First Time Shroom Grower PF-Tek

[jollygreengiant8]

once you see all those baby shrooms starting to pop out its not as bad.
i mean before all i had was jars of some white stuff..not too exciting
but now i can see the shrooms starting and know that it wont be long, plus they look all crazy..i often find myself with my face against the glass trying to get a good look through the condensation and figure out exactly whats going on in there.


oh yeah the third cake now has its first pin.

 

[Kushcrosser]

You need to give them some fresh air a few times a day, because the myc puts off CO2. I use 2 64qt clear tubs, and cut golfball sixed holes and stuff them with polyfill. Here is a pic of my grow chamber. Also, wild bird seed is the way to go!

 

[Kushcrosser]

Not tryin to jack your thread, but if you wanna grow the strongest strain....Penis Envy will blow your mind!! Also, next time you use tape, use Nexcare flexable tape. It has micro pores so the myc can breath. You can find it in the first aid section about anywhere. Here is some PE for you.

 

[jollygreengiant8]

damn man..very nice, thank you for sharing those pictures

i open it up and fan it out every few hours.

and i will try the birdseed sometime

 

[Kushcrosser]

damn man..very nice, thank you for sharing those pictures

i open it up and fan it out every few hours.

and i will try the birdseed sometime

Yes, try to fan atleast 2 to 3 times a day. They thrive for oxygen. There is no need to fan if you can cut holes and use pollyfill, it acts like a filter, so you wont have to worry about contams.

 

[jollygreengiant8]

im here most of the time so throughout the day i fan probably 5-6 times..

i wanted to ask you what you keep your temp at in your fc
and also have you ever used rye and do WBS and rye perform any different or do they basically function the same..
last one, do you inoculate the birdseed with a liquid culture or with spores?

ive wanted to try casings since i started this project..but i thought it might be too difficult or advanced so i thought i might try it after this pf-tek..well those shrooms are popping up and im seeing that its not so hard. hardest part is trying to keep decent temps in my poorly insulated house.

 

[bobharvey]

I looked this morning and saw little mushrooms starting on two of my cakes and I stared at them for like 30 minutes haha. I am interested in casing with birdseed as well, since I don't even know where to get rye.

 

[jollygreengiant8]

are you growing mushrooms for the first time bob?
anyway, congrats on the little shroomies..that didnt take too long
youll be killing your ego in no time

 

[bobharvey]

Yeah Jolly this is my first go around and luckily I haven't had any problem with contams.

I did the pf tek. One the first 6 jars I used BRF. Out of those 6 5 fully colonized and one didn't do anything ( I may have missed it with the needle idk). A week later I knocked up 6 more jars but instead of BRF I used just regular Brown Rice. Anyways the last six jars haven't fully colonized the jar because I guess the mycelium went straight for the rice and dismissed a lot of the verm around it. Oh well, I'll be sure to never do it again, lesson learned. I'm going to take the last six jars and try to do a casing layer so maybe I can get some shrooms out of it. We'll see.

As far as the ego goes, I have been studying a lot of different religions and philosophies. I been meditating a lot too. As far as I can tell the Ego is necessary but in a weird paradox it keeps you from seeing the Truth. So after a lot of study I've decided that instead of spending years in deep meditation I will ingest like 6 grams of shrooms to kill it, if only momentarily. At least I hear when you kill it time goes too (because it is only a mental construct) so even if it only dies for a second that second will be forever haha. I believe terrence mckenna said that meditation is all we have left from past religious ceremonies and that weed and shrooms should be used in conjunction with meditation.

 

[misterdogman]

Yes, try to fan atleast 2 to 3 times a day. They thrive for oxygen. There is no need to fan if you can cut holes and use pollyfill, it acts like a filter, so you wont have to worry about contams.

This is the best way...almost exactly like mine but I now only make 2 ,2 inch holes in my tubs and mine are only 20 gallons but I use a small inebulizer basically a big fish pump and run Ts off it to provide each tub with its own low pressure O2 supply...a t5 or t8 aquarium light, some colonized millet spawned to a Horse poo mix and your off like a prom dress...
wall to wall flushes with more custom substrate...

try a 1:1:1:1 ratio of Hpoo, coco coir, worm castings, straw, with 5-10% gypsum by volume(about a quart) and about 3 cups of vermiculite...makes about several gallons or tubs worth.

WAY easier than the the PF crap TEK, no dunking or rolling BS no cold shocking no crap, just a pressure cooker is extra...which I think the poster said they have already...your already set up to do it.
or you CAN take your pf cakes and spawn them to this mix too, millet and rye are just better, IMO millet is best cheapest easiest to prepare but rye is good...but if youve gone this far just realise how much easier this is and you wont ever go back once you get 5 flushes back to back and several ounces out of one tub in a month...

 

[misterdogman]

Not tryin to jack your thread, but if you wanna grow the strongest strain....Penis Envy will blow your mind!! Also, next time you use tape, use Nexcare flexable tape. It has micro pores so the myc can breath. You can find it in the first aid section about anywhere. Here is some PE for you.

I guarantee Lipa Yais are stronger and more contam resistant...But a cubes a cube after all...

 

[Skinflute]

OMG!!!! Just ate my first shroom. Thought I was going to vomit twice trying to get it to go down.....
I picked out 5 good sized babies, 48 grams fresh, hoping this wont be too much.
I figure 48 fresh is the same as 4 to 5 dried?
aaaaaaccccckk , gonna be sick,,, maybe not , just got half of 2nd one down.
This is nasty, even chasing them with OJ. \
3 1/2 more to go, wish me luck

 

[Skinflute]

Damn, their so chewy. I didn't know I had a Gag reflex till just now. Taking everything I got to get them chewed up and chased with orange juice before almost puking them back up....

3 1/2 down
1 1/2 to go
need to go lick the cat's asshole to get this nasty taste out of my mouth. Dog does it all day, so it must not be too bad.







....

 

[misterdogman]

Just throw them on a little peanut butter bread and wolf it down...or crush mix with copius amounts of juice and slam it...on a empty stomach.
I think most of them are awful too but maybe thats from too long of a period smelling them and smelling mycelium, you dont eat Mcdonalds if you work there either so same concept because I use to love them, now I cant gag them down.

 

[Kushcrosser]

im here most of the time so throughout the day i fan probably 5-6 times..

i wanted to ask you what you keep your temp at in your fc
and also have you ever used rye and do WBS and rye perform any different or do they basically function the same..
last one, do you inoculate the birdseed with a liquid culture or with spores?

ive wanted to try casings since i started this project..but i thought it might be too difficult or advanced so i thought i might try it after this pf-tek..well those shrooms are popping up and im seeing that its not so hard. hardest part is trying to keep decent temps in my poorly insulated house.

I keep my fc at 70, and yes I have used rye but WBS is better in my opinion. You dont have to add calcium, the WBS has TONS of nutes! WBS and verm. is all you need to go bulk. It is not as hard as you think! I simmer my WBS in a pan on med heat for about 15 min constantly stiring. You dont want to let it come to a full boil, or the WBS will burst open and get contaminated during colonization. Fill your jars 3/4 full of WBS (so you can shake the myc up when its time)and PC for 1 hr at 15 psi, and when its done let cool for atleast 8hrs. Next, inoculate with spores and seal the holes with micro-pore tape (so the myc can breath) and put in your incubator. Once the jars are about 40 to 50% colonized, shake the hell out of them. This will speed up colonization BIGTIME! When they are 100% colonized, take a gall. sized zip-loc and dump the myc in and break it all up to where there is no large chunks. Next take moist verm(NOT WET) and add equal parts to the WBS and mix them together in the zip-loc. Now take an aluminum pan (I use 8 x 8 )and fill with the WBS and verm at about 2 in deep and spread it out as even as you can. Now, take foil and cover up the tin and poke a few small holes in the top so it can breath. Put back in the FC and within 3 days it should be fully colonized. Now its time to case, its verry simple! Take some moist verm (doesnt have to be steralized either)and spread it on at 1/4 in. and NOT any deeper or it will take a day or 2 longer to pin. Next put it in your FC, and put on 12/12 and wait for your rewards! You can mist the casing layer till you see myc...then stop or the pins will abort from too much moisture. Here is a pic of a fully colonized tray

 

[Kushcrosser]

Here is some I did in plastic tuperware...you can use about anything!

 

[misterdogman]

I dont even simmer WBS, this is why i love and use it only. Soak for 24 hours in hot water, pouring it off and refilling over the 24 hour period. Sometimes 36 hours but any longer and youll get infested grain. Key is to hatch all endospores fast and rinse them out...then into jars with verm and a little gypsum...PC with Tyvek, lids and holes ....Viola.

 

[Kushcrosser]

I dont even simmer WBS, this is why i love and use it only. Soak for 24 hours in hot water, pouring it off and refilling over the 24 hour period. Sometimes 36 hours but any longer and youll get infested grain. Key is to hatch all endospores fast and rinse them out...then into jars with verm and a little gypsum...PC with Tyvek, lids and holes ....Viola.

Simmering just cuts out alot of soaking time. As long as they dont burst on you, or its time to start over. Me myself, I dont like Tyvek, if it gets wet, you have got contams. Hell, most of the time I get 3 or 4 flushes from a tray. Here is another colonized tray.

 

[jollygreengiant8]

im going to have to do this now..it seems so simple with nice rewards.

WBS..any specific kind? or any wild birdseed mix? im clueless..im sorry
also, where do you find tyvek?

and Kush, you said
"take an aluminum pan (I use 8 x 8 )and fill with the WBS and verm at about 2 in deep and spread it out as even as you can. Now, take foil and cover up the tin and poke a few small holes in the top so it can breath. Put back in the FC and within 3 days it should be fully colonized."

do you mix the myceilum in with the wbs and verm or a layer of myceilum ontop and then cover that with a quarter inch of verm?

i will start to get the materials i need together and try my hand at casings

thanks for all info people

 

[Skinflute]

Thanks Misterdogman
have 3 2" stems left and I just cant do it.
going to try the peanut butter sandwich....
but already kickin in strong Oh Yeah