First time in coco need helps guys

[MickFoster]

I know this website i read it a lot but maybe iam afraid of doing EXACTLY whats they state to do...

You guys think i should water every day till run off?

10% of the size pot should make it run off if watered every day?

At light on or before lights off or before lights on?

Dude.......follow what they say to the letter.......they know what they're talking about. Get the soil growing technique out of your mind.
Obviously what you've been doing isn't working.
Yes........feed every day to run off.
I don't measure my run off......I just pour until it starts coming out the bottom.
I always do my first feed at when the lights go on........my second feed about 6-8 hours later when in flower.

 

[twentyeight.threefive]

I know this website i read it a lot but maybe iam afraid of doing EXACTLY whats they state to do...

You guys think i should water every day till run off?

10% of the size pot should make it run off if watered every day?

At light on or before lights off or before lights on?

Yes pretty much exactly as the website says. Feed every day until runoff. Doesn’t matter how much feed goes in, just water until you get some decent runoff.. again. DAILY. Coming from the mindset of a soil grow it's definitely going to feel like you are overwatering. But it's coco not soil, different beast. GL.

 

[Marijanecoop]

Ok then ill just feed everyday till run off...

 

[Doug Dawson]

Ok then ill just feed everyday till run off...

Yes, you were given very solid advice by a few members here. If you follow it your plants will thank you.

 

[Marijanecoop]

Yes, you were given very solid advice by a few members here. If you follow it your plants will thank you.

Thanks doug today i just went and gave 5 % of my container 800ml ( 4gal container) when light came on and had a run off...i put my timers now to feed 2 times a day when 1hr before lights on and 9hrs later...

Thanks guys will let u know ehit some pics

 

[TintEastwood]

Some watering info. (fertigating with nutes for us cocoholics)


Distribution of water and nutrient
Let’s just talk about the water distribution because where the water goes, the media can be flushed and the nutrient solution goes. I will talk about the distribution from two points. The length of time it takes to give the water and the number of points the water is delivered too.


The speed that the water is applied determines how much it spreads sideways and how much it goes straight down. If the water is applied very fast, you get a good broad coverage on the surface but not necessarily very deep or wide. If you apply the water at the same speed that it soaks into the surface you will get a deeper coverage but not necessarily very wide coverage. If you apply the water at such a rate that the water begins to move sideways as fast or close to as fast as it moves down through the pot, then you can get a greater coverage both in depth and sideways. This helps to allow root growth throughout the growing media, giving a constant supply of moisture and nutrients as well as reducing the build-up of salts. Many commercial growers use drippers so that the water and feed solution literally drips onto the media taking 1-2 minutes to apply 60 ml of water.


If you give a half-gallon of water to a pot (or a plant in the ground) that is about 15inches in diameter, in 10 seconds or less the whole top of the pot will become wet and the media that is close to the pot on the sides. The media that is 1inch in from the side half way down the pot may be dry. If you take that same half gallon and divide it into 8 equal parts (1 cup) and every hour pour the cup of water slowly onto the media you will get a much more uniform distribution of the water and nutrient.
The number of points that the water is applied to in each plant also has a big influence on how well the water is distributed. A 15inch pot with one slow dripper would take a long time to apply enough water and would not distribute it very well – there is a limit to how far water will travel sideways in growing media. But if you put 4 drippers evenly spaced around the top of the pot your water and nutrients will be distributed quite evenly.


This is a way of thinking about watering; each set-up has to work out the details of how much water is given and how often it is applied. You have to take into account the size of the pot, size of the plant, temperature, amount of air movement, the type of growing (how much water it holds), etc. to work out the exact plan. And of course it takes lots of trial and error. Again practice makes a better grower. Don’t expect to get it right in the beginning – failure teaches us to perform better.

 

[Marijanecoop]

I see tint. I was thinking about it ...now iam sure about it helping.

I will split add a dripper per pot and make it run more mins and less speed...just more hardware doing that tommorrow or aftwr tomorrow

Thanks tent

 

[TintEastwood]

I see tint. I was thinking about it ...now iam sure about it helping.

I will split add a dripper per pot and make it run more mins and less speed...just more hardware doing that tommorrow or aftwr tomorrow

Thanks tent

Good move!

My cobbled system for ref..

Seven Sisters

Real solid Tint, those girls are praying!

www.rollitup.org

 

[Marijanecoop]

Good move!

My cobbled system for ref..

Seven Sisters

Real solid Tint, those girls are praying!

www.rollitup.org

Nice irrigation setup brother.

I was thinking about the matrix of flora...$$$$ next crop

 

[bk78]

So happy you replied buddy.
I think i will restart giving water every day?
My hydro store fuy told me he waters evry 2 days when plant and roots are developped.

Problem is i dont even see roots go threw holes of pot yet and in soil after a week i would of see some.

Maybe im not letting dry enought?
Or maybe i dont give them enought? Lol

You say you have 0 roots showing yet. That’s from overwatering, yes coco can be overwatered if you don’t have a established root system to water.

Here’s my roots 5 days after up potting from 1 gallon to 3 gallon letting my pots of coco fully dry out in between feeds. I always let my pots fully dry back before the next feed and have never had a issue with it Other then explosive growth.

 

[Marijanecoop]

Your medium doesnt look like coco coir?

And why us everybuddy saying to water daily?
Even my hydro store guy told me he waters every 2 days at bloom stage....

 

[Marijanecoop]

The roots tho omg thats my dream having those roots

 

[Marijanecoop]

You say you have 0 roots showing yet. That’s from overwatering, yes coco can be overwatered if you don’t have a established root system to water.

Here’s my roots 5 days after up potting from 1 gallon to 3 gallon letting my pots of coco fully dry out in between feeds. I always let my pots fully dry back before the next feed and have never had a issue with it Other then explosive growth.



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When roots are not fully like that you say i should not water everyday because it is overwatered? Thats what i do in soul but coco?...lost

 

[MickFoster]

This is my root system after just 2 weeks from sprout........fed to run off every day, never letting it dry out.

Proof that the roots grow just fine when saturated.
Roots grow just fine submerged in DWC.......all they need is oxygen, and there is plenty of oxygen in saturated coco.

 

[bk78]

Your medium doesnt look like coco coir?

And why us everybuddy saying to water daily?
Even my hydro store guy told me he waters every 2 days at bloom stage....

Its most definitely coco

 

[bk78]

This is my root system after just 2 weeks from sprout........fed to run off every day, never letting it dry out.
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Could be much better with dry backs.

 

[Marijanecoop]

Could be much better with dry backs.

Problem is that i planted clone to 4 gal straight...didnt have patients to transplant to 1gal then 4 gal...

 

[bk78]

This is my root system after just 2 weeks from sprout........fed to run off every day, never letting it dry out.
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Proof that the roots grow just fine when saturated.
Roots grow just fine submerged in DWC.......all they need is oxygen, and there is plenty of oxygen in saturated coco.

Is this supposed to be impressive for 2 weeks of growth?

 

[Marijanecoop]

Is this supposed to be impressive for 2 weeks of growth?

From sprout...seeds 2 leafs yes it is for me bro...how you acheive getting more roots then that in 2 weeks ...you hand water? Run off? How many times you water at clone stage and then 2 weeks later?

 

[Twohearted]

I have done many grows is coco, coco is not soil, you seem to keep thinking of it as soil.

listen to the people that told you to use the information on www.cocoforcannabis.com, not the guy at your grow store. If he told you to water coco every two days then he does not understand how to grow in coco and his opinion should be disregarded.

The Canna nutrients website also has a wealth of good information about growing in coco.

The bottom line is:
Water everyday, usually 1-3 times.
Always water with nutrients.
Always water to 10-20% runoff.
Always make sure you have a base calmag level of at least 0.4 EC, in fact most people have tap water that is perfect for growing in coco.
Always make sure that the coco you are using is pre-charged with calmag OR be sure to do that if it’s not (calmag is very important to coco grow, and understanding how it works in the grow will help you understand why coco must be treated so differently than soil).

There is a lot more to know about coco, but these are some of the key points. Read up on the Canna website and cocoforcannabis, forget what the dude at the grow store told you, and it will all start to come together.

Once you get coco down it is one of the most rewarding and productive mediums.

Happy growing!