Plants sprouted in coco - feed?

Cvntcrusher

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Hey guys. The 4 new beans broke soil today. Should I water them with 1/4 strength? Or just water for a couple days.... sorry for the questions about coco. First time. Wanna be sure I do it right.

Medium is Mother Earth coco perlite 70/30
 

HydroKid239

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Hey guys. The 4 new beans broke soil today. Should I water them with 1/4 strength? Or just water for a couple days.... sorry for the questions about coco. First time. Wanna be sure I do it right.

Medium is Mother Earth coco perlite 70/30
Is the coco treated? (I think that’s what it’s called)
 

Cvntcrusher

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Apparently 3 days from sprout start using 1/4str.

I gave plain water today. Tomorrow I will start 1/4 str.
 

kovidkough

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I also followed dubxxl he turned me onto megacrop and he also uses coco i just prefer 100% perlite it doesn't need the extra calmag , are you using tap water or RO?
 

kovidkough

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Tap water. We have well water. I always fill gallons. Let sit for a day then use
Works great
I see perhaps you may consider RO eventually but time will tell if your tap works. I think someone else can explain the science of why coco steals calmag or why you need more but I think its easily remedied with RO and calmag supplements, takes some guesswork out.
 

Cvntcrusher

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I shouldn't have to give them calmag. But was thinking about giving them calmag once a week. Also going to start feeding them tomorrow. 1/4 str
 

twentyeight.threefive

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I think someone else can explain the science of why coco steals
Coco is a high cation exchange capacity medium. These cation sites are naturally loaded with sodium and potassium if the coco is not buffered. When unbuffered coco is feed nutrient water it will pull the calcium and magnesium out of the feed and attach to these cation sites, basically robbing the plant of available calcium and magnesium.

"Before you use coco, it should be properly rinsed, buffered and mixed with perlite. Be sure to see our video and tutorial for “How to Prepare and Buffer Coco Coir”. The buffering process is crucial to prepare the coco for plants, and especially seedlings.
As I explain in the article, “Why You Need Cal/Mag in Coco”, the coco itself has cation exchange sites that need to be filled with calcium or magnesium. Buffering the coco allows you to satisfy the majority of the cation exchange sites. However, during the grow, more cation exchange sites are continuously exposed, which require additional CalMag. The coco will take its share of the calcium and magnesium before the plant has a chance, so if you do not provide enough, the plant will suffer.
Calcium and magnesium deficiencies are common problems with plants grown in coco. It is especially difficult to deal with CalMag problems during the seedling stage. This is because the coco is taking the Ca and Mg from the nutrient solution. However, you cannot simply increase the dose. You are limited in the amount of CalMag that you can provide to seedlings because they cannot tolerate a solution with high Electrical Conductivity (EC). CalMag has a strong impact on EC so when seedlings do suffer Ca or Mg deficiencies, they can be tough to correct. If you do encounter problems with Ca or Mg deficiency during the seedling stage, we have suggestions for you below. However, it is best to avoid the problems in the first place by properly preparing your coco."
 

Star Dog

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Coco is a high cation exchange capacity medium. These cation sites are naturally loaded with sodium and potassium if the coco is not buffered. When unbuffered coco is feed nutrient water it will pull the calcium and magnesium out of the feed and attach to these cation sites, basically robbing the plant of available calcium and magnesium.

"Before you use coco, it should be properly rinsed, buffered and mixed with perlite. Be sure to see our video and tutorial for “How to Prepare and Buffer Coco Coir”. The buffering process is crucial to prepare the coco for plants, and especially seedlings.
As I explain in the article, “Why You Need Cal/Mag in Coco”, the coco itself has cation exchange sites that need to be filled with calcium or magnesium. Buffering the coco allows you to satisfy the majority of the cation exchange sites. However, during the grow, more cation exchange sites are continuously exposed, which require additional CalMag. The coco will take its share of the calcium and magnesium before the plant has a chance, so if you do not provide enough, the plant will suffer.
Calcium and magnesium deficiencies are common problems with plants grown in coco. It is especially difficult to deal with CalMag problems during the seedling stage. This is because the coco is taking the Ca and Mg from the nutrient solution. However, you cannot simply increase the dose. You are limited in the amount of CalMag that you can provide to seedlings because they cannot tolerate a solution with high Electrical Conductivity (EC). CalMag has a strong impact on EC so when seedlings do suffer Ca or Mg deficiencies, they can be tough to correct. If you do encounter problems with Ca or Mg deficiency during the seedling stage, we have suggestions for you below. However, it is best to avoid the problems in the first place by properly preparing your coco."
I'll read the links when I've time to take it in but I've a quick question, I don't use calmag and don't get any issues I'm aware of, would there be any benefits to adding some daily/weekly?

Edit...
I've read through why coco needs calmag and it would suggest that I should use it, however I've not seen any of calmag deficiencies on my plants, does that mean my water supply has sufficient amounts?
If my water supply has sufficient calmag would additional calmag cause problems or be benificial?

Thanks SD
 
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twentyeight.threefive

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I'll read the links when I've time to take it in but I've a quick question, I don't use calmag and don't get any issues I'm aware of, would there be any benefits to adding some daily/weekly?

Edit...
I've read through why coco needs calmag and it would suggest that I should use it, however I've not seen any of calmag deficiencies on my plants, does that mean my water supply has sufficient amounts?
If my water supply has sufficient calmag would additional calmag cause problems or be benificial?

Thanks SD
Tap water is going to have various amounts of elements like calcium and magnesium depending on where you live and the water source. I had an entire veg on my last auto run where they were fine on base nutrients until preflower. I caught the signs and supplemented calmag through the rest of the grow.

IMO no need to add calmag if the coco is buffered and they are healthy. Why add something, if the plant isn't looking for it.
My new tap water is 36 ppm, I don't have much of a choice now.
 
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