Clones off of monster cropped mother plant?

[Zephyrs]

So my question is if I take a clone off my 3 week budded plant. Then root and reveg that clone until maturity again. Will the resulting clones off her as a mother plant still have the monster cropped trait of her if kept under veg. lighting periods while/after rooting?? Or will they just look like a normal clone wi alternating nodes??

 

[Star Dog]

It's just a clone of the original, it's the flower part that makes them grow desirable.


That’s it at the back right a week or so later.

 

[Wastei]

So my question is if I take a clone off my 3 week budded plant. Then root and reveg that clone until maturity again. Will the resulting clones off her as a mother plant still have the monster cropped trait if kept under veg. lighting periods while/after rooting?? Or will they just look like a normal clone with alternating nodes??

Normal clones have non alternating nodes. "Monster clones" reveg or whatever you want to call it has alternating nodes.

 

[Zephyrs]

It's just a clone of the original

Right, but will the second generation clone I guess. Be bushy like a 50 year olds pubes? Or will it dial back to normal clone growth?

 

[Zephyrs]

Normal clones have non alternating nodes. "Monster clones" reveg or whatever you want to call it has alternating nodes.
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I got that many years ago. Maybe you didn't understand my question.

 

[Star Dog]

Right, but will the second generation clone I guess. Be bushy like a 50 year olds pubes? Or will it dial back to normal clone growth?

Totally normal growth if it's taken in veg, it'll be the exact same as a regular clone.

 

[Zephyrs]

Totally normal growth if it's taken in veg, it'll be the exact same as a regular clone.

Thanks for the info. I have a runtz muffin in the closet I might wanna take a snipper er 2 off at 21 days o flower.

 

[DrBuzzFarmer]

Alternating phyllotaxy is a sign of maturity.
Cloning does not send a plant back into it's youth.
It is still an adult plant and will display alternating (or whorled) phyllotaxy.
You only get a couple weeks of opposite phyllotaxy before it matures.

Edit:
I purposely take clones after the first week of bloom, to give me a massive boost in branching sites after reveg.
use an oxycloner, so they ALWAYS reveg just fine.
This is my solution for supercropping plants that come from clone and have lost their opposite phyllotaxy long ago.
It allows me to create thick bushes from which I can fill a trellis.
One plant per 4x4 is easily attainable this way in a fairly short time frame.

 

[Zephyrs]

I'll just try it N see for me self.

 

[Zephyrs]

Alternating phyllotaxy is a sign of maturity.
Cloning does not send a plant back into it's youth.
It is still an adult plant and will display alternating (or whorled) phyllotaxy.
You only get a couple weeks of opposite phyllotaxy before it matures.

So you're saying if I took a couple cuttings of a monster cropped mother plant, then the babies will look like a normal clone?

 

[Zephyrs]

Totally normal growth if it's taken in veg, it'll be the exact same as a regular clone.

Talking about 3 weeks into flower though.

 

[DrBuzzFarmer]

So you're saying if I took a couple cuttings of a monster cropped mother plant, then the babies will look like a normal clone?

'Zactly.
But I edited the response and gave you the solution.

 

[MICHI-CAN]

If I understand the question? It will be evenly spaced if taken from a true top Un even spacing if a side or branch. 3 weeks flower will add a day or 3 to rooting. And the later into flower? The more fun rooting becomes for me. Hope this helps.

 

[Star Dog]

Talking about 3 weeks into flower though.

Ah right... It'll grow weird as fk for a bit then return to normal growth.
Here's a couple of examples.



The above photo is the one under the orange screen now below.

 

[DrBuzzFarmer]

Bloom causes the internode length to shrink drastically while calyxes form.
When you reveg, the plant stretches back out and branches grow from each internode.
I sometimes use a tiny bit of light deprivation to get more stretch, if I need to balance the growth a little.
This can result in basically the same thing as a new start, and in fact give you more branches that a new start would normally give.
Just ALWAYS take perfectly healthy clones. If a plant is stuttering, wait until it is healthy again before cloning.
Illnesses and certain pest damage can become genetic when damaged clones are taken.
It could ruin your prized strain, if you perpetuate it by cloning.

 

[MICHI-CAN]

Bloom causes the internode length to shrink drastically while calyxes form.
When you reveg, the plant stretches back out and branches grow from each internode.
I sometimes use a tiny bit of light deprivation to get more stretch, if I need to balance the growth a little.
This can result in basically the same thing as a new start, and in fact give you more branches that a new start would normally give.
Just ALWAYS take perfectly healthy clones. If a plant is stuttering, wait until it is healthy again before cloning.
Illnesses and certain pest damage can become genetic when damaged clones are taken.
It could ruin your prized strain, if you perpetuate it by cloning.

Citrus mealies on a failed late flower attempt. Cleanliness, low light and healthy starts. Only almost guarantee.

 

[DrBuzzFarmer]

Citrus mealies on a failed late flower attempt. Cleanliness, low light and healthy starts. Only almost guaranteeView attachment 4782544.

Get ya an Oxycloner and get 100% success.
(That's a link)

 

[Zephyrs]

If I understand the question? It will be evenly spaced if taken from a true top Un even spacing if a side or branch. 3 weeks flower will add a day or 3 to rooting. And the later into flower? The more fun rooting becomes for me. Hope this helps.

Thanks Bud yes that did help and make sense also.

 

[Zephyrs]

If I understand the question? It will be evenly spaced if taken from a true top Un even spacing if a side or branch. 3 weeks flower will add a day or 3 to rooting. And the later into flower? The more fun rooting becomes for me. Hope this helps.

Yeah Man it's either I clone tomorrow or just let the sucker shoots ride it out another 8 weeks.

 

[MICHI-CAN]

Get ya an Oxycloner and get 100% success.
(That's a link)

Just an experiment after late showing outdoors with added stress. 100% with basics always thank you. Didn't expect much and short of ICU? Those were toast before I began.