound was really loud and it sent a crazy sensation all over my body (almost like a hit of electricity, almost momentarily paralyzing) and then i just busted out laughing. That is the point when things skyrocketed and i have to say ive never explored my mind or inner thoughts like that before, it was crazy and weird and pretty confusing i dont know how else to describe any of it. Well that crazy shit went on for a while and me and my girl were pretty much in our own worlds unable to really communicate to each other. Once we came out of the deep intense part of the trip the visuals appeared and were fucking amazing..never had visuals that..visual. We had Tool playing all night and i was getting lost in the lamp shade seeing faces and all kinds of colors and shit and my girl was lost in the curtains and blinds and the lines on the wall and ceiling..it was pretty cool..i kept feeling as if my body weighed significantly more, like my legs were noodles and my head was swinging around all over the place like my neck had given up..i layed on the floor with the dogs at one point and melted into the carpet basically

and semores are not a good idea when youre fucked up...i got pieces of graham cracker and sticky ass marshmallow fluff everywhere

i dunked the 2 cakes last night, i will roll later tonight and put them back in fc
the cake still in the fc has a few really nice shrooms on it

 

[dangreen]

Sounds like a good trip awesome story.

 

[misterdogman]

Im so happy for you jolly, man its sure is awesome to produce your own adventure isnt it? Im really glad you both had such an awesome time....
now just imagine where the hobby will go from here for you...the sky is the limit.

 

[jollygreengiant8]

hey thanks guys! happy you enjoyed the story
yeah its fucking great to grow your own shit..id rather wait on my shit to grow than wait on some sketchy fuck to call back or come through..hell that takes longer than growing your own stash sometimes.

so im thinking about where i might want to take this project..
liquid cultures sound promising..along with casings..wbs seems the path i should take.
Id also like to try my hand at getting something to grow outside..in my yard or secluded spot of woods.

any ideas or links to something helpful would be appreciated.

side note: dunked and rolled both cakes and they are back in fc
and i think i want to take a spore print of that big cap

 

[Thundercat]

Thats great man, just caught up. Sounds like a great hard trip. I've only had a couple I'd put at that level. I can't wait to get some more shroomies. Its been so loooong. It looks like things have really come around for you man. Those cakes are really going now.

If your looking towards new ideas for the future, I think the birdseed casings might be the way to look. Seems like a huge yield, and pretty damn easy to do.

I need some shrooms, I miss them so much. Its been a long 9 months!!!

 

[misterdogman]

hey thanks guys! happy you enjoyed the story
yeah its fucking great to grow your own shit..id rather wait on my shit to grow than wait on some sketchy fuck to call back or come through..hell that takes longer than growing your own stash sometimes.

so im thinking about where i might want to take this project..
liquid cultures sound promising..along with casings..wbs seems the path i should take.
Id also like to try my hand at getting something to grow outside..in my yard or secluded spot of woods.

any ideas or links to something helpful would be appreciated.

side note: dunked and rolled both cakes and they are back in fc
and i think i want to take a spore print of that big cap

hey man yeah, I still do it for the hobby even though I dont eat them.
I posted several things here from shroomery.org to try to help but of course they got modified. I wasnt trying to plagerize just educate and it seems many dont know where to find info and actually its kinda hard to learn there.
I didnt figure it would be made into a big deal, Jeez half the pot threads here came from other sites or are quotes of someone elses work...WTF they dont get modified
But long story short myclogy is a super cool hobby, actually it will teach you a lot about several things. My family hasnt been sick with flu or chest colds or ANYTHING since I started doing research on shrooms several years ago, reason?
Fresh air exchange, antibacterial conditons, requirments for contamination...
The rubbing alcohol and hydrogen and supplies got to be apart of my everyday life. because of the fact mushrooms respond and grow under the same conditions as things that make you sick...its so interesting.
But seriously, I suggest you keep up on it. I would take the next step to grain. Man im telling you if you have been this sucessful in the PF thing once you go millet and Hpoo youll be like WTF PF TEK is NOT easier.
I dont want to look like some loon or mushroom god, there is some guys at shroomery who are like PROFESSIONALs.
I am just now feeling confident in what I have learned over the years. But if you want to take a step up and do some cool stuff Ill not only give you some tips but I got some isolates and cultures I dont even plan on using right away. might as well not let them waste right?
So you know if your ever interested... im an honest man and would hook you up with some and help you just to pass it forward, so when your ready and want to go grain lemme know and youll see results and wall to wall flushes like never before. Shite you already got a PC your 99% there

just a suggestion you can tell me to eff off for all I care but I think more people need to be interested in natural GOD given things and stay true to nature not synthetics.. We got so much to learn and nobody seems to want to give it a go, so if your game like a gamedog lemme know and we'll do it.

I think your shrooms and ur reactions to them were spot on and A+ you did a good job bro.

 

[jollygreengiant8]

right on misterdogman

sometimes i feel there are few things that interest me..but growing different things that i can use and that i enjoy are definitely interesting

i want to go to grain, all the pictures ive seen from casings are just amazing
and im happy to have experienced people along to help guide me
and im all about the natural things in life..hell i dont even like to take a tylenol for a headache, ill just deal..or smoke a bowl

but that would be sweet if you could hook me up with some tips and even a culture or something..im appreciative of whatever you want to offer
ill probably toss these cakes after this flush and after thanksgiving the other 5 jars should be colonized so they will go into the fc..then i will be getting ready for my progression into grain and hopefully be successful


Thundercat..jump on board and grow some shrooms, youll be tripping in no time!!

 

[misterdogman]

right on misterdogman

sometimes i feel there are few things that interest me..but growing different things that i can use and that i enjoy are definitely interesting

i want to go to grain, all the pictures ive seen from casings are just amazing
and im happy to have experienced people along to help guide me
and im all about the natural things in life..hell i dont even like to take a tylenol for a headache, ill just deal..or smoke a bowl

but that would be sweet if you could hook me up with some tips and even a culture or something..im appreciative of whatever you want to offer
ill probably toss these cakes after this flush and after thanksgiving the other 5 jars should be colonized so they will go into the fc..then i will be getting ready for my progression into grain and hopefully be successful


Thundercat..jump on board and grow some shrooms, youll be tripping in no time!!

Yeah, spread the fungus man....its the fruit of GOD.

Whenever your ready we wil get this ball rolling, I think it might be hard to find millet or rye this time of year but there is prolly WBS....just gotta remove the Sunflower seeds which is a bitch.

But anyhow the strain I got guaranteed isolates off of is Lipa Yai....look it up. Supposedly one of the most potent cubensis, and VERY contam resistant. I actually purposefully contamed this shit with some Trich in a coffee container and it ATE the trich...totally colonized it. Good strain.

But this isolate is insane, I promise one day youll see, all shrooms look like the same shroom...very solid phenos and potency...just recently I gave some to a friend WET...like 1 OZ and he swears he went out with several chicks and other people and fed them all some like a few shrooms a piece and they all tripped ....placebo or not I was gleaming off the report i got back because I didnt want to let them go wet ...free or not id cry if I got a bad report.

Look for some grain and mason Quart jars and tyvek.....and when your ready ill send you some mycelium culture and spore syringes to a safe addy of your choosing...for free of course, Ill even pay shipping on my end when I send it...
just so you can compare the isolate to the multispore syringe.

Then We will walk thru some steps to get it going, Ill enjoy just doing it for the goal of seeing someone grow my isolate somewhere else and knowing it is good shit....

Thats what I enjoy about them now, funny that I dont even eat them, I just enjoy them in my presence and I talk to them....yeah Im effing koo-koo...lol.

 

[Thundercat]

I can't wait to get another mushroom grow going. I'm about to start my new ganja grow this week. Once I get that settled in , and I have the money I'm definitely gonna start some shrooms again.

 

[Kushcrosser]

You can get Tyvek for free! Go to the USPS website, give em your info and they will send you 10 LARGE envelopes in the mail. FREE!!! Or you can go to the post office and pick em up.

 

[jollygreengiant8]

Yeah, spread the fungus man....its the fruit of GOD.

Whenever your ready we wil get this ball rolling, I think it might be hard to find millet or rye this time of year but there is prolly WBS....just gotta remove the Sunflower seeds which is a bitch.

But anyhow the strain I got guaranteed isolates off of is Lipa Yai....look it up. Supposedly one of the most potent cubensis, and VERY contam resistant. I actually purposefully contamed this shit with some Trich in a coffee container and it ATE the trich...totally colonized it. Good strain.

But this isolate is insane, I promise one day youll see, all shrooms look like the same shroom...very solid phenos and potency...just recently I gave some to a friend WET...like 1 OZ and he swears he went out with several chicks and other people and fed them all some like a few shrooms a piece and they all tripped ....placebo or not I was gleaming off the report i got back because I didnt want to let them go wet ...free or not id cry if I got a bad report.

Look for some grain and mason Quart jars and tyvek.....and when your ready ill send you some mycelium culture and spore syringes to a safe addy of your choosing...for free of course, Ill even pay shipping on my end when I send it...
just so you can compare the isolate to the multispore syringe.

Then We will walk thru some steps to get it going, Ill enjoy just doing it for the goal of seeing someone grow my isolate somewhere else and knowing it is good shit....

Thats what I enjoy about them now, funny that I dont even eat them, I just enjoy them in my presence and I talk to them....yeah Im effing koo-koo...lol.

dammit..i thought i read somewhere about separating the birdseed, oh well me and my girl will get down on some sunflower seeds and pick them out like seeds in my weed
ive already got quart jars, but not sure where to get tyvek

i will research these Lipa Yai shrooms and isolates once i get done with my wake and bake

and i feel you on being crushed if someone ate my shrooms and had to give me a bad report..i dont think i would be able to give anyone anymore of my shrooms

anyway i got up today and looked at my shrooms and fuck they blew up over night and threw spores everywhere so i picked most of them and left a few small ones on the cake to keep growing. its pretty crazy to watch these things grow.

misterdogman, keep in touch my friend..this sounds like a fun adventure

 

[misterdogman]

dammit..i thought i read somewhere about separating the birdseed, oh well me and my girl will get down on some sunflower seeds and pick them out like seeds in my weed
ive already got quart jars, but not sure where to get tyvek

i will research these Lipa Yai shrooms and isolates once i get done with my wake and bake

and i feel you on being crushed if someone ate my shrooms and had to give me a bad report..i dont think i would be able to give anyone anymore of my shrooms

anyway i got up today and looked at my shrooms and fuck they blew up over night and threw spores everywhere so i picked most of them and left a few small ones on the cake to keep growing. its pretty crazy to watch these things grow.

misterdogman, keep in touch my friend..this sounds like a fun adventure

Fed Ex envelopes are a cheap or free source of tyvek but 3 layer paint suits from lowes r better...not to expensive like 3-7 bux for several which last forever.

And hell yeah man the first time when I did a monotub I saw my first pinheads and primordia popping up and was like hell yeah a few days, and went to bed. NO the next mornign I had several that went from pea size little heads poking up to full size 4 inch tall fully open caps and all...its almost like you can watch them grow if you sit tehre for a while it goes that fast from nothing to a huge flush.....

Its funny because the first time I was going off the time frame of 2-3 weeks to see something....well 2.5 weeks passed and I was like WTF...thought I failed...well needless to say those last few days is when all the magic happened from nada to caps in what seemed like 3 days...

Yeah man Ill be in touch for sure and if ever you couldnt find me my yahoo is mymindsevilthoughts@yahoo and my myspace URL is the same as this screen name.

 

[Kushcrosser]

The easiest wat to get the sun flower seeds out is to put em in a big bowl or pot...add water and all the SFS float to the top.