Can I use Flora series, Diamond Nectar and Roots excelurator together ?
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Caliverner
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I think you can someone will chime in
my question is will it ruin the Roots excelurator which has benefitcial bactrias and stuff..
Doug Dawson
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Absolutely. With my first plant I used the GH advanced system which consists of 13 separate products. Use half to 1/3 of the recommended amounts. I used the GH root enhancer thought so keep that in mind.
Renfro
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Just add the roots excelurator last. All will be just fine.
WintersBones
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I'm not familiar with Roots excelurator but I doubt it is a problem. GH flora is meant for hydro and works with beneficial bacteria. I use a different microbial additive with GH myself.
I always go half strength from this chart and its working :]
I followed this chart two times and had my plants overfed
Doug Dawson
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Yeah, nute companies are horrible for telling people to over feed. Plants are much better at it and will let you know if there is anything too strong or if you need to add more. Good luck bud.
cheers mate :]
Doug Dawson
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My pleasure. Welcome to RIU.
Renfro
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How strong to feed the plants depends a great deal on environment. If you have a really well dialed in grow and you are pushing the plants hard with intense lighting, CO2, warm temps they can eat significantly more feed without any burning. If you have the same plants in a grow thats not dialed in they simply won't eat as much.
All that said, some nute manufacturers have people adding way too much regardless. I guess they just want to sell nutes.
One big thing to keep in mind is balance. Keeping your feed balanced for the stage of growth is critical to getting the best results. For example, one could get burnt plants from using a feed that is only 700 PPM but has a lot of nitrogen and is low on P&K. I have seen plants with a potassium deficiency and the claw from too much nitrogen for example.
All that said, some nute manufacturers have people adding way too much regardless. I guess they just want to sell nutes.
One big thing to keep in mind is balance. Keeping your feed balanced for the stage of growth is critical to getting the best results. For example, one could get burnt plants from using a feed that is only 700 PPM but has a lot of nitrogen and is low on P&K. I have seen plants with a potassium deficiency and the claw from too much nitrogen for example.
Mars Hydro TS1000 18H/6h cycle keeping the grow tent in like 23-25 degres.
Anything I use I do half strength or 1/4 strength...except of the Roots excelurator which is not a lot at all anyway.
Btw the methhodis kratky, and Im willing to do a holl in the buckets air stone soon.
The tent setup is quite new and the plants are a bit old, right now the M/S is 0.3 which is nothing but they do great.
Im willing to change the nute for the older one and add the Diamond nectar and the Roots Excelurator.
The bucket are 5-6L, and I use to put everthing balanced. (the same for all Micro, Grow and Bloom)
So what im thinking is to put the followimg
3 ML
each (Micro,Grow and Bloom)
2ml Cal-mag
2.5 ml nectar
roots exaculator 0.3ml
And hopping for the best... Ill look what the m/s or ppm will be and Im aiming for about 500-700.
Im willing to change the nute for the older one and add the Diamond nectar and the Roots Excelurator.
The bucket are 5-6L, and I use to put everthing balanced. (the same for all Micro, Grow and Bloom)
So what im thinking is to put the followimg
3 ML
each (Micro,Grow and Bloom)
2ml Cal-mag
2.5 ml nectar
roots exaculator 0.3ml
And hopping for the best... Ill look what the m/s or ppm will be and Im aiming for about 500-700.
Renfro
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The roots excelurator isn't a nutrient, it's beneficial bacteria. You can't really over do it with the bennies.
It's the bottles of salt water that we are concerned with using too much. I say salt water because thats basically what bottled nutrients are, water with a bunch of different salts added. I personally love the GH Flora 3 part nutrients, I have been using them since 1989. I don't use them according to the label though and I often use a little dry salt additions here and there.
A good EC meter and a reliable pH meter are things I wouldn't want to be without.
Renfro
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Are you using RO water? What is the PPM of the h2o? What brand calmag? Is it calimagic? If using <10 PPM RO water I go straight to 5 ml per gallon of calmag so I can get the water right. Then micro, grow and bloom. Always in that order, calimagic, micro, grow, bloom.
The EC meter is great but the pH one is a bit cheap.
Yes its RO water.
I was a big newbie when I bought the nute so the store didnt have cal-magic so they said Johnny Green Cal-mag is the same so I took it .. so Im using it.
I have ATAMI Cal-mag as well but havent used it yet.
Renfro
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A nice veg / early flower mix for the GH using RO water is
#'s are ml/gal
CM: 5
M: 6.67
G: 6.67
B: 8.33
If I run my tap water (180 PPM) I found that 2.33 ml/gal calimagic and .33 grams of epsom salt worked instead of the 5 ml of calimagic I used with the RO. Everyone has different tap water but thats an example of how you can handle tap water. If I had water with more than 200 - 250 PPM I would stick with the RO filter but I am doing just fine without it right now.
Calimagic is the best calmag IMO, it has less nitrogen.
#'s are ml/gal
CM: 5
M: 6.67
G: 6.67
B: 8.33
If I run my tap water (180 PPM) I found that 2.33 ml/gal calimagic and .33 grams of epsom salt worked instead of the 5 ml of calimagic I used with the RO. Everyone has different tap water but thats an example of how you can handle tap water. If I had water with more than 200 - 250 PPM I would stick with the RO filter but I am doing just fine without it right now.
Calimagic is the best calmag IMO, it has less nitrogen.
The tap water here is 500 ppm out of the faucet.. :/
That mix sounds decent, Ill go for it and Ill add the Diamond Nectar and the Roots Excelurator.
I dont mind the lighting but I dont have CO2 to add