Waiting for the next shoe to fall.

TacoMac

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Israel's number one enemy is and always has been Palestine.

Most of the entire Arab world is within 500 miles of Israel. They couldn't nuke anybody without facing fallout in most cases.

Iran is about the only exception. Even at 1000 miles, they could still see some fallout, albeit miniscule amounts.

And them having nukes hasn't deterred anybody from bombing, invading, launching missles or anything else at them.
 

printer

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Israel's number one enemy is and always has been Palestine.

Most of the entire Arab world is within 500 miles of Israel. They couldn't nuke anybody without facing fallout in most cases.

Iran is about the only exception. Even at 1000 miles, they could still see some fallout, albeit miniscule amounts.

And them having nukes hasn't deterred anybody from bombing, invading, launching missles or anything else at them.
"The Samson Option refers to Israel's deterrence strategy of massive retaliation with nuclear weapons as a "last resort" against a country whose military has invaded and/or destroyed much of Israel."


You have to look at it as an ultimate defensive weapon developed when the Arab world tried to end Israel. Obviously Israel has won their wars with the others. No need to pull out the big gun. Unlike Trump who could not understand having them if he could not use them.
 

OldMedUser

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There is a more imminent and viable threat from Iran using it's latest cruise missile technology. It was used to attack that Saudi oil refinery last year and was very successful.


Not long after that attack I was reading about how that was used to convince Iran's allies that they could band together using those missiles to effectively wipe out most infrastructure in Israel and Israel's allies in one large coordinated attack. That just might leave Israel with no other option than to use it's nuclear option as it would would likely survive such an attack.

Everything seems to be focused on Iran's nuclear threat while these missiles may be a lot more damaging in the short term and are largely ignored by the media.

:peace:
 

Offmymeds

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Mr. Goldhaber said that looking at Mr. Trump through the lens of attention gives a deeper understanding of his appeal to supporters and, potentially, how to combat his style of politics. He said that many of the polarizing factors in the country are, in essence, attentional. Not having a college degree, he argued, means less attention from corporations or the economy at large. Living in a rural area, he suggested, means being farther from cultural centers and may result in feeling alienated by the attention that cities generate in the news and in pop culture. He said that almost by accident, Mr. Trump tapped into this frustration by at least pretending to pay attention to them. “His blatant racism and misogyny was an acknowledgment to his supporters who feel they deserve the attention and aren’t getting it because it is going to others,” he said.

His biggest worry, though, is that we still mostly fail to acknowledge that we live in a roaring attention economy. In other words, we tend to ignore his favorite maxim, from the writer Howard Rheingold: “Attention is a limited resource, so pay attention to where you pay attention.”

Where do we start? “It’s not a question of sitting by yourself and doing nothing,” Mr. Goldhaber told me. “But instead asking, ‘How do you allocate the attention you have in more focused, intentional ways?’” Some of that is personal — thinking critically about who we amplify and re-evaluating our habits and hobbies. Another part is to think about attention societally. He argued that pressing problems like income and racial inequality are, in some part, issues of where we direct our attention and resources and what we value.
I'm trying to pay attention to where I pay attention. A growing hobby is getting more. Attempting to convince cultists of facts has stopped entirely.
 

Bagginski

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He’s got a real point...the entire hard right turn the nation has taken is *primarily* for the purpose of protecting white wealth and blocking non-white wealth. The rest of it is elaboration of the bullshit
 

printer

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There is a more imminent and viable threat from Iran using it's latest cruise missile technology. It was used to attack that Saudi oil refinery last year and was very successful.


Not long after that attack I was reading about how that was used to convince Iran's allies that they could band together using those missiles to effectively wipe out most infrastructure in Israel and Israel's allies in one large coordinated attack. That just might leave Israel with no other option than to use it's nuclear option as it would would likely survive such an attack.

Everything seems to be focused on Iran's nuclear threat while these missiles may be a lot more damaging in the short term and are largely ignored by the media.

:peace:
I used to post on Newsmax a fair amount trying to give a reality point of view, "We will just Nuke Them", against Iran. I mention Iran has developed and disbursed a "F" of a lot of missiles to all its proxies and they have much more on tap at home. Of course anyone outside the US can not possibly make anything worrying (at least there). Iran would be a big can of worms in the conventional weapons sense. And now Trump showed them pieces of paper do not mean much. Even a dumb Persian can read the writing on the wall.
 

Fogdog

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He’s got a real point...the entire hard right turn the nation has taken is *primarily* for the purpose of protecting white wealth and blocking non-white wealth. The rest of it is elaboration of the bullshit
He's using it as an excuse for Trump. Sorry, I'm not going to even try to argue over the distinction he's trying to draw. What he said is naïve.
 

OldMedUser

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of course. did you guys have "Colored only" signs back just a few decades ago?
On the west coast of Canada Chinese were barred from many venues as they were the predominant imported race mainly brought in to build the railroad where they died at the rate of one for every mile of track built. Now the worst prejudice against their descendants is from their rich Hong Kong cousins who have moved in and call them bananas and not real Chinese.

Where I grew up next door to Vancouver in Richmond on Lulu Island it's now over 70% Asian so I'm a visible minority in my old home town being a lily-white WASP. lol Downtown Richmond now looks like the old Chinatown part of Vancouver and totally different than the place I knew. Oh well, times do change. As Lulu Island is below sea level when the big quake finally hits you won't want to be there.
 
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