Greenman's Experimental Cloning Method :)

Greenman71

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So I don't know if anyone is taking credit for this method of cloning. I've not seen it anywhere. I saw some videos of people cloning fruit trees and wondered if it could be applied to cannabis. Turns out it can! Rather than making cuttings and then cloning them, I've rooted a branch while still on the plant and then cut it free after the roots have formed. I just did this this morning so we will see how much it shocks my new plant and if it is able to thrive. What I did was purchase some rooting balls from amazon. I scraped a branch near the main stem about 1 inch in length all the way around, applied Clonex rooting gel to the area I scored, and then clamped the rooting ball around the branch. You put dirt inside the ball, clamp it to the branch and keep it moist. It took about 3 weeks to root. I removed the rooting ball, cut the rooted branch free and then transplanted it into a five gallon bag. I trimmed a couple branches off so that it doesn't have to work so hard to get nutrients. Planted it a little deeper than usual. But if it lives I will have a six inch clone that has already been topped! I have included a few photos and a link to the amazon listing if you'd like to give this method a try yourself. Next time I will probably root some smaller branches. This one was probably a bit bigger than it needed to be. Really, I just wanted to see if this would work.

They're called grafting or rooting balls. Get the clear ones so you can see when your roots have developed. Probably work best on low thin branches. Better than just cutting them off and throwing the low branches away. Clone them instead!

Here's the link to the amazon rooting balls. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08G8753DY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
 

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Red Eyed

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So I don't know if anyone is taking credit for this method of cloning. I've not seen it anywhere. I saw some videos of people cloning fruit trees and wondered if it could be applied to cannabis. Turns out it can! Rather than making cuttings and then cloning them, I've rooted a branch while still on the plant and then cut it free after the roots have formed. I just did this this morning so we will see how much it shocks my new plant and if it is able to thrive. What I did was purchase some rooting balls from amazon. I scraped a branch near the main stem about 1 inch in length all the way around, applied Clonex rooting gel to the area I scored, and then clamped the rooting ball around the branch. You put dirt inside the ball, clamp it to the branch and keep it moist. It took about 3 weeks to root. I removed the rooting ball, cut the rooted branch free and then transplanted it into a five gallon bag. I trimmed a couple branches off so that it doesn't have to work so hard to get nutrients. Planted it a little deeper than usual. But if it lives I will have a six inch clone that had already been topped! I have included a few photos and a link to the amazon listing if you'd like to give this method a try yourself. Next time I will probably root some smaller branches. This one was probably a bit bigger than it needed to be. Really, I just wanted to see if this would work.

They're called grafting or rooting balls. Get the clear ones so you can see when your roots have developed. Probably work best on low thin branches. Better than just cutting them off and throwing the low branches away. Clone them instead!
I normally use those lowest branches for my clones......I top after node 5 and use node 1 for my cuts. This is a pretty cool method and does work if done correctly. Great job.
 

Star Dog

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Sorry been there done that a long time ago, I doubt I was 1st.

Do a search for air layering
 

Greenman71

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Yeah, I saw some air layering videos. I think they were doing fig trees or something. Decided to try to with cannabis. I think this is a very clever way to clone and I don't know why it isn't used more often. Have you had any issues with the cloned plants thriving? Do they grow normally? I'm really wondering if there are any downsides as this seems to be a very easy way to make clones. Might even cut a week or two of veg time off your grow.
 

Greenman71

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I read through your previous thread. You'll forgive me, but you didn't exactly do the same thing I've done. It's similar, but you did it to a flowering plant where what I did is more like your standard cloning job. Were you trying to clone flowering plants? I'm not sure I understand what you were trying to accomplish. Well, anyway, it's pretty simple to do. I like that I ended up with a much larger rooted clone. And in only three weeks. Hopefully it doesn't die.
 

speedwell68

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Very interesting. I wonder if it would work with a jiffy plug cut down the side, some cling film and a couple of zip ties to hold it in place? I think I am going to try.
 

Greenman71

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Pretty sure it would work that way, too. Same concept. Just different execution.

Just come up from downstairs and there is a little wilting. I sprayed the leaves, gave it a little foliar feeding. Probably gonna have to baby it a little.
 

xtsho

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People have been air layering cannabis for a long time as they have with many other plants. It's nothing new and it does work.
 

Hot Diggity Sog

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So I don't know if anyone is taking credit for this method of cloning. I've not seen it anywhere. I saw some videos of people cloning fruit trees and wondered if it could be applied to cannabis. Turns out it can! Rather than making cuttings and then cloning them, I've rooted a branch while still on the plant and then cut it free after the roots have formed. I just did this this morning so we will see how much it shocks my new plant and if it is able to thrive. What I did was purchase some rooting balls from amazon. I scraped a branch near the main stem about 1 inch in length all the way around, applied Clonex rooting gel to the area I scored, and then clamped the rooting ball around the branch. You put dirt inside the ball, clamp it to the branch and keep it moist. It took about 3 weeks to root. I removed the rooting ball, cut the rooted branch free and then transplanted it into a five gallon bag. I trimmed a couple branches off so that it doesn't have to work so hard to get nutrients. Planted it a little deeper than usual. But if it lives I will have a six inch clone that has already been topped! I have included a few photos and a link to the amazon listing if you'd like to give this method a try yourself. Next time I will probably root some smaller branches. This one was probably a bit bigger than it needed to be. Really, I just wanted to see if this would work.

They're called grafting or rooting balls. Get the clear ones so you can see when your roots have developed. Probably work best on low thin branches. Better than just cutting them off and throwing the low branches away. Clone them instead!

Here's the link to the amazon rooting balls. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08G8753DY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
This is really quite cool. Thank you for sharing!

Few questions:
The branch you attached the ball too - did it continue to grow as if you had done nothing to it or did it slow and become stunted?
After it rooted and you cut it free, did you end up needing to cut off any extra stem beneath where the root ball was or did that not matter?
 

Star Dog

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I read through your previous thread. You'll forgive me, but you didn't exactly do the same thing I've done. It's similar, but you did it to a flowering plant where what I did is more like your standard cloning job. Were you trying to clone flowering plants? I'm not sure I understand what you were trying to accomplish. Well, anyway, it's pretty simple to do. I like that I ended up with a much larger rooted clone. And in only three weeks. Hopefully it doesn't die.
Whats the difference?
 

Greenman71

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This is really quite cool. Thank you for sharing!

Few questions:
The branch you attached the ball too - did it continue to grow as if you had done nothing to it or did it slow and become stunted?
After it rooted and you cut it free, did you end up needing to cut off any extra stem beneath where the root ball was or did that not matter?
it grew like normal. Had four branches by the time I snipped it free. I trimmed two off and planted it. It wilted for a short while. Gave it a couple foliar feeding with clonex spray. Last time I looked it had perked up. I cut about an inch below the root ball.
 

Greenman71

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I placed two more root balls this morning. One on an Amensia Fast and one on a Chocolate Skunk (I think haha forgot now). Picked a smaller, lower branch this time aaaaannnddd the ball was too heavy and dragged the branch down. I had to tie it to a larger branch. Probably should have realized that would happen with a smaller branch. So you kind of have to pick a thicker and more sturdy branch to do this with or do like me and strap it to a bigger branch. We'll see in two or three weeks if it works again!
 
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