Nirvana PPP and Snow White Grow (First try)

cluch

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nice grow, just wondering if you were satisfied with the seeds you bought at nirv.. and did you have any worries about not recieving them in the u.s
 

Abnjm

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Have you got a fresh flypaper?

Maybe you should change it out so you can see easy if they are still there.

Glad to hear they are on the retreat. I'll be bongsmilie
Excellent idea. Just put a fresh one on the hydroton under the plants. The body count on the other three has not changed.

I hope I'm back in business.
 

Abnjm

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nice grow, just wondering if you were satisfied with the seeds you bought at nirv.. and did you have any worries about not recieving them in the u.s
I'm in the midwest USA. I ordered my Nirvana seeds on 09/04 and received them 09/22. I germed all four seeds within 3 days, and they seem to be growing pretty well.

I was very worried about not receiving them. Everytime I read a post asking about delivery times, I laugh and remember the angst I had. I recommend sparking one and relaxing. They will come.......

I will buy from Nirvana again.
 

Abnjm

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Great looking grow...
How about some updated pics :joint:
Haven't seen a gnat all day. I think my light is too close to the top bud (45" tall), but I really don't have any more vertical space. I'm going to snug the light to the top of the tent, and start pulling on the main cola over tonight.

PPP:


Biggest PPP bud:


Bagseed:
 

kpw555

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Looking good man!

Glad to hear the little bastages are dying en mass.

Did you pull the highest cola down?
 

kpw555

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I'm in the midwest USA. I ordered my Nirvana seeds on 09/04 and received them 09/22. I germed all four seeds within 3 days, and they seem to be growing pretty well.

I was very worried about not receiving them. Everytime I read a post asking about delivery times, I laugh and remember the angst I had. I recommend sparking one and relaxing. They will come.......

I will buy from Nirvana again.
My grow is all Nirvana as well, they will come through for you.:blsmoke:
 

Abnjm

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Looking good man!

Glad to hear the little bastages are dying en mass.

Did you pull the highest cola down?
Haven't seen a live gnat in two days...... I'll use the goGnat in my res going forward.

The tallest cola appears to have stopped the vertical growth. I raised the light yesterday morning, and the top didn't appear any closer when I put them to bed for the night. I'm really nervous about screwing with the top of the plant 3 weeks into flower. We'll see where I'm at when I check the res this a.m.
 

Abnjm

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Main cola is still at the same height as yesterday. Leaves are a bit burnt, res looks like a toxic soup, and some of the plant's leaves are looking a bit curled. I think the cedar oil has gummed up the pump and I don't think the tray is flooding completely while it's on for 15 minutes. Manually flooded the tray and held for 15 minutes, did my best to clean the pump out inside the res....

I'll do a res change first thing Saturday morning. Pinched the main cola in two places to slow down the growth.

I knew this shit was coming along too well..... :wall:
 

BigBud992

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Hey, how did u "pinch" the main cola? I think I might have the same problem with my PPP girls. My flower room still isn't ready to go, and my girls are starting to take off a bit in veg....they've been goin for a solid 46 day or so now.
 

Abnjm

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Hey, how did u "pinch" the main cola? I think I might have the same problem with my PPP girls. My flower room still isn't ready to go, and my girls are starting to take off a bit in veg....they've been goin for a solid 46 day or so now.
I just squeezed the stem below the cola until it popped. It's supposed to divert some energy from the vertical growth, and increase the amount of nutes passing through the stem after it repairs itself. I probably should have done it earlier....
 

Abnjm

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Hopefully that doesn't stress your plant to hermie.
I hope so too. I only pinched it enough to hear the snap. The stem itself is still straight. I also did it to my bagseed plant and they've stayed female.

I've got bigger problems anyways. The new growth started to curl this morning after I sprayed with pyrethrin and used the goGnats two days ago. When I checked the res this morning there was a layer of scum on the top and you could really smell the cedar. I drained the res and cleaned the nasty, nasty pumps. Filled the res with 10 gallons pH'd tap, 20ml H2O2 (35%) and 70ml of Clearex. Flooded for 15 minutes and drained. I will flood again one hour before lights out and then drain the res. I will re-fill with the GH "Bloom" just before lights out. In addition I foliar fed 0.5ml of SuperThrive to the bottom of the leaves.

I knew this shit was coming along too smoothly.....:wall:
 

Abnjm

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how does the res look today after cleaning?:joint:
After the emergency crap I did on Friday, I did not check the plants or res on Saturday. I didn't want to keep on chasing problems when my fixes hadn't taken effect yet.

Opened the tent this morning, and the res was clean and 2 gallons low. Added one gallon of "Bloom" and one gallon of DW. 10 ml of pH down to a EC 2.3 / 1150ppm, 5.8 pH. I'm glad to see the res drop, as the plants weren't drinking at all prior to the flush and res change. Most of the damaged leaves are getting greener, and starting to flatten out.

I think the problem I had has seriously affected my bud development, and my dreams of 2 oz a plant are not going to come true. :wall:

I'll do better during my next grow....:blsmoke:
 

kpw555

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After the emergency crap I did on Friday, I did not check the plants or res on Saturday. I didn't want to keep on chasing problems when my fixes hadn't taken effect yet.

Opened the tent this morning, and the res was clean and 2 gallons low. Added one gallon of "Bloom" and one gallon of DW. 10 ml of pH down to a EC 2.3 / 1150ppm, 5.8 pH. I'm glad to see the res drop, as the plants weren't drinking at all prior to the flush and res change. Most of the damaged leaves are getting greener, and starting to flatten out.

I think the problem I had has seriously affected my bud development, and my dreams of 2 oz a plant are not going to come true. :wall:

I'll do better during my next grow....:blsmoke:

That bites dude. Maybe it won't hurt them that bad since you got on it quick.
 

BigBud992

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yo A-b.....ok I have a problem with my ebb n flow. I have my reservoir right under the table, and i have 2 lines....1 for the pump and another for the return/safety flood line. Now, I thought when the pump turned off that the water would also drain back down from the pump line.....but its not. I completely forgot about that...pumps aren't made to have water drain back down into/thru them...are they? Now, I think that if I just add another drain line to the table that MIGHT work...but probably not with my current pump (it doesnt fill fast enough)...but I do think I have another (bigger) pump. What do u think??
 

Abnjm

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yo A-b.....ok I have a problem with my ebb n flow. I have my reservoir right under the table, and i have 2 lines....1 for the pump and another for the return/safety flood line. Now, I thought when the pump turned off that the water would also drain back down from the pump line.....but its not. I completely forgot about that...pumps aren't made to have water drain back down into/thru them...are they? Now, I think that if I just add another drain line to the table that MIGHT work...but probably not with my current pump (it doesnt fill fast enough)...but I do think I have another (bigger) pump. What do u think??
Kumar, the water will backflow through the pump. At least that's how it works on my system. I flood for 15 minutes because that's the shortest period of time available on my timer. After about 5 minutes of running, the nutes fill the tray to over flow. The pump continues to run for another 10 minutes, with the liquid flowing out of the overflow and back into the res. When the pump stops, the remaining nutes flow down through the pump and back into the rez.

If you are not getting the drainage you expect, I'd clean your pump to make sure there isn't a lot of crap building up on the inside. I clean my pumps every time I change the res. This include a quick teardown and work over with a toothbrush. I then run them for about 30 minutes in fresh water to make sure all the gunk is out.
 

Abnjm

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Whats up Ab? How are the girls dude? I hope all is well in Ab land. Any pics today?


:peace:bro
I wanted to just forget about my cedar oil screw up, but I guess I'd better get some pics on line to document the problems:

Tallest COLA:

Close Up:


Other COLA:


Athough they are still curled, they are still flexible and not crispy. I hope they will self-repair.

Main body buds:




Bagseed:



There were two causes to my problem. I think I hit the plants directly with the pyrethrin spray which caused some burns and brown spots on the leaves. In addition, I think I overdid the cedar oil which caused a major change in fluid and nutrient uptake in the plants. I want to give them a few days to recover before I try to fix and lockout issues.

So damn close!!!!:wall:
 

kpw555

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Just a little hitch in your git along Ab. Doesn't look too bad to me, like a decent harvest is possible.
 
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