Real GG#4???

StoneyJake

StoneyJake

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booms111 said:
You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink it, eh? We know what is what, lol!

That was a S1 not the real clone only just as whatever you have is not the original clone only so its not as the title of the thread is "Real GG#4". You cant accept the fact there is only one original clone? Why is that? Im not saying whatever cross or S1 you have isnt good all im saying is it is not the original clone only that JW put out many years ago. You obviously dont understand genetics and the history of glue, but thats ok just do some research and you will see why i said ignorant(not informed) and as you said youve been out of the game for a bit so i understand. No hard feeling brother, id give you a clone of her if i personally knew you just as everyone should give her out freely as JW wished.
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LMAO you obviously have no idea what you are talking about. You think you understand gentetics when you are going on about a clipping from one plant? LMAO The arrogance and ignorance in your comment is crazy. Why would i want your trash clone? Mine are WAY better LMAO.
the title should say "real GG#4 CLONE" if thats what he meant. Or "real Josey GG#4 clone" if thats the ONLY PLANT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT LMAO. Again i didnt realize you people were talking about a clone from the og GG#4. I think anyone with a brain knows NONE of you have that but keep on dreaming.
Some people are beyond help. You fan boys can have fun in your circle jerk growing mids
 
StoneyJake

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pulpoinspace said:
hey jake. it is actually. and thats what the #4 tells you. any strain with a number in the name is going to be clone only because the number is signifying which phenotype it is from the original pheno hunt.

source: http://www.ggstrains.com/our-strains/

"Form: Cup winning Clone only"

"STORY: Gorilla Glue # 4 was accidently created by Joesy Whales when some Chem Sis plants he was growing hermied and pollinated his Sour Dubb. Tired of seeded gardens, Joesy tossed out the strain. But his buddy, Mardogg, still had some seeds. Mardogg popped the beans years later and ended up with 4 pheno's of the GG, deciding #4 was worth keeping."

Now, of course no strain is reallly clone only. Anybody can use the same parents and make the strain again. But #4 is clone only.

Hope that helps.
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How can you act like you know anyting saying things like " it is actually. and thats what the #4 tells you":wall:. Even your quote disproves that. Some of you are all over the place and obviously dont know what the hell you are talking about. LMAO. You should probably read a little kid
Like i told the other guy, Have fun in your fanboy circle jerk
 
StoneyJake

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pulpoinspace said:
hey jake. it is actually. and thats what the #4 tells you. any strain with a number in the name is going to be clone only because the number is signifying which phenotype it is from the original pheno hunt.

source: http://www.ggstrains.com/our-strains/

"Form: Cup winning Clone only"

"STORY: Gorilla Glue # 4 was accidently created by Joesy Whales when some Chem Sis plants he was growing hermied and pollinated his Sour Dubb. Tired of seeded gardens, Joesy tossed out the strain. But his buddy, Mardogg, still had some seeds. Mardogg popped the beans years later and ended up with 4 pheno's of the GG, deciding #4 was worth keeping."

Now, of course no strain is reallly clone only. Anybody can use the same parents and make the strain again. But #4 is clone only.

Hope that helps.
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"Now, of course no strain is reallly clone only. Anybody can use the same parents and make the strain again. But #4 is clone only"(other than the S1s of course LOL)
this sums of your argument or lack thereof perfectly. Thanks
 
MICHI-CAN

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StoneyJake said:
"Now, of course no strain is reallly clone only. Anybody can use the same parents and make the strain again. But #4 is clone only"(other than the S1s of course LOL)
this sums of your argument or lack thereof perfectly. Thanks
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Highly respected West Coast grower provided these. Known and trusted on the site. But I'm supposed to believe their fake because they are seeds from a clone?? I'll stick with Stoneys point of view. 001.jpg
 
pulpoinspace

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StoneyJake said:
"Now, of course no strain is reallly clone only. Anybody can use the same parents and make the strain again. But #4 is clone only"(other than the S1s of course LOL)
this sums of your argument or lack thereof perfectly. Thanks
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My point was, you can make the argument that "Gorilla Glue" or "Original Glue" isn't clone only. But Gorilla Glue #4 most certainly is. read my post again.

To reiterate: The number is a phenotype. A phenotype from then on is clone only. Any "Strain" with a number at the end will also be clone only. i.e. Wifi 43.

Hope this helps.
 
pulpoinspace

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MICHI-CAN said:
Highly respected West Coast grower provided these. Known and trusted on the site. But I'm supposed to believe their fake because they are seeds from a clone?? I'll stick with Stoneys point of view. View attachment 4690883
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Its not that they're fake its just they're not GG4. They are just original glue seeds. You could get something better or worse than GG4. Also legit cuts of "real" GG4 are very easy to get I don't understand this whole argument.
 
MICHI-CAN

MICHI-CAN

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pulpoinspace said:
Its not that they're fake its just they're not GG4. They are just original glue seeds. You could get something better or worse than GG4. Also legit cuts of "real" GG4 are very easy to get I don't understand this whole argument.
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I'll share the view with the grower. See what they think.

Mail order clones is a no way here. Local pick up. So unless you are fortunate enough to know someone with your "Original GG4" you're out of luck. I still call vanity.
 
pulpoinspace

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MICHI-CAN said:
I'll share the view with the grower. See what they think.

Mail order clones is a no way here. Local pick up. So unless you are fortunate enough to know someone with your "Original GG4" you're out of luck. I still call vanity.
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Heres my question tho if the guy can make GG4 S1 seeds why can't he also give you a cut of the gg4? OOOOh he shipped you the seeds i'm retarded.

Yeah i mean my personal opinion is that you could get something as good or better from the seeds.
 
MICHI-CAN

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pulpoinspace said:
Heres my question tho if the guy can make GG4 S1 seeds why can't he also give you a cut of the gg4? OOOOh he shipped you the seeds i'm retarded.

Yeah i mean my personal opinion is that you could get something as good or better from the seeds.
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One is a text book example. One has just colas and another has a balanced mix of colas and golf ball nuggs. My favorite which is an unknown EU freak chance seed blows dispensary "real GG4 @26% THC " away. And I've smoked bunches of GG. Better is always a pull of the handle away.
 
pulpoinspace

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MICHI-CAN said:
One is a text book example. One has just colas and another has a balanced mix of colas and golf ball nuggs. My favorite which is an unknown EU freak chance seed blows dispensary "real GG4 @26% THC " away. And I've smoked bunches of GG. Better is always a pull of the handle away.
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yeah i mean what you have isnt fake at all. its exactly what it says, GG4 S1s. I'm sure they grow fire.

i was more thinking of the breeders who make some cross with the same parents and then sell them as "GG4" seeds.
 
MICHI-CAN

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MICHI-CAN

MICHI-CAN

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pulpoinspace said:
yeah i mean what you have isnt fake at all. its exactly what it says, GG4 S1s. I'm sure they grow fire.

i was more thinking of the breeders who make some cross with the same parents and then sell them as "GG4" seeds.
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Non malicious here. Just trying to sort this out is all. Thanks for the insight. Passionate like the rest. I've had GGs. Hit and miss. Never equal or better though.
 
PJ Diaz

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StoneyJake said:
GG#4 is not a clone only strain but you guys may only be refering to clones from a certain plant. Didnt realize you guys are only refering to a particular cuttings. What other strain is like that? none
Sounds like you are being pulled into some real BS for marketing reasons lol. Good luck with that bud
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Clearly you have no idea what you're talking about. GG#4 is indeed a specific cut selected by Josey. Anyone selling GG#4 seeds are trying to cash in on Josey's work.
 
PJ Diaz

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MICHI-CAN said:
I have a high end fake or 3. Real ones were rare and expensive here. All gone for a few years. People ask for mine to refind it or a close copy.

Was trying to say nothing stays the same. I get a freak every 20-30 cuts. Even yours are evolving. I hand out a ton of clones every year. Especially the good phenos and classics. Was an enlightening conversation at least.
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Tissue culture type cloning will restore the genetics to their original state. This has been done by many clone companies with GG4. It's not gone, not at all.
 
PJ Diaz

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StoneyJake said:
"Now, of course no strain is reallly clone only. Anybody can use the same parents and make the strain again. But #4 is clone only"(other than the S1s of course LOL)
this sums of your argument or lack thereof perfectly. Thanks
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That presumption assumes that everyone has access to the original parental stock. Real Blue Dream is another clone only strain. It was created in Santa Cruz by a local breeder, and is a cross between DJ Short's Blueberry, and a local Haze (Santa Cruz Haze) that the breeder had been working for a few years. Many seed companies have attempted to recreate Blue Dream by crossing Blueberry with various types of Haze, but as far as I'm aware of no one has that Santa Cruz Haze that the real Blue Dream was made from.
 
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