How to use the fox farm feeding trio when following the schedule

[NugNewb]

Please help... I don't understand the fox farm trio feeding schedule. I can follow the chart where at week 7 it calls for 3tsp of one and 2 tsp of each per gallon of water. My questions is that supposed to be per plant. What if you are not feeding your plant the whole gallon, should you put the same amount in less, say in 1/2 a gallon??? So if it is per plant, should you mix up 3 batches of the 3-2-2 tsp per gallon for each plant or divide one dose in one gallon of water among all three of my current plants?? See how confusing it is...? And don't get me started on the ppm. My filtered tap water starts out with a ppm after resting at about 94ppm. After mixing in the week 7 recommended nutes, my ppm is around 900 - 1000ppm. No where near what they recommend. So should I just ignore the ppm and pay attention to the dosing?? and is the dosing per plant per feeding??? I am a nurse and these are the same questions I have when medicating patients... The info for fox farms is not clear and from what I see so far, no one can give a straight answer so any help would be greatly appreciated.....

 

[dbz]

First, what medium are you in?
Second, many here will chime in on nutes for hydro and I am much less experienced, but I can tell you this:
All plants require different amounts of water, you need to guage it by the individual plant. So if you are needing 2 gallons total to water your plants appropriately the amounts are per gallon, so you mix in for two gallons. If you need 5 gallons you mix in for five gallons. The amount per gallon has nothing to do with per plant or each plant wanting a gallon necessarily (although they might come to needing that much depending on the rest of the stuff with your grow, medium etc)
Now for hydro from what I know, the manufacturer recommendations a lot of times are a bit hot, and you want to start a little low and ease up and if you see signs of nute burn then back off.
Once again your medium, environment, lights and everything will help people here help you more.

 

[xtsho]

It says right on their feeding charts per gallon. So mix X amount with a gallon of water. It doesn't matter how many gallons you mix up. Just multiply X by gallons of water used. Then water your plants. But you should probably use less of X than what they list on their chart. Many people seem to have issues over feeding with FF especially if they're using all that other stuff they have on their feeding charts.

 

[NugNewb]

First, what medium are you in?
Second, many here will chime in on nutes for hydro and I am much less experienced, but I can tell you this:
All plants require different amounts of water, you need to guage it by the individual plant. So if you are needing 2 gallons total to water your plants appropriately the amounts are per gallon, so you mix in for two gallons. If you need 5 gallons you mix in for five gallons. The amount per gallon has nothing to do with per plant or each plant wanting a gallon necessarily (although they might come to needing that much depending on the rest of the stuff with your grow, medium etc)
Now for hydro from what I know, the manufacturer recommendations a lot of times are a bit hot, and you want to start a little low and ease up and if you see signs of nute burn then back off.
Once again your medium, environment, lights and everything will help people here help you more.

Thanks for the advice... I really appreciate it... I'm in soil. I think the whole ppm thing is throwing me off

 

[NugNewb]

It says right on their feeding charts per gallon. So mix X amount with a gallon of water. It doesn't matter how many gallons you mix up. Just multiply X by gallons of water used. Then water your plants. But you should probably use less of X than what they list on their chart. Many people seem to have issues over feeding with FF especially if they're using all that other stuff they have on their feeding charts.

Thanks for your reply.. so should I just ignore the ppm...?? After mixing in what they have listed per gallon, my ppm is way too low.... would that make less nutes available due to it being too diluted??? Or should I keep adding to get the ppm to the desired range... maybe I'm over thinking it and should ignore the ppm and stick to the schedule...lol...

 

[xtsho]

Thanks for your reply.. so should I just ignore the ppm...?? After mixing in what they have listed per gallon, my ppm is way too low.... would that make less nutes available due to it being too diluted??? Or should I keep adding to get the ppm to the desired range... maybe I'm over thinking it and should ignore the ppm and stick to the schedule...lol...

I wouldn't ignore ppm's but off of a generic feed chart isn't necessarily the best way to feed your plants. I would mix it in the proper ratio's per gallon to get the ppm's that your plants will grow best with. That FF feed chart is too high especially if you're growing in soil that already contains nutrients. They have you overfeeding and then flushing every week. It doesn't make any sense. What makes sense is to feed less and skip the frequent flushing to remove the excess nutrients caused by overfeeding.

 

[Rabeats2093]

When I use fox farm I like to alternate feed every other watering I used the dirty dozen package and worked great Outdoors made some tweaks to the schedule according to growth of plant but when I mixed them I put twelve Nutes measured out per one gallon of water for one plant and it did stellar I am on some autos feeding them the fox farm made my own schedule seeing how the one they include is for photos I’m only using the trio some boomerang and microbrew put it all in a gallon and just split water up equally to all three plants sometimes their is left over water but it is mixed to the proper ratio seem to be doing good ...smaller stages like week two I used six cups of water to a quarter tsp of each for three plants and they took it well Not no expert just telling you my experience

 

[NugNewb]

I wouldn't ignore ppm's but off of a generic feed chart isn't necessarily the best way to feed your plants. I would mix it in the proper ratio's per gallon to get the ppm's that your plants will grow best with. That FF feed chart is too high especially if you're growing in soil that already contains nutrients. They have you overfeeding and then flushing every week. It doesn't make any sense. What makes sense is to feed less and skip the frequent flushing to remove the excess nutrients caused by overfeeding.

I understand

When I use fox farm I like to alternate feed every other watering I used the dirty dozen package and worked great Outdoors made some tweaks to the schedule according to growth of plant but when I mixed them I put twelve Nutes measured out per one gallon of water for one plant and it did stellar I am on some autos feeding them the fox farm made my own schedule seeing how the one they include is for photos I’m only using the trio some boomerang and microbrew put it all in a gallon and just split water up equally to all three plants sometimes their is left over water but it is mixed to the proper ratio seem to be doing good ...smaller stages like week two I used six cups of water to a quarter tsp of each for three plants and they took it well Not no expert just telling you my experience

I really appreciate your feedback. It was simple and to the point which is what I needed to hear. I think I now have an idea... Your advice was great...

 

[Wizzlebiz]

Straight up its hot nutes. Begin with 25% of values and slowly increase as you go. This is from experience of growing many plants using fox farms trio.

What soil are you in? Most soils will supply your plants for a couple weeks before you should use any nutes at all.

Fox farms schedule has you using them from day 1 which I strongly advise against.

 

[Wizzlebiz]

Dont use anything containing nitrogen from that line during the flower cycle (unless necessary ie:leaves yellowing out due to nitrogen deficiency) the schedule lies and wants you to literally fuck your whole grow, you’re asking to burn em up, stick to just the big bloom during flower, maybe use tiger bloom in the very end of veg before flower (depending on whether you are transplanting to soil that already is amended with a certain amount of nutrients), although nitrogen is vital in ever stage of growth you need substantially less in flower. So be careful!! I grow in ffof and dont use a single bottled nutrient for atleast a month,(asides silica) plus i transplant from 1 gal to 3 gal so its almost unnecessary for me to do anything with bottled nutes of any kind until i get to flower, other than just ph’d water since my soil is amended with dolomite lime, epsom salt, and mykos.

Your 1st sentence made me stop reading immediately.

Please don't try to inform anyone on fox farms nutrients. The schedule is absolutely fine. As with all nute lines that are bottles you begin at low doses of the recommended values and slowly increase from there.

Don't misinform people. You need to learn bud.

 

[Veeplants]

Your 1st sentence made me stop reading immediately.

Please don't try to inform anyone on fox farms nutrients. The schedule is absolutely fine. As with all nute lines that are bottles you begin at low doses of the recommended values and slowly increase from there.

Don't misinform people. You need to learn bud.

if we’re talking about the same schedule that has you using excessive amount of nitrogen that aren’t necessary in flower past week 3 then i think you may be misinformed. Everyone grows a different way and has a different method, we dont all grow exactly the same. Im not a hydro guy, im a soil guy, and i dont touch a bottled nute containing N past week 3 of flower.

 

[Wizzlebiz]

if we’re talking about the same schedule that has you using excessive amount of nitrogen that aren’t necessary in flower past week 3 then i think you may be misinformed. Everyone grows a different way and has a different method, we dont all grow exactly the same. Im not a hydro guy, im a soil guy, and i dont touch a bottled nute containing N past week 3 of flower.

Stop right there.

You are in here speaking to new growers and telling them not to use a schedule.

The schedule is a good guide. Especially for new growers. Again they should not be going 100% on any of it.

I take it you like to cut nitrogen from your comments after week 3 of flowers.

I absolutely do not. I won't allow my plants to struggle unnecessary. They do in fact need nitrogen during flower just not a ton of it.

Hence why the schedule has it going until the last 3 weeks of flower. At a lower dose.

Don't try to come at me about fox farms. Its literally all I have ever used and never needed more than 50% of the recommended values as I had stated in my 1st comment.

 

[Wizzlebiz]

@Veeplants i challenge you to begin a thread stating plants dont need nitrogen past week 3 of flower and see what happens.
Please tag me in your post so I can watch the shit storm.

 

[Veeplants]

@Veeplants i challenge you to begin a thread stating plants dont need nitrogen past week 3 of flower and see what happens.
Please tag me in your post so I can watch the shit storm.

I challenge you to read instead of acting like im telling you that n is not used throughout the flower cycle Im not a dumbass, i realize that cannabis’ most vital and necessary nutrient is nitrogen, yet you need substantially less in flower, like ive been saying if you had more than 3 brain cells to process what i said, you dont need to consistently feed the way fox farms schedule wants you to, its completely absurd and you’re asking to burn your plants.

 

[Wizzlebiz]

I challenge you to read instead of acting like im telling you that n is not used throughout the flower cycle Im not a dumbass, i realize that cannabis’ most vital and necessary nutrient is nitrogen, yet you need substantially less in flower, like ive been saying if you had more than 3 brain cells to process what i said, you dont need to consistently feed the way fox farms schedule wants you to, its completely absurd and you’re asking to burn your plants.

Again your posting in a fucking new growers thread.

Your information is worthless to them as they have no idea what to give an any discernible time.

Again I dont see your thread about stopping nitrogen after week 3 of flower which was your claim.


Why no thread????


Your also informing them to not use anything but big bloom in flower.

You need to stop.

 

[Jimbo the Gael]

Calm down guys. @Veeplants You do say in your post that nitrogen is vital in every stage of growth, but you also seem to tell the OP not to give his plants any. That seems to be where this disagreement starts. @Wizzlebiz also clearly states that if a grower is using the schedule, they should only use 50% of what it states.

Can you guys leave the argument there? We really don't need another thread getting deleted today.

OP, I use Megacrop from veg through flower after my plants have exhausted the nutes in their soil. I have only seen people succeed using FF nutes when they cut the amount down, usually by 50%.

 

[Veeplants]

Again your posting in a fucking new growers thread.

Your information is worthless to them as they have no idea what to give an any discernible time.

Again I dont see your thread about stopping nitrogen after week 3 of flower which was your claim.
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Why no thread????


Your also informing them to not use anything but big bloom in flower.

You need to stop.

Calm down guys. @Veeplants You do say in your post that nitrogen is vital in every stage of growth, but you also seem to tell the OP not to give his plants any. That weems to be where this disagreement starts. @Wizzlebiz also clearly states that if a grower is using the schedule, they should only use 50% of what it states.

Can you guys leave the argument there? We really don't need another thread getting deleted today.

OP, I use Megacrop from veg through flower after my plants have exhausted the nutes in their soil. I have only seen people succeed using FF nutes when they cut the amount down, usually by 50%.

I can redact my comment of saying not to use anything containing nitrogen from that line during the flower cycle, because like i said we all grow differently, personally i transplant into fresh amended soil and have plenty of N to help me get through stretch, i dont touch bottled N throughout flower unless necessary, thats all im trying to tell this guy, to not burn his fucking plants like fox farms wants him to.

 

[Wizzlebiz]

Calm down guys. @Veeplants You do say in your post that nitrogen is vital in every stage of growth, but you also seem to tell the OP not to give his plants any. That weems to be where this disagreement starts. @Wizzlebiz also clearly states that if a grower is using the schedule, they should only use 50% of what it states.

Can you guys leave the argument there? We really don't need another thread getting deleted today.

OP, I use Megacrop from veg through flower after my plants have exhausted the nutes in their soil. I have only seen people succeed using FF nutes when they cut the amount down, usually by 50%.

As you know I really don't like new growers getting misinformation. Even if some of the info is solid.

People forget they are helping newer growers and talk like the knowledge they have is common knowledge. Which for new growers its totally not.

Thats why schedules exist. To help the newer growers. Unfortunately most nute companies do in fact over state the amount that should be given.

So now there is misinformation on both sides of that coin. Im only trying to help a new grower see the easiest way to learn while simultaneously teaching them the value given on the schedule are bad.

It isn't easy man lmao

 

[Veeplants]

As you know I really don't like new growers getting misinformation. Even if some of the info is solid.

People forget they are helping newer growers and talk like the knowledge they have is common knowledge. Which for new growers its totally not.

Thats why schedules exist. To help the newer growers. Unfortunately most nute companies do in fact over state the amount that should be given.

So now there is misinformation on both sides of that coin. Im only trying to help a new grower see the easiest way to learn while simultaneously teaching them the value given on the schedule are bad.

It isn't easy man lmao

i apologize for the misunderstanding, not tryna get into any heated arguements over nutrients today. logging off this one.

 

[Jimbo the Gael]

I can redact my comment of saying not to use anything containing nitrogen from that line during the flower cycle, because like i said we all grow differently, personally i transplant into fresh amended soil and have plenty of N to help me get through stretch, i dont touch bottled N throughout flower unless necessary, thats all im trying to tell this guy, to not burn his fucking plants like fox farms wants him to.

I get that. And Wizzle does too, which is why he told him to cut the concentration.

As you know I really don't like new growers getting misinformation. Even if some of the info is solid.

People forget they are helping newer growers and talk like the knowledge they have is common knowledge. Which for new growers its totally not.

Thats why schedules exist. To help the newer growers. Unfortunately most nute companies do in fact over state the amount that should be given.

So now there is misinformation on both sides of that coin. Im only trying to help a new grower see the easiest way to learn while simultaneously teaching them the value given on the schedule are bad.

It isn't easy man lmao

Yeah. I get that. And it's easy to loose your temper when you think someone is going to get their plants hurt due to advice which is easily misinterpreted.

It was a misunderstanding. That's all.