Settle this please. temp needs for LED

PJ Diaz

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You guys are brave as hell pushing your flower rooms/tents in the upper 60's to 70's RH. If I did that especially late in flower my buds would be rotted all to hell unless I chopped them early. I keep my veg tent in the 60's and use a dehumidifier/inkbird to keep my flower tent between 45-55% RH.
It depends on when you do it. It's pretty safe to run higher humidity in the first 3-4 weeks of flowering, if you have good air circulation. In late flower, it's definitely important to lower the RH.
 

bEelzeBosS

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It depends on when you do it. It's pretty safe to run higher humidity in the first 3-4 weeks of flowering, if you have good air circulation. In late flower, it's definitely important to lower the RH.
So do you really notice a difference in the final product running the RH higher through the first 3-4 weeks of flowering? Have you ran a comparison?
 

coreywebster

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bEelzeBosS

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No difference in quality, but the plant is more productive in early flower at a somewhat higher RH.
Interesting. If my flower space wasn't constantly rotating plants in and out at different stages of their lives I'd try it out.

One day when my teenagers move out I'll have a whole bedroom I can dedicate to this hobby, the limitations of tent growing are getting old.
 

drsaltzman

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I can't settle this, as I don't know what the temp in my space is. I can say that I don't heat it, so the temp with the light off is 22C, same as the house. The light would warm it up some as it is enclosed. It's also the same humidity as the house which is about 35%. We have a dehumidifier in the basement that is set to 40% and hasn't turned on in two months.
The spiderfarmer lights are supposed to have IR diodes, so I don't know if you would have to raise the temp.
I guess I'll find out.
As I've said before, people sometimes yell at me saying what I'm doing will never work, and my plants will die. I just smile and say "okay". I pay attention to what they say, and if they seem to be right I put it into practice, but what is necessary for me or you might be optional for someone else.
Agree 100%.
This tangie x rainbow cross is growing in my garage, in soil, in a 3 gallon air pot, under 300W COBs, with a steady high of 73°F and low of 63°F. The clones I pulled from her are also loving the environment.
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Wizzlebiz

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How the fuck can you settle this when you have growers on both sides saying different shit all growing the same looking plants and bud.

Answers on a postcard please!
This in a fucking nutshell.

Google anything and it brings you here.

Come here and get 12000 different answers with none of them having scientific backing.....

Its like trying to figure out if eggs are good or bad for you. No one really knows they just keep spewing theory.

Its frustrating af.
 

Severed Tongue

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I've posted a few times about this already.

It's even more frustrating as a new member, trying to sift through the opinions vs the knowledge, with everyone claiming "their way" is right.

And sadly this is every forum, blog post, YouTube video...

I killed some clones because I basically suffocated them when transplanting, as I over compacted the soil. In asking about it, I got told my soil is the problem because it has wood in it. my watering is the problem because the topsoil looks dry, my humidity is the problem because clones require a dome, my pots are the problem because they are too big, my roots are the problem because I only had a long main root, .... it's like everything ever thought of.... and hey just throw everything at it.... something will work... sigh.... meanwhile some of them are doing fine... the ones I didn't compact....hmm.

Point is, seems like most people are just sniping posts and offering bad advice.
 

Wizzlebiz

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I've posted a few times about this already.

It's even more frustrating as a new member, trying to sift through the opinions vs the knowledge, with everyone claiming "their way" is right.

And sadly this is every forum, blog post, YouTube video...

I killed some clones because I basically suffocated them when transplanting, as I over compacted the soil. In asking about it, I got told my soil is the problem because it has wood in it. my watering is the problem because the topsoil looks dry, my humidity is the problem because clones require a dome, my pots are the problem because they are too big, my roots are the problem because I only had a long main root, .... it's like everything ever thought of.... and hey just throw everything at it.... something will work... sigh.... meanwhile some of them are doing fine... the ones I didn't compact....hmm.

Point is, seems like most people are just sniping posts and offering bad advice.
Nah. Its not like that. People don't intend to point others in the wrong direction.

The problem is people want to test their knowledge. Even if it might be wrong if they think it sounds good or might be a possible part of the issue they will say it.

People want to be right as well. So when they are told that they are if fact wrong folks begin looking for any way to justify their point of view.

This is why I make a thread. Let it get pages long. Then read through it and take the general concensus to apply to testing on my plants.

I dont believe any one person here about anything outside of a very select few here.

But taking the #1 reoccurring answer from the thread has helped in many cases.
 

BBQtoast

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What is the stupidity level for someone convinced they need high relative humidity to ignore everyone at low humidity producing exactly the same?

So the answer to whether LEDs need higher temperatures isn't yes, it's no you just haven't mastered what those at lower temperatures are doing and twisting shit to suit your own personal opinion.

This seems about right for a lot of what's debated here, let's find a little paragraph about calcium, let's link that to a light spectrum and then promote that LEDs need more calcium in the fertilizer. It's wholly untrue but I can present evidence some idiot will swear is scientific.
 

rkymtnman

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I've posted a few times about this already.

It's even more frustrating as a new member, trying to sift through the opinions vs the knowledge, with everyone claiming "their way" is right.

And sadly this is every forum, blog post, YouTube video...

I killed some clones because I basically suffocated them when transplanting, as I over compacted the soil. In asking about it, I got told my soil is the problem because it has wood in it. my watering is the problem because the topsoil looks dry, my humidity is the problem because clones require a dome, my pots are the problem because they are too big, my roots are the problem because I only had a long main root, .... it's like everything ever thought of.... and hey just throw everything at it.... something will work... sigh.... meanwhile some of them are doing fine... the ones I didn't compact....hmm.

Point is, seems like most people are just sniping posts and offering bad advice.
i think i see your problem, you're growing in dirt. lol. hydro
 

Wizzlebiz

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What is the stupidity level for someone convinced they need high relative humidity to ignore everyone at low humidity producing exactly the same?

So the answer to whether LEDs need higher temperatures isn't yes, it's no you just haven't mastered what those at lower temperatures are doing and twisting shit to suit your own personal opinion.

This seems about right for a lot of what's debated here, let's find a little paragraph about calcium, let's link that to a light spectrum and then promote that LEDs need more calcium in the fertilizer. It's wholly untrue but I can present evidence some idiot will swear is scientific.
The high humidity question was for veg. No one was trying to twist anything to suit anything. Just looking for answers. I dont have an opinion hence the question. All I have is what I have read and been told.

Not quite so sure why your so upset about it.

And again your statement is an opinion much like what you just lambasted.

To say I'm ignoring others result on the flip side isn't a fact. Its an opinion on the other side of the topic.

I'm not ignoring any results btw. Considering I'm asking for advise.....
 

BBQtoast

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The high humidity question was for veg. No one was trying to twist anything to suit anything. Just looking for answers. I dont have an opinion hence the question. All I have is what I have read and been told.

Not quite so sure why your so upset about it.

And again your statement is an opinion much like what you just lambasted.

To say I'm ignoring others result on the flip side isn't a fact. Its an opinion on the other side of the topic.

I'm not ignoring any results btw. Considering I'm asking for advise.....
It wasn't directed at you intentionally, humidity is an easy example to use as everyone growing start to finish in low humidity will tell you.

That's how to get through most of the bro science, see if the opposite works and then dismiss those who say it doesn't.

The only thing I was upset about was you not working this out by page two, let's speed this along, LEDs do not need special attention different temperatures or extra calcium.
 

PJ Diaz

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That's how to get through most of the bro science, see if the opposite works and then dismiss those who say it doesn't.
That's a fallacy.

It's not a question of what works and what doesn't work, it's a question of what if most efficient.

As an example, you can get across a street by hopping on one leg. That reality doesn't somehow disprove that walking on two legs is a more efficient option.
 
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