Super soil /organic nutes

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Herb potman

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Hey all
Iam using gh flora series in ffof and having a bit of trouble here and there I red that if I use organic soil like ffof that I shud be using an organic nute line aswell. I heard easier and less chance for burn since Iam feeding the soil and not the plants. Is organic easier for rookies and can anyone reccomend a good easy organic nute line for beginners that is guna use a super soil like fox farm ( I wanted to use fox farm but hard to get in Canada ) please help out a rookie ?
 
Wattzzup

Wattzzup

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Herb potman said:
Hey all
Iam using gh flora series in ffof and having a bit of trouble here and there I red that if I use organic soil like ffof that I shud be using an organic nute line aswell. I heard easier and less chance for burn since Iam feeding the soil and not the plants. Is organic easier for rookies and can anyone reccomend a good easy organic nute line for beginners that is guna use a super soil like fox farm ( I wanted to use fox farm but hard to get in Canada ) please help out a rookie ?
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You can just top dress your FFOF with organic amendments. You may have to do some googling. I use 4-4-4. You should be able to get Gaia Green
 
JoeBlow5823

JoeBlow5823

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Herb potman said:
Those look amazing. Do u go 1 water 1 feed ? And Iam in ffof with autos. Are those autos ?
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lol no those are photos. 4 of them. in 20 gallon pots. in a 5x5. i feed every water which was every 6-7 days but the last week or two has gone up to every 4 days. 3-4 gallons per plant. soil is a mix of 1/3 roots organic, 1/3 something like ffof, and 1/3 perlite. plus some worm poop.
 
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Herb potman

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JoeBlow5823 said:
lol no those are photos. 4 of them. in 20 gallon pots. in a 5x5. i feed every water which was every 6-7 days but the last week or two has gone up to every 4 days. 3-4 gallons per plant. soil is a mix of 1/3 roots organic, 1/3 something like ffof, and 1/3 perlite. plus some worm poop.
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Because i am just starting I don’t want to mix my own soil just yet. Is there a premade soil u reccomend
 
Richard Drysift

Richard Drysift

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It helps to have an understanding of what the term organic really means. There are soluble liquid organic fertilizers that are safe for living soils but most 2 part nutrient lines are not. GH flora is synthetic; made of dissolved salts that will slowly kill off the microbes that feed plants naturally. Nothing wrong with using synth nutes but for most growers by the time you get into organics you have already been through a few grows with them. Nutrients are an easy way to get started but that’s also why you see so many plants w/issues around here.
Organic soil is typically for the advanced class but you can always just give in and use nutrients; just less of them. The reason many of us switched over to living soil is because using heavy nutrients can affect the taste of the bud. The idea with organics is to put everything into the soil before there are plants; then just water as needed. Simple? yes but deceptively so; more to it than it seems.
Just plain old water will work well for a long time especially with a decent mix like ocean forest. To prolong the life of your mix and sustain plants over the long term add a slow release fertilizer input or two, a form of compost (worm castings) and transplant as needed. You can keep it even simpler than that and just use your soil as it is until your plants begin to fade and then begin giving nutrients. You could get into mid-late veg or early bloom phase with just soil and water. Learn about how to amend the soil in the meantime. There’s all kinds of ways to get where you want to go; might be best to go with what you feel comfortable with for now as you aquire exp and knowledge for the next level.
 
JoeBlow5823

JoeBlow5823

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Herb potman said:
WHen do u dial in your gh at what amounts. When u know soil nutes depleted
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organic soil has a lot of nutes already in it so i go by a general rule of use 25-50% of what GH recommends to use on their chart. So say im mixing 10 gallons of water- i add nutrients as if im using 2.5-5 gallons of water depending on how the plants look. I start feeding around week 4 but the first few weeks i feed VERY light (like i would treat 10 gallons as if it was 1 gallon). then around week 8 i start following their "veg" ratio. Then switch ratios as the stage of the plant progresses. Very simple. watch some you tube videos on how to use the GH lineup.

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xX1cEpikKXx

xX1cEpikKXx

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I want to do a smalle Mix of super soil so if I'm using peat moss in 5 gallon container How much would I use of amendments like bone meal blood meal or guano? I have other amendments too but I'm trying to figure out how much to use for small amounts of peat moss
 
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Herb potman

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xX1cEpikKXx said:
I want to do a smalle Mix of super soil so if I'm using peat moss in 5 gallon container How much would I use of amendments like bone meal blood meal or guano? I have other amendments too but I'm trying to figure out how much to use for small amounts of peat moss
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Gaia green suggests 3 tablespoons per gallon of medium for there dry amendments to amend your soil.
 
Rurumo

Rurumo

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xX1cEpikKXx said:
I want to do a smalle Mix of super soil so if I'm using peat moss in 5 gallon container How much would I use of amendments like bone meal blood meal or guano? I have other amendments too but I'm trying to figure out how much to use for small amounts of peat moss
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See the recipe in the first post: https://forum.grasscity.com/threads/no-till-gardening-revisited.1400505/

Also, here is an older mix called "LC's mix" that is simpler and still works well, just not as well as the mix above: https://www.icmag.com/forum/marijuana-growing/organic-soil/48694-organics-for-beginners?t=53792
 
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