The problem is that you and I are part of a small minority that can look at a case like this and realize there are multiple angles, things we dont know, things we dont understand. The vast majority of people see this type of stuff and just react in a primal manner; refusing to try to understand what actually happened. I mean, my god; had it been a black woman..... We might just be int he middle of a true civil war now.
The police do have a certain responsibility to ensure people in custody are not a threat to themselves. I would imagine they were opening the door so they could put her in a turtle/bam bam suit or one of those chairs they strap you to. She immediately attacked and all hell broke loose. Still not saying the officer was justified by any means, just giving one possible reason they decided to open the door.
From a holding cell, I actually watched them strip a girl (white) naked and toss the bam bam suit in the cell and let her decide if she wanted to be naked or wear it; all right in front of all the male and female inmates. It didnt really help her case when she proceeded to flash everyone and then progress to jumping around but what happened that day was without a doubt morally questionable. Police have to deal with some crazy shit. I think all of us at one point or another have been in a crazy situation where we reacted poorly and later felt guilt, remorse, shame, etc. Police arent supposed to act with emotion but they are human. Until we have robot police they will continue to make mistakes.
I think this is why we shouldn't have the police in charge of taking care of these people once they are removed from the situation and placed in custody. Police officers shouldn't also be our front line mental health workers, it just makes sense to remove any frustrations of dealing with this lady and others like her and far worse. Humans are not Voldemort, once they are contained, let people trained to deal with humanity at its worst in a constructive way take over so the police can get back to the street, downloading body cams/calling for a statement would give any further details needed for the paperwork that I too think police shouldn't have to deal with.
btw, there are tons of examples showing black women being beaten by the police.
Well I watched the videos.
Got a shock from the amy Connolly one.
That's pretty brutal but I checked the case out and she was arrested for assault in a bar. She then proceeded to assault medical staff and police officers. Not saying the guy was right to punch her but it definately sounds like she had it comming.
What happened before those 30 seconds?
Was he one of the guys she assaulted?
And 're the black guy one. Why do you all get so defensive about police asking questions?
Just prove your adress and do what they say. Our cops are unarmed are were still not daft enough to wind them up. If they had guns there's no chance they'd get any backchat.
Why piss off a guy with a gun when you can just answer a couple simple questions and be on your way?
I can see why some might perceive the cop as being racist. It certainly does seem like the black guy was doing nothing wrong and almost definately lived there.
You gotta think outside the box though.
What's crime like in that area?
Are there a lot of gangs there?
Was there something that happened there recent to the video so the police are being extra cautious.
Was the cop looking for someone for something and just questioning everyone to see if he could get lucky.
There's a million reasons why he could've wanted to ask who the guy was.
He went on the defensive straight away and was unco-operative. That gives the cop reason to believe he might be upto something.
Could be upto nothing but when people refuse to answer simple questions there's generally a reason for it.
If he hadn't gotten himself so wound up the cop would be been done and gone in 10 seconds.
We get stopped over here. They can search us and we don't give a fuck. The white people don't anyway. Helps to keep guns and knives from our streets so let them get on with it.
Police here will definately be getting stricter towards black people though. Because of this blm stuff, it's becoming increasingly dangerous for them to do their job in certain areas.
They have a duty to keep drugs and weapons off our streets and random stop/search is a very effective way of doing that. Guns are perfectly legal here but an illegally owned gun gets you 5-10 years.
We don't want them on our streets and predominantly black populations have higher than average amounts of gun and knife crime. Most of it is black on black too.
Therefor the police ramp it up a bit in these areas to help keep the black communities safer.
The blacks are taking this as racism though.
Imagine wanting black people to be able to live without worrying about dum ass drug dealers stabbing or shooting their kids. God how awful.
Now when black people are stopped there are large crowds of black people gathering to threaten the unarmed police.
When all the cops are doing is trying to keep their streets safe.
That's gonna lead to bigger groups of cops stopping more black people and lots of them getting arrested for being dicks about it.
The cops most likely start carrying guns in these areas pretty soon too if they haven't already.
So again, the blm enthusiasts are just gonna shoot themselves in the foot and make things worse.
The entire movement has been poorly planned and poorly executed. If you want to be taken seriously in today's world you can't just start harassing cops and expect your life to get better. That's idiocy at its absolute best.
How do you guys even have enough black people in one place (outside of their families) to have black on black crime with being 98% white? I think you are missing how racism is the driving force behind keeping minority populations pushed into one small area.
I tried to start talking about the reasons people get mad here. If you want to understand better why people get upset, I would suggest looking at how radicalized you are to the word 'racist' after years of Russian trolling to get Trump elected. After having something unjust happen so many times, eventually people get upset, and it is not a law that people have to tell the cops anything, and just walking is not a crime here.
Just like Cops are humans and respond poorly, so are the people that they are interacting with. Did you watch this one?
This guy was going door to door for a Republican politician and got the police called on him because he was 'suspicious'. If the cop was really worried he could have investigated from far, or talked to the houses he handed out pamphlets to, the kid was not in anyway doing anything wrong and was obviously targeted because he was black. And just because he correctly told the cop that he had no right to answers from the guy and the cop felt powerless, it was not a reason to arrest him (as the courts ruled in the kids favor).
We Americans did not give these powers to the police, and as much as Putin and Trump would like us to live in a authoritarian state, we don't.
And the most important thing to remember about all of this, is that the Russians have been using examples like these (selectively edited and with commentary pinpointed to the people who have themselves been violated by the police, or police who have shown online to be susceptible to racist programming) to get the police and BLM protestors pointed at each in the hopes that more violent reactions can occur for them to use to further excite more distrust and hate.
I understand that as a white person from Scotland you have sided with the Russians on this attack on our democracies because as you see it you benefit from it.
But for the Americans (and other people from democratic nations who are also under attack by the Russian military) that really want to understand what is going on in our country, it is important to understand that our minority communities have had to endure very real repression from our government and outright violence from individuals in our government for decades. And our police (and anyone that is quick to give cops the benefit of a doubt) have been getting pushed from the other direction to the point that they are easily radicalized against "BLM".
A simple way to ask yourself if you are being radicalized on this issue is if you feel the need to say 'All/Blue lives matter' when you hear 'Black Lives Matter'.
