40+ lbs with 12 Plants in 2 Rooms on a Flip

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jonnynobody

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Flatrate said:
Hell tape the end of your shop vac hose to an old broom stick, no more bending.
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Want to hear something that will make y'all laugh at my expense? So, the wife has the grand baby at a doctor's appointment for a checkup. I promised I'd take her to the park when she gets back. She didn't know she's getting a flu shot today. I thought I'd sneak in a quick epsom salt bath. Get a nice soak in to soften the tense back muscles. Well I got a little side tracked as I tend to do with my atrocious ADD. And the tub overflowed. Caught it just as it was pushing over the edge. What was down below? 30 gallon trash can half full of trim material awaiting bubble hash processing. It only got lightly wet on top. Got it all back on the dry net. I don't know if it will be good for anything except edibles now. I swear I'm my own worst enemy some days. The worst part is I'll innevitably have to explain what happened to the wife when she sees the drying net with all the trim on it hanging in the basement. Man o man :)
 
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Cabrone said:
I know this is an old post, but would you please clarify if this is an elemental ppm or an ec meter on the 500 scale? My limited experience tells me that's not elemental ppm?
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NOT elemental, thats always lower than an EC reading at .5 scale. So if you mixed up an elemental at 1000 mg/l it would be way too strong. When I talk elemental I use mg/l
 
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Renfro said:
NOT elemental, thats always lower than an EC reading at .5 scale. So if you mixed up an elemental at 1000 mg/l it would be way too strong. When I talk elemental I use mg/l
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Thank you for the clarification. That's what I thought. I didn't want to fry my plants going off half cocked. I get enuf shit from my wife for that
 
Renfro

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A few room B shots at day 45. It feels very crowded moving around in there, plants swelled into the aisles and off the end of the rows. Yeah it could use some defoliation, any volunteers? lol I did get them lolipopped pretty hard around day 20, there was a shit ton of "inner" branches that weren't getting to light. Yeah a few branches on the oddball plants at the end of the aisles hit the floor, such is life. :roll: Got most of them tied up good enough on those two "extra" plants (they don't have an overhead light or trellis rig).

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This series of photos leads you to an aerial view down into that back corner, best as I could do. Can't really get there from here with that oddball at the end of the row.

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This room is all OCD x M15 with the exception of the two oddballs, they are Divine Gelato #3. The OCD x M15 never likes to make big logs, she prefers to make a lot of smaller buds but they are super dense and hella high resin production. Figured I would see what she does given the chance. You may remember these were brought in way smaller than usual and I did 3 per row instead of 2, started training them lower than usual and this made them literally too branchy for my liking. Did make for some nice side canopy though.
 
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These started 12/12 on 12/11/18 so they are about 23 days into flowering. Another 47ish to go.

Strain is Gorilla Glue #4. With this strain I manage 42 to 48 pounds.

Each row that has the galvanized trellis rig have 2 plants. 6 plants per room, 2 rooms on a flip. Each room has 9600 watts of lighting. 6000 DE overhead and 2400w vertical end row lights with batwings plus I use and 2 x 600 watt verticals between rows. The side lighting is on a high temperature cutoff in the rare event things get too hot.

My plants are in black 10 gallon buckets. The 2 oddball plants in the rolling white 5 gallon buckets are my girlfriends plants.

All buckets are top feed drain to waste (bucket in bucket with hose to floor drain). I use Berger BM6 HP medium. I cut my clones from plants about 14-20 days into 12/12 so as to improve branching. Once rooted and transplanted into 10 gallon buckets my plants veg for about 40 days from clone in a dedicated veg room and are then moved into the flowering rooms after a harvest and cleanup. Then they are vegged another 10-14 days to get them trellised out sideways to maximize canopy area, create more bud stalks and keep it even as possible.

Feed is General Hydroponics Flora 3 part with Armor Si and Calimagic. I also add Advanced Nutrients B52 and Age Old Mycorrhizae (dry) and Advanced Nutrients Carboload to feed those microbes. pH 6.3 to 6.7 using Advanced pH up and down.

Each room has a 4 ton ceiling mount minisplits (also on the flip with the lights), natural gas CO2 generators, autopilot controllers, swamp coolers to add humidity when required and dehumidifiers to keep it from getting to high (not a problem often here in this dry climate). RO filter provides clean H2O.

For scale purposes the galvanized pipe trellis rigs are 5 feet tall from the floor, 4 feet wide and 8 feet long.
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I don't get the one in the middle. I see the netting but what is the netting connected to?
 
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Silky T said:
I don't get the one in the middle. I see the netting but what is the netting connected to?
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The plants at the end of the aisles were not trellised, just tied up to the ceiling with twist tie wire. They are my girlfriends plants.
 
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I was reading about how you trim. Kudos on hand trimming that kind of volume. How do you store the plants as you are trimming them over the course of a month? Or is it like a staggered harvest? I'm ready to jump off a bridge trimming 3# with my wife over 5 or 6 days. I can't even imagine what you must have to go through processing a single harvest. I would have to just keep reminding myself "I hate working with other people and this is better than that." :)
 
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jonnynobody said:
I was reading about how you trim. Kudos on hand trimming that kind of volume.
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My girl does all the trim work, thats her job. She'd rather trim 8 hours a day while sitting at home with the TV on than have to get up by an alarm clock and go to a real job, can't say I blame her. She usually gets it done in about a month.
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How do you store the plants
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They are defanned at chop and stacked in bread trays. Depending on strain it's usually about 5 - 8 ounces per tray of dry trimmed flower. I have a couple hundred trays and dollies they can be stacked on and rolled around. Air flows good through them and it's easy to grab one and take it to the table to trim.
 
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Something I am going to do as an experiment, after this room is chopped...

The vertical light thats between the rows, hanging in the aisle, well it's gonna get an upgrade. Here is my thinking... The plants really expand outward towards that light from both sides, but mostly just in that one spot, centered along the 8 foot dimension of the trellis rig.

Firstly I have some galaxy 1500 watt ballasts laying around, in a box somewhere in the garage. First I gotta dig those out lol

Second, I have some light rails laying around here not in use, they are actually in my veg room with nothing hanging from them.

Thirdly, I will have to purchase a couple bulbs, base up metal halide 1500's. Already ordered a couple, that came to about 90 bucks. So that's the expense to me for this upgrade. Well that and the electricity lol.

So put the light rail up such that it's centered in the aisle, the floor joist above is nearly perfectly centered on both aisles. Hang the vertical bare bulb fixture from the light rail and set it to move back and forth down the aisle. Then pop the 1500 watt MH bulb in there and let it do some magic.

I would say the 1500 would be overkill except for the fact that it will be moving and the light is cast in 360 degrees with no reflector.

What say you all? Think it's a good ideal?
 
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I am thinking about ways to make a reflector for a vertical HID, one that would send light to both sides of the aisle, 180 degrees opposite but not waste light shooting it down the length of the aisle.

In my mind I am thinking something sorta like this (top view) >o< The >< is the metal reflector and the o is the bulb. So in this example the light would go up and down on the screen but not side to side.
 
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Renfro said:
Something I am going to do as an experiment, after this room is chopped...

The vertical light thats between the rows, hanging in the aisle, well it's gonna get an upgrade. Here is my thinking... The plants really expand outward towards that light from both sides, but mostly just in that one spot, centered along the 8 foot dimension of the trellis rig.

Firstly I have some galaxy 1500 watt ballasts laying around, in a box somewhere in the garage. First I gotta dig those out lol

Second, I have some light rails laying around here not in use, they are actually in my veg room with nothing hanging from them.

Thirdly, I will have to purchase a couple bulbs, base up metal halide 1500's. Already ordered a couple, that came to about 90 bucks. So that's the expense to me for this upgrade. Well that and the electricity lol.

So put the light rail up such that it's centered in the aisle, the floor joist above is nearly perfectly centered on both aisles. Hang the vertical bare bulb fixture from the light rail and set it to move back and forth down the aisle. Then pop the 1500 watt MH bulb in there and let it do some magic.

I would say the 1500 would be overkill except for the fact that it will be moving and the light is cast in 360 degrees with no reflector.

What say you all? Think it's a good ideal?
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i like this idea and if anyone can implement the 1500 and maximize production in the room, its you bro
 
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Renfro said:
Right? It was when I thought of the light mover option that I realized the 1500 watter could actually work in that space.
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Man I didn't even know there was such a thing as a 1500 watt light. That's badass. Love the light mover idea too. I'm experimenting with raising my PPM in the flower room after reading some of your journal. I'm wondering if I have been under feeding at 900-950PPM. I'm gonna throw 1200PPM at 'em and see what happens. I have a couple of hash plants that have some premature yellowing of the fan leaves. I figure if I see burn it's too much. If they appear more lush and healthy I'll continue until the 5 day flush before harvest. For some reason I've been apprehensive to breach 1000PPM. Not sure why that is. I'll report back the results.
 
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A fine upgrade indeed man.
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I'm pretty stoked about it. Once I had a 1000 in the middle and a few feet to either side of it was a 600, so I had 2200 watts hanging down one aisle. Of course the production was bad ass from that setup. Normally I would say a light mover just spreads yield but since I am upsizing the light wattage to 1500 I think there is potential for really improved yields all along the length of that aisle on both sides.
 
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I'm pretty stoked about it. Once I had a 1000 in the middle and a few feet to either side of it was a 600, so I had 2200 watts hanging down one aisle. Of course the production was bad ass from that setup. Normally I would say a light mover just spreads yield but since I am upsizing the light wattage to 1500 I think there is potential for really improved yields all along the length of that aisle on both sides.
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Damn, 2200 side and I’m doing 1600 total lol, oh well, personal stash. I grabbed some led strips, going to try and cook something up for some 4K in with my 1kde and lose the 600w. Really interested to see the 1500 on a mover, I agree that won’t spread yield, that will increase it, paired with your skill set for sure.
 
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