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idlewilder

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Seattle Greg AKA Greg McCallister, who is in his 70s, just gave Todd McCormick/Authentic Genetics...... his Original NL5 genetics,, and told Exactly what it was bred with.
Greg got Hawaiian genetics from Hawaii ( this guy is also alive, and wants to collaborate with McCormick, and Greg verified the guy is the guy that holds the original Hawaiian genes ) and bred it to an old Afghan mother he had in the 70s, all of this started in the 70s.

The Hawaiian is???
Swazi x Thai x Mexican. They got the Mexican from BOEL/Clackamas Coots buddies long ago, and bred it to the Afghan, and it produced a BIG Sativa type plant.

When Nevil got the cut, it was bred back to the Afghan again, making it more of an Indica structured plant.
Then when Nevil bred it it was further bred to an afghan making the Indica structure mostly locked in.
Then in 1990 Sensi Seeds got all of Nevils genetics, and released it as NL5 when actually it its a Hybrid. Greg says he never gave the genetics out to anyone else in pure form.

McCormick has these for Preorder for $100 for 2 packs. Buy 1 get 1 free. Deal ends end of Nov. Seeds will be delivered by April 1st 2021.
These will be germ tested if we’re lucky
 

GrownAtHighAltitude

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I understand what it means but I just don't like that April fools day is in the mix.
In an industry where getting burned is more often than not the norm its just bad magumbo.
I'm glad to hear that he's ahead of schedule shipping out the Sk1's though.
Hopefully the NL5 will roll out just as smoothly.
Todd @ Authentic Genetics has delivered for me 3 times in the past year, always with great communication and no problems.

The seeds I've tested from him so far have worked great. I wouldn't worry about this particular pre-order. Todd is killing it these days.
 

MickeyBlanco

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Todd @ Authentic Genetics has delivered for me 3 times in the past year, always with great communication and no problems.

The seeds I've tested from him so far have worked great. I wouldn't worry about this particular pre-order. Todd is killing it these days.
Did Todd send you a tracking number? I'm waiting on my skunk 1 pre-order.
 

GrownAtHighAltitude

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Did Todd send you a tracking number? I'm waiting on my skunk 1 pre-order.
Only when he actually ships. The only pre-order I've done is for the NL5. Everything else I've ordered from him has been in stock.

Edit: Oh, I forgot I managed to snag some of the original Skunk #1 seeds from Mel. Not the pre-order, but these were existing beans. Got all that just fine too.
 

SFnone

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This is pretty interesting. I have been researching information on NL for years. Thanks for sharing this. Its pretty cool that the real deal NL5 could possibly be released at some point.
The seeds Todd has were given to him by Greg after Greg's sister died and his family found a bunch of seeds in her freezer. From what I understand they are from 1985. I think Greg also sent Todd seeds of "Hawaiian Lights", "Neutron Lights", and "Purest Indica" with the Northern Lights seeds.
 

dopebeard

Member
The seeds Todd has were given to him by Greg after Greg's sister died and his family found a bunch of seeds in her freezer. From what I understand they are from 1985. I think Greg also sent Todd seeds of "Hawaiian Lights", "Neutron Lights", and "Purest Indica" with the Northern Lights seeds.
Pretty interesting, any info on these other strains? I love indicas, so the "purest indica" would be cool to get a hold of.
 

keepafeeno

Active Member
Irf its Swazi x Thai x Mex x Afghan, would it not be 75% Sativa???? 3 out of 4 parents are Sativa.
Originally Posted by NL Seattle Greg

Aloha,

The base plants for the entire Seattle Northern Lights strains 1 to 10 was a batch of seed sent from Afghanistan that ended up in Herbie's employers hands who just happened to be an old friend from High School so I was able to get four seeds. Then I started doing seed crops of the pure Indica and crossing it with other strains from Nepal, Mexico, and Columbia.

I had clones and seed and NL#5 was Hawaiian x Steve Murphy's Afghani Strain that is what I sent to Nevil. Steve Murphy owned The Indoor Sun Shoppe in Seattle. NL #5 was a F1 hybrid in 1982.

Northern lights # 1 was Nevils Afghani crossed with the Seattle Afghan strain form Steve Murphy.

I have been breeding since 1970 and he got NL from me. I sent seed to Ben and Kees at Sensi too for giving me the nutrient formula for Grodan and Seattle water.

The 11 strains were graded by height and flavor for indoor growing. The #1 was a short phenotype pure Indica from Afghanistan as was #2,3, & 4. #5 to #11 were the Hybrids with the narrow leaved strains we worked with.

The 11 packets of seed Nevil received were graded the #1 ,2, 3, were 100% indica, #5 the clone I traded Herbie Nelson for was 50% Afghani & 50% Hawaiian sativa. The others #6-#11 were crosses with Columbian, Thai, and Mexican Sativas. Nevil then sold out to Ben, became partners with Arjan, and then hooked up with the Mr. Nice Crew.
 

dopebeard

Member
So if there’s no “Hawaiian” in “Hawaiian” why is it “Hawaiian”
There is no real land race Hawaiian to my understanding. All of the Hawaiian genetics came from other places in the world. These "Hawaiian" strains have been acclimating to Hawaii so long that they are considered by most to be Hawaiian now. If someone knows the actual genetics of a Hawaiian hybrid, I would think that hybrid could be no older than the 60s. My understanding is that if a strain has been their much longer it is considered a Hawaiian landrace but with everything in the weed world, its pretty subjective.
 
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