Masonic Seeds

[Bodyne]

I just like to watch them both cry it makes my heart smile ! And to be perfectly honest with ya they right up their with the biggest Clown of them all Big Berner ! If you want some real gear try Relentless ,Crane ,Harry P, Sunken Treasure, Pheno Addicts , hell i grab cats from the site shit Stray, Briscoe, Genuity , before i wiped my Ass with Big Mase or Matty " What's RKS smell like again " Riot gear !

It makes you think, chemdog likes and follows berner, as does a lot of cats that aren't on here apparently. I don't care for matt, so I disregard what he says, don't buy his gear and don't miss it, and there's better fem juice out there, lol. Same with compound, on riu you'd think it was a step down, but on ig, he's mentioned as big times with big boys lot more than wyeast, just sayin. Lot o competition and collaboration goin on. Seen em bringing up the rez bust again, lol.somebody got hold of paper for sure, someone is a rat, etc, etc lol. Diff perspectives at diff places, you have to dig to find truth these days

 

[Dividedsky]

Its definitely not what is was at the start , Cap still posts more on IG than there...hah. Anyways, fuck masonic

I don't know much about masonic but I saw him on YouTube video talking with other growers and he looked like a fish out of water. They knew it. Seemed to me didn't know much about growing, even in simple terms.

 

[SundaeFloat88]

So...according to @SundaeFloat88 this is all due to the fact Oni was owed money? Really? For what, a website? You can't steal a website. It was owned by Speakeasy. Someone just didn't want to pay for the work.

.....and RICO? Over a dispute over a website? You know what RICO is right? That it threatens every breeder working with Speakeasy? That the document was redacted and was never serious cause it was simply a threat?

Yeah....the motivation behind people calling out that dude is racism....bwahahaha!

This sundae dude is what a big mase dick rider looks like....take a good look everyone

I want to publicly apologize to you. I was completely misinformed and after listening to the pot cast and the breeders syndicate I can clearly see the difference. In masonics own words he states he doesnt know shit about breeding and is literally just doing this to make money. Oni really is just riding that tropicana cookies of harry palms and that is a shame . These guys are straight con men .
Sorry for being a jackass Shawnekids
Fuck rats .. fuck masonic.. fuck that fool oni

 

[Dividedsky]

I want to publicly apologize to you. I was completely misinformed and after listening to the pot cast and the breeders syndicate I can clearly see the difference. In masonics own words he states he doesnt know shit about breeding and is literally just doing this to make money. Oni really is just riding that tropicana cookies of harry palms and that is a shame . These guys are straight con men .
Sorry for being a jackass Shawnekids
Fuck rats .. fuck masonic.. fuck that fool oni

I don't know about all the drama with rats etc, honestly could care less about some wanabe breeders trying to act like gangstas, that shit is just straight up lame. I just could tell masonic did not know shit about breeding, when I saw that vid. It was laughable when he was asked about breeding techniques he just starts swearing left and right saying, ya I'm a fucking pollen chucker, I don't think pollen chucking is a negative term. That's fine in all but don't act like your some hot shot breeder when you don't even know the simplest thing about plant sciences, and forget about testing. He's a back yard breeder chucking shit. Sure you can find something nice in a pack but why pay money when you can just chuck yourself and get better results than masonic.

 

[Shawnekids]

I want to publicly apologize to you. I was completely misinformed and after listening to the pot cast and the breeders syndicate I can clearly see the difference. In masonics own words he states he doesnt know shit about breeding and is literally just doing this to make money. Oni really is just riding that tropicana cookies of harry palms and that is a shame . These guys are straight con men .
Sorry for being a jackass Shawnekids
Fuck rats .. fuck masonic.. fuck that fool oni

It's all good man....that's why I'm here. I'm not all about the drama, I'm just here to help.

 

[Dividedsky]

It's all good man....that's why I'm here. I'm not all about the drama, I'm just here to help.

No worries if dudes like masonic are selling packs of beans I'm might have to tip my toes in seed game, I'm a master breeder compared to that guy lol.

 

[Shawnekids]

No worries if dudes like masonic are selling packs of beans I'm might have to tip my toes in seed game, I'm a master breeder compared to that guy lol.

There is a lot of people trying to cash in....and it makes having an understanding of genetics and the history of how we got here so important. I didn't really fully realize... until that last live...that NL never really existed pure with the exception of a few people a very long time ago. She is in a lot of what we know and played a huge role in modern stuff.....but how many people claim to be breeding with NL#5 right now? Going down that road leads you to making some conclusions.

We a want whatever "good" is, but having reasonable expectations of what something actually is....is important.

 

[Shawnekids]

This stuff....stealing and renaming and all the bullshit has always been happening. With the internet and podcasts....sharing information....we can start to put the puzzle together one piece at a time. Anyone that just gets angry and starts name calling and trolling when asked for details or some explanation of thier work isn't gonna hold up for much longer I hope.

Not to ruin peoples names, but to make the market and the current state of genetics more transparent.

 

[Dividedsky]

There is a lot of people trying to cash in....and it makes having an understanding of genetics and the history of how we got here so important. I didn't really fully realize... until that last live...that NL never really existed pure with the exception of a few people a very long time ago. She is in a lot of what we know and played a huge role in modern stuff.....but how many people claim to be breeding with NL#5 right now? Going down that road leads you to making some conclusions.

We a want whatever "good" is, but having reasonable expectations of what something actually is....is important.

Ya was actually thinking about Shanti from Mr Nice Seeds, that guy is a legit master breeder. I know he does not work the popular strains like gelatos and cookies but his understanding of breeding is on another level. Shantibaba is original for sure

 

[Satch12]

No worries if dudes like masonic are selling packs of beans I'm might have to tip my toes in seed game, I'm a master breeder compared to that guy lol.

lol you should do it. I remember when I was following him on ig he made a book talking about his “breeding” practices, looking back now must’ve literally just been a joke on his end to make money off the people that he’s duped into thinking he‘s legit...

 

[Shawnekids]

Yeah.....Idk if I would go as far as calling him a master breeder....but who can actually wear that title to begin with? He does have a large chunk of Neville's stock, and some stuff I would be interested to try....but he isn't working it that much.

 

[YardG]

Sorry to go semi offtopic on you guys, but that's one thing I really appreciate about The Pot Cast... as much as it makes me crazy sometimes that Heavy doesn't challenge people on things they say, in doing so he manages to draw people out and get them talking about their... "methods"... and... "breeding" philosophy. Definitely caught that in Masonic's interview but he's by no means the only person who's admitted to not testing their gear or that they've based their "claim to fame" lines off of one seed or selected out of a half-pack or whatnot.

 

[Shawnekids]

Sorry to go semi offtopic on you guys, but that's one thing I really appreciate about The Pot Cast... as much as it makes me crazy sometimes that Heavy doesn't challenge people on things they say, in doing so he manages to draw people out and get them talking about their... "methods"... and... "breeding" philosophy. Definitely caught that in Masonic's interview but he's by no means the only person who's admitted to not testing their gear or that they've based their "claim to fame" lines off of one seed or selected out of a half-pack or whatnot.

The potcast has turned into a joke...imho

 

[YardG]

I still listen, but it does seem like the caliber of the guests has been lacking of late, tbf I think it's always been mixed, I've just picked and chosen which ones to listen to and which to skip from past episodes. Can't say I've found anything else that's provided as many hours of entertainment (I usually listen while running or doing something else). Doesn't help that I'm usually bored to tears hearing about beefs between one person and another. In the end they all come off like jackasses.

 

[Dividedsky]

I still listen, but it does seem like the caliber of the guests has been lacking of late, tbf I think it's always been mixed, I've just picked and chosen which ones to listen to and which to skip from past episodes. Can't say I've found anything else that's provided as many hours of entertainment (I usually listen while running or doing something else). Doesn't help that I'm usually bored to tears hearing about beefs between one person and another. In the end they all come off like jackasses.

Ya I don't really listen to those podcasts, they kind of done on.. When I first started and started studying growing techniques in the early 2000s it's was the forums like overgrow that truly helped me gain priceless knowledge that made me become a better grower. Damn remember being so sketched out ordering my first beans from heavens stairways. It was a Dutch Passion strain, probably 02 or 03..

 

[BDGrows]

The most recent one with Chimera is actually decently informative. If anything, id listen to that 3-parter.

 

[Shawnekids]

The most recent one with Chimera is actually decently informative. If anything, id listen to that 3-parter.

It was ok...some of it bothered me....but I'm not a big AG fan and his work is more geared towards being a supermarket type producer.

The redemption for skunkman sam was.....interesting. I don't buy it, and stories are just stories. I wouldn't consider any of factual....it's just what Dave told Ryan.

 

[BDGrows]

It was ok...some of it bothered me....but I'm not a big AG fan and his work is more geared towards being a supermarket type producer.

The redemption for skunkman sam was.....interesting. I don't buy it, and stories are just stories. I wouldn't consider any of factual....it's just what Dave told Ryan.

I liked it in the aspect of he is an actual scientist and the point he makes about terpene profiles and other stuff I appreciated and also thought was good. As for the whole skunk man stories and all that, I have no idea what is true and what isn't so I kinda tuned those parts out and waited till he got back to the science.

 

[Shawnekids]

I liked it in the aspect of he is an actual scientist and the point he makes about terpene profiles and other stuff I appreciated and also thought was good. As for the whole skunk man stories and all that, I have no idea what is true and what isn't so I kinda tuned those parts out and waited till he got back to the science.

Well....the way I am seeing things right now is that pretty much everything seen as elite has been happy accidents and not breeding....not to mention herm prone due to that fact. I mean, the way SkunkVa expresses the plant doing it's thing and using us for survival is way more my speed. The legalization aspect using science kinda kills it for me. Bagseed is the least scientific method there is, but kinda defined greatness.

 

[BDGrows]

Well....the way I am seeing things right now is that pretty much everything seen as elite has been happy accidents and not breeding....not to mention herm prone due to that fact. I mean, the way SkunkVa expresses the plant doing it's thing and using us for survival is way more my speed. The legalization aspect using science kinda kills it for me. Bagseed is the least scientific method there is, but kinda defined greatness.

I mean happy accidents are what have caused some of the most well-known strains to come about; even in the scientific realm serendipity has for sure advanced science. Look at penicillin or in the cannabis aspect, cookies. I agree that his viewpoints are much more catered to a large conglomerate aspect as well as "big ag", but I think it's the right step forward. There will always be a place at the table for artisan breeders I believe (ie Bodhi, CSI, Archive, etc) but it should help weed out the people who are simply in it to make money, I believe at least.