Does guano really "mango", or sweeten buds?

[PadawanWarrior]

Just curious if it's just me, but my first batch had lots of guano and all my buds had a fruity aftertaste that would linger on your tongue. Was it the guano?

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[rkmcdon]

It is my understanding that no, your soil additives do not directly affect the flavor of your buds, ie "sweeten" them. That being said, a well nourished plant may result in a denser, more terpenous and as a result more flavorful flower

 

[spliffendz]

Terps

 

[PadawanWarrior]

It is my understanding that no, your soil additives do not directly affect the flavor of your buds, ie "sweeten" them. That being said, a well nourished plant may result in a denser, more terpenous and as a result more flavorful flower

I understand the logic, I'm just trying to figure it out why my first batch of 6 different strains all had a strange fruity kinda aftertaste. My first guess was the guano, but now I'm wondering if it might be the Hi-Brix molasses I was using more of. There's gotta be something to this. If it was just from being more well nourished, they wouldn't all have the same kinda aftertaste, they would have more pronounced individual flavors.

My buds since then all smell and taste great, but lack that lingering aftertaste. Not that that's a bad thing because I kinda didn't like it anyways, I was just trying to figure it out. My buds now taste cleaner, but lack the weird aftertaste. No other variables have changed except the nutrients I feed. According to Royal Queen seeds the mango effect if real, but I don't know what caused the taste.

 

[Budzbuddha]

but I don't know what caused the taste.

Stop wearing lip gloss when you smoke .....


Just kidding lol.

 

[ilovereggae]

I understand the logic, I'm just trying to figure it out why my first batch of 6 different strains all had a strange fruity kinda aftertaste. My first guess was the guano, but now I'm wondering if it might be the Hi-Brix molasses I was using more of. There's gotta be something to this. If it was just from being more well nourished, they wouldn't all have the same kinda aftertaste, they would have more pronounced individual flavors.

My buds since then all smell and taste great, but lack that lingering aftertaste. Not that that's a bad thing because I kinda didn't like it anyways, I was just trying to figure it out. My buds now taste cleaner, but lack the weird aftertaste. No other variables have changed except the nutrients I feed. According to Royal Queen seeds the mango effect if real, but I don't know what caused the taste.

My thought is that it was something else in your environment. I tend to agree with the above poster that happier healthier plants will give more pronounced flavors.. But only way to really know, is run 2 plants side by side of the same strain, same cut ideally. Give 1 guano and see if it tastes more mango. Try the same with molasses. Let us know what you discover!

 

[youraveragehorticulturist]

I heard some guy talking about terpenes, and how there are lots of them. Who knows how many can impact smell and taste. This dude talked about how some metabolic processes in plants are only triggered by specific micro nutrients or minerals, and how it's possible that some terpenes wouldn't be developed without these micros.

He recommended using a broad range of amendments for a broad range of micronutrients and minerals for terpenes and flavors.

Dude also felt the same way about compost tea and microbes. He said to use EWC, compost, old rootballs from your pots, fresh rootballs from outside plants.

He believed in 24 darkness before chopping so your plants could develop terpenes and they wouldn't be burned off under the lights.

 

[Budzbuddha]

I believe it’s the way you grow and reuse your medium organically . I follow your grows and noticed you allow the phenos to push forward the profiles without “ artificial “ means. Therefore perhaps you are noticing flavors that might not have been as pronounced growing with other methods.

 

[spliffendz]

Stop wearing lip gloss when you smoke .....


Just kidding lol.

Send him/her to the noob section with a spank on da ass

 

[CannaOnerStar]

Dunno, but guanokalong has a taste improver additive that is based on guano.

 

[spliffendz]

I actually had mango haze and no bueno or guano, and it tasted of mango, shit american mangoes but mangoes all the same

 

[Budzbuddha]

Are you running mycrene heavy strains ?

 

[PadawanWarrior]

I believe it’s the way you grow and reuse your medium organically . I follow your grows and noticed you allow the phenos to push forward the profiles without “ artificial “ means. Therefore perhaps you are noticing flavors that might not have been as pronounced growing with other methods.

That first round I was feeding Earth Juice and making teas. I also threw a handful of EWC in each batch, so they were really spoiled plants. All 6 different strains all had the same kinda aftertaste so I was assuming that that taste must have came from something in the feed. I haven't been using that stuff much or made a tea in awhile now. Mainly just top dressing and plain water. I've gotten way lazier.

My thought is that it was something else in your environment. I tend to agree with the above poster that happier healthier plants will give more pronounced flavors.. But only way to really know, is run 2 plants side by side of the same strain, same cut ideally. Give 1 guano and see if it tastes more mango. Try the same with molasses. Let us know what you discover!

I should do a side by side comparison like you're saying. That's probably the only definitive way to tell. I actually already have multiple clone only Green Crack plants growing now, so maybe I'll do a little more experimenting.

 

[PadawanWarrior]

Are you running mycrene heavy strains ?

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That's a good thought. I just read that, and that makes some sense. I think you're totally on to something here. The first batch was getting a lot of love with all the teas and shit I was giving it. That round also was the stinkiest yet, especially the Green Crack. My whole house reaked, and so did everyone's clothes. My wife is a nurse, and people kept smelling weed around her. Her leather purse stunk for weeks, and whenever I was out and about, people would give me funny looks, lol.

It makes sense that they would all have a similar taste then, since it sounds like that terpene is in all cannabis strains. Sounds like they were just extra healthy that round. Good call Buddha.

 

[Shape Shifter]

Myrcene does NOT taste or smell like mango despite being found in mango. The scent and taste of myrcene will be familiar if you drink hoppy beer.

On the other hand, Green Crack is a strain that is known to have mango flavor in some phenos.

So there we have it. I have solved two great mysteries. My work is done here!

 

[Budzbuddha]

Taste / terp profile descriptions differ among those who consume cannabis.

Floral may taste different to someone else.
Limonene is an obvious one to claim lemon but can be a “ citrus “ orange to others. Same thing with
“ berry “ notes .... is it blueberry , sweet fruit , candy or ?

 

[PadawanWarrior]

Myrcene does NOT taste or smell like mango despite being found in mango. The scent and taste of myrcene will be familiar if you drink hoppy beer.

On the other hand, Green Crack is a strain that is known to have mango flavor in some phenos.

So there we have it. I have solved two great mysteries. My work is done here!

I think @Budzbuddha nailed it with the mycrene idea. I'm impressed, he gets an award, lol. And all my strains had that earthy fruity kinda aftertaste, not just the Green Crack.

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[rkmcdon]

Given that you are doing ROLS, have you considered the age of your soil as a factor?

 

[Shape Shifter]

Nah. No mango in myrcene. There is myrcene in mango. Big difference. These are facts. Believe whatever you want.

 

[PadawanWarrior]

Given that you are doing ROLS, have you considered the age of your soil as a factor?

I'm actually doing no-till, but ROLS is similar. I thought about the soil. That might have something to do with it too, but I'm thinking the Earth Juice EWC teas are what really brought out the terpenes. Like I said I was really spoiling them that first round.