BobThe420Builder
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Use those for some tomatoes
Get Promix HP for weed
Get Promix HP for weed
Phosphorus issues during veg?
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Dontjudgeme
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I recommend going 100% organic. About as easy as it gets. No measuring Nutes, just water and you are good to go. Only ph’ing required is when you enter flower and decide to add guano, kelp, or any other P and K supplements. I do sometimes still bottle feed, but only on the small grows. My big plants are 100% organic. Not that’s it’s any better or worse, just less labor.
BobThe420Builder
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Dontjudgeme
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BobThe420Builder
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Living organic soil...LOS
Dontjudgeme
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Excuse my lack of acronym knowledge. But u think bottle feeding is easier than organic?
BobThe420Builder
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I didn't say that, but for a beginner, mixing LOS soil, while learning to grow isn't good
Why do many struggling with ffof soil
Why do many struggling with ffof soil
Dontjudgeme
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I didn’t think it got any easier than mixing an amendment into your soil. My wife has anything but a green thumb, she will kill a cactus and she’s doing perfectly fine with the organics. Bottle feeding was a disaster for her. People struggle with FFOF because they still bottle feed when it isn’t necessary. That’s why I mentioned organic, no bottle feeding required. But if you can’t get FFOF right, I guess mentioning amendments is asking too much.
BobThe420Builder
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Organics is a generic term
Are u mixing your own soil?
Are u mixing your own soil?
Dontjudgeme
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As far as I know, organic is growing without liquid fertilization. If there’s another term for it or a different way of explaining it, I’m not aware of it. But I use promix with an amendment. If that’s considered mixing my own soil then I guess I am. Didn’t know throwing some powder into soil and blending/ mixing it together was considered mixing my own soil. But if that’s too difficult to do, I don’t know how beginners are successful with bottle feeding.
BobThe420Builder
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What's your Amendment. Mixed in the soil or top dressed
There are many liquid organic nutes, heck most of Fox Farm trio is I believe
So you can't catagorize liquid nuts as not organic, or organics as not liquid
There are many liquid organic nutes, heck most of Fox Farm trio is I believe
So you can't catagorize liquid nuts as not organic, or organics as not liquid
Dontjudgeme
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I do both, amend and top dress. But how is anything synthetic organic? Now I’m really lost.
BobThe420Builder
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Same was liquid bat poop is organic
All metals are natural, but all metals aren't created equal when created into a nutrient
Lots of organic liquid nutes, and lots of crap isn't
Is steer poop organic if they are fed lots of injections and filler just to make them fat, I'd say no
Think why the organic debate is a tuff one for sure
All metals are natural, but all metals aren't created equal when created into a nutrient
Lots of organic liquid nutes, and lots of crap isn't
Is steer poop organic if they are fed lots of injections and filler just to make them fat, I'd say no
Think why the organic debate is a tuff one for sure
Dontjudgeme
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I get the whole science behind the bottled organic thing, but synthetic don’t translate to organic to me. And most people aren’t buying fully synthetic Nutes anyway. GH, Fox, Advance, and the list goes on, that’s all “ non “ organic stuff to me, I don’t care what it says on the bottle. I use roots organic grow and bloom amendments. I read the ingredients and that’s about as organic or natural as it gets. While I still use fox’s trio, that ain’t organic to me, and my wife said she can taste the difference between bottle feeding and growing organically, I personally don’t consume. So something has to be said for that. There are some organic, or natural ingredients in the trio, don’t get me wrong, but I don’t consider everything else in there to be organic or natural, it’s man made. At the end of the day, most people don’t care about all this crap anyway, if it works, people will use it, regardless of what it’s made of.
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70's natureboy
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I guess these plants look normal for an ocean forest thread. In every ocean forest thread the plants usually look the same. I tried it and they looked like everybody else's.