Former President Trump fires patriots in charge of the military and replaces them with yes men

Tripping With Rocks

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No he was insane. You do not send bombs to people to kill them and not be insane. Read his manifesto, listen to his brother and sister in law, he was totally insane To say he was naive is taking away from the horror he caused IMO.
I have to disagree. Insane people don't take care to avoid being detected. He certainly has mental issues, but that doesn't make him insane.
 

hanimmal

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Regarding social media, the right dominates it. Not just posts by propaganda trolls but real live US humans.


Propaganda mostly influences people who are already leaning toward the direction it is pushing. I say this not only from studies based on the effects of propaganda but from my personal experience. I have a brother who is very right wing in his views. Looking back, we were diverging in how we responded toward authoritarian messaging when we were teenagers. How was it with your family? Were they liberals before turning or were they already pretty conservative?

The flood of right wing propaganda did not unite this country, it divided us according to how we responded to its messages. Less than half the people in this country voted for Trump. If propaganda were as effective as you say, wouldn't they have gotten more votes?
My grandpa was racist AF and lived right down the street from us. I was too young really to get those hardened teen years I had moved out to rural MI and got into sports.

My dad was in a union and always voted Democrat and got radicalized down he women route. Im not sure about my older brothers/sister because I didn't really talk with them about anything like this until it was too late (2018 really when I had enough information to see what was going on).

Im pretty sure though that my dad started to surf the net looking for what the orange bacteria he was seeing on water buckets was and that led to contrails. I started hearing about that from him around 2014. By 2016 the wheels fell off with him and my brother, and I have barely talked to anyone in my family since 2017.
 

hanimmal

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Regarding social media, the right dominates it. Not just posts by propaganda trolls but real live US humans.


Propaganda mostly influences people who are already leaning toward the direction it is pushing. I say this not only from studies based on the effects of propaganda but from my personal experience. I have a brother who is very right wing in his views. Looking back, we were diverging in how we responded toward authoritarian messaging when we were teenagers. How was it with your family? Were they liberals before turning or were they already pretty conservative?

The flood of right wing propaganda did not unite this country, it divided us according to how we responded to its messages. Less than half the people in this country voted for Trump. If propaganda were as effective as you say, wouldn't they have gotten more votes?
I think that article is missing in their understanding of how the trolling is amplifying the messages. They pretend in it that all that activity is being done by actual accounts of people and they really have no way to know that for sure.

What he could be measuring in how wide the right wing propaganda is spread is the manufactured click farm trolling that is used to amplify the messages, especially in all those private 'groups' they can't research.
 

topcat

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My grandpa was racist AF and lived right down the street from us. I was too young really to get those hardened teen years I had moved out to rural MI and got into sports.

My dad was in a union and always voted Democrat and got radicalized down he women route. Im not sure about my older brothers/sister because I didn't really talk with them about anything like this until it was too late (2018 really when I had enough information to see what was going on).

Im pretty sure though that my dad started to surf the net looking for what the orange bacteria he was seeing on water buckets was and that led to contrails. I started hearing about that from him around 2014. By 2016 the wheels fell off with him and my brother, and I have barely talked to anyone in my family since 2017.
I don't have quite the same experience, but my older brother and I are on the same page. My older sister though, well, we're finished because of her poisoned husband. I hate it, but "it is what it is."
Edit: My mom was in the APWU and I am still in the NALC, unions for clerks and carriers, respectively, of the USPS. My dad never had the opportunity to join a union. Sound familiar?
 
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CunningCanuk

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Lack of transition coordination and Pentagon chaos could leave US vulnerable to national security threats
 

Bagginski

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to be fair if you dont want to spend the 20 mins or less time to vote in Australia you dont have to. You can either:
A: Never sign up to vote in the first place.
B: Just pay ur small fine when it comes in the mail.
C: When u get ur small fine write back and tell them you didnt want to vote for whatever reason and not pay your fine.
D; Not pay your fine and hear nothing back anyway.

The beautiful thing about encouraging the whole population to vote is that then the Gov must make elections and voting easy. Notice all the complaints about how voting was hard for lots of Americans? Deliberately made hard in most cases. It also means that elections are held on Sundays and stuff. When 97% of the population votes then a huge % of the population actually follow politics.

Americans are much more slaves than Australia. Your min wage is slave labor here and employers would be charged paying some of the rates there. You don't even get universal healthcare. You work more hours, have less paid annual leave and less paid sick days. I think you even get less breaks throughout the working day. You dont even get employer paid Superannuation as a normal every day worker which is law here. Hell even ur prisoners have to work as slaves in the privately owned slave houses.
We even live longer.

If Australians were slaves then how come we were paid during our lock downs that helped keep us safe, even our unemployment benefit was doubled to $1115.70 a fortnight. Sole traders like myself got $3k per month. What was Americans response? Work and/or die.

Americas tradition of slavery continues its just the workin man who is now the slave and taught to not want the very things that would benefit him. Like Voting.
The US minimum wage is enough like slave labor to fully count - but there’s PLENTY of folks who indignantly insist it’s too much...then again, it was *intended* to be an inadequate token pay for servants in the first place
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Imagine how tough it would be for Vlad if Joe had this guy's back? I dunno for sure, but I'd say your NATO allies were attacking the Russians too and helping to thwart their efforts. They would not stand by and let this happen unimpeded, someone will be asking what they did to help soon. Think this guy would be a good hire for Joe, or someone who could be relied upon to be a patriot? Another medal of freedom candidate IMHO.
 

hanimmal

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Imagine how tough it would be for Vlad if Joe had this guy's back? I dunno for sure, but I'd say your NATO allies were attacking the Russians too and helping to thwart their efforts. They would not stand by and let this happen unimpeded, someone will be asking what they did to help soon. Think this guy would be a good hire for Joe, or someone who could be relied upon to be a patriot? Another medal of freedom candidate IMHO.
I don't think so.

I think that our allies are trying like hell to not get involved in our political reality and want us to clean up our own mess here, while they shore up their societies who are under the same assault from the Russian military.

And really are looking forward to the moment that America is done being rocked by the sucker punch the Russian military did to our society, shakes off and faces the attack, and all of our nations can come together to stop this attack as one.

Biden (I read somewhere (so this might be bullshit, I will double check and change if I am wrong)) already said his team is not in contact with anyone in the government but is indeed reaching out to all the people Trump fires to vet for his team.

Which forces Trump to have to consider anyone who gets fired unloading all the information directly to Biden, so if he fires say the CIA head, Biden can hire her and let her get her team ready not even needing to know what it is that she knows, because she already knows what needs to be done. So Trump might be screwing him self faster if he fires these people.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I don't think so.

I think that our allies are trying like hell to not get involved in our political reality and want us to clean up our own mess here, while they shore up their societies who are under the same assault from the Russian military.

And really are looking forward to the moment that America is done being rocked by the sucker punch the Russian military did to our society, shakes off and faces the attack, and all of our nations can come together to stop this attack as one.

Biden (I read somewhere (so this might be bullshit, I will double check and change if I am wrong)) already said his team is not in contact with anyone in the government but is indeed reaching out to all the people Trump fires to vet for his team.

Which forces Trump to have to consider anyone who gets fired unloading all the information directly to Biden, so if he fires say the CIA head, Biden can hire her and let her get her team ready not even needing to know what it is that she knows, because she already knows what needs to be done. So Trump might be screwing him self faster if he fires these people.
Internal American politics yes, Russian cyberactivity not so much, we are at war with these morons too and you were and are a target as are we. It's one of those things where allies are very useful and empower you enormously, shared adversary is a great motivation for cooperation, ask any general.

Biden will have an enormous list of experienced talent to choose from, the operative words being experienced and competence. Ron Klain is doing the picking and by all accounts he is an excellent pick himself for Joe's chief of staff. Amateur hour is over the pros are moving in and the first order of business is to light a fire under Donald's ass for agency access.
 

Budley Doright

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I just heard he has blocked Biden access to the corona task force ...... what a douche ..... actually I take that back.....a douche can be useful, he is not! It there not anything that can be done to limit the harm he and his sycophants are trying to do? As I said this fight will be a tough one I fear. Stay safe!!!
 

Budley Doright

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Speaking of which our premiere seems to be back licking the testes of Trump once again. We’re on the edge of “we’re fucked” as bars, theatres, and gyms stay open. Feds hinted at stepping in and were told to stay the fuck out of the provinces business. Sound familiar?
 

hanimmal

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Speaking of which our premiere seems to be back licking the testes of Trump once again. We’re on the edge of “we’re fucked” as bars, theatres, and gyms stay open. Feds hinted at stepping in and were told to stay the fuck out of the provinces business. Sound familiar?
It was only a matter of time. I wish you all well across the border. It was never just our democracy that was being messed with by this attack.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Speaking of which our premiere seems to be back licking the testes of Trump once again. We’re on the edge of “we’re fucked” as bars, theatres, and gyms stay open. Feds hinted at stepping in and were told to stay the fuck out of the provinces business. Sound familiar?
Make it a crime for any government official to be a stupid cunt and wait a week for Doug.
 

Fogdog

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Prove how it be beneficial for the economy or labourer
Denmark has a minimum wage that is negotiated between unions and labor. Minimum wage in 2020 is $16.60/hr


If your assertion were true then that country would be a shithole.

Denmark performs very well in many measures of well-being relative to most other countries in the Better Life Index. Denmark ranks above the average in many dimensions: housing, work-life balance, social connections, environmental quality, civic engagement, education and skills, jobs and earnings, work-life balance, health status, subjective well-being and personal security. It ranks below average in income and wealth. These rankings are based on available selected data.

But you've drunk the Kool-aide, so I don't think you are able to understand facts. I get that you will focus on the two metrics that in fact have little to do with the well being of a nation's population. Republicans and their fake philosophy hilariously termed "libertarians" know the cost of everything and the value of nothing.
 
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