conor c
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Yes you can
Is a seed from a hermi always a hermi?
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.Smoke
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And if that doesn't work you can always try praying harder...
#prayawayhermies
Tetrahedral
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Then why is the seed industry not exclusively using those genetics?
The seed industry shows the same problems we have.
conor c
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Its cos you need large numbers the more the better and be good at making the right selections not alot of people can do it or are willing to put the work in these days it seems id say
Tetrahedral
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You would just need one breeding pair, even simpler a clone only.
There is no real work.
conor c
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Yeah if you find stable progeny what if it was a very herm prone strain you would need to work it till you find stable individuals and with more numbers theres always a higher chance of finding them in less time versus less numbers
Tetrahedral
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Genetics do not allow for a 'hermie prone' individual only a method of action which was described as stress by others.
The progeny would then be the individual lineage that reacted worst to stress.
Marijuana exhibits high morphology for stress, it seems hard you can't imagine the ability to Hermie as a stress related function.
The alternative requires an explanation why it would leave this to natural selection of never ending instability and not simply envelope that into its base structure leaving other progeny to die off unable to handle high degrees of stress that ruin it's chances of pollinating the next generation of seeds.
Johnny Lawrence
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Yes. Exactly. I stated facts.
Btw, the result is ridiculous. I run half a dozen different known strains, and this weirdo cross is by far the most popular.
Johnny Lawrence
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And btw, take another look at the op.
He mentioned a herm plant pollinating a girl.
BudmanTX
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Even if that did happen. Still means free seeds. Enjoy...
EvilScotsm@n
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I always wondered what people don't get about this.
If there's seeds in the weed then iether the plant hemied or was pollinated.
If it hermied there's obviously a higher than usual chance of herms from the seeds but you've got no way of knowing which it was.
If you don't want to run the risk then just go spend 10 bucks on a female seed.
I've never even checked my plants for sex or hermies. Don't need to because I use solid genetics that are reliable.
Done about 150 from seed now and never had a male, herm or a single nanner on any of them.
If there's seeds in the weed then iether the plant hemied or was pollinated.
If it hermied there's obviously a higher than usual chance of herms from the seeds but you've got no way of knowing which it was.
If you don't want to run the risk then just go spend 10 bucks on a female seed.
I've never even checked my plants for sex or hermies. Don't need to because I use solid genetics that are reliable.
Done about 150 from seed now and never had a male, herm or a single nanner on any of them.
conor c
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Explain strains that wont herm or reverse easy then cheese is a good example even if you managed to stress it enough it the pollen would be sterile chances are only reverses using sts and is a bitch at that
Plus i mean they do say hemp wasnt naturally male n female on the one plant man introduced that so its reasonable to assume it may be the same with high thc cannabis who knows
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randallb
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Nope............not true.
Tetrahedral
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The genetics to hemp are different.
Every cheese strain and breeder has a corresponding Hermie thread.
That argument dosent carry any weight ever and that's where you get hung up.
conor c
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That be due to every cheese seed being a hybrid or a bx or at best closest available genetically be a s1 and we all know there not the same exactly and you do realise hemp and high thc cannabis can inter breed so i wouldnt say you can say for certain that the two things arent somehow related
Tetrahedral
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I'm sorry I just realised the very low standard and stupid debate constantly pushed.
I don't want to have to explain why hemp is different genetically, to talk at a level requires a certain level you just proved you haven't got.
This is why you fail to accept what most are saying. Your ideology dosent produce the present situation but one where we simply breed out the herms.
Go get em slugger!
conor c
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Lol wow keep up that open mind you got there you managed to be the first person in all these years on here to make it into my ignored list well done
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I have an auto. No stress factor. Out of 16; 1 threw herself into what I call “self pollination”. There’s actually weirdly enough a good explanation to this even though most refuse to say yea or no.
no nanners. Watched the whole time. If there was one as we all know with all the ventilation they should all have a few with the affected hermie throwing out a shit ton right? By the common logic?
wrong. 15 years running and I’ll put my two cents into this. Nature is nature. Meaning some strains are extremely stable and viable. And then there’s what I like to call “the rushed crosses”. You know, the crosses that we absolutely would love to be stable; but as we all know, unfortunately they aint. They are rushed out of production; or 2. My hypothesis: they decided that it was somehow A good idea to take a shitty non tested F1-2-3 and just kinda tell themselves; “how would they know right? Like it’s a cycle thing; you can always just send them an email saying “it happens sometimes”. I get that. But nowadays they don’t even test the prog. They just literally sell it. That’s def not right cause we get like 4 different base genomes; and it’s still sold at 11-13 a seed. Unless you go old school truly tested stable strains; what the hell are we really getting?
point is; this just happened from king crop seeds for me. Bought 20; 16 made it. Huge buds very fragrant. Def not the timeframe they said it was gonna be but it ain’t even what I wanna talk about.
the question is not asked enough and when so; the grower is shut down. I’ve grown long enough to realize that; all the pros here always say “impossible?! No nanners; no seeds!”. NO. I’m here to tell you that seed production is or immaculate and you know it was hermied; or I offer to you a different perspective.
screw people saying it’s literally impossible for plants to throw seeds without a trigger. I’d agree usually; after all you’d think any calyx needs a pollination. No. It doesn’t. The more they develop unstable sold strain no one has an answer for; the more it’s possible survivability from within the plant is possible. I just experienced it. Actually I did about 4 times now in 15 years and it’s always when I switch over to a new genetic from seed. You know how I know? A very different make up in the look and genetic of the plant; even if it’s supposed to be the same strain. It comes down to the graph AaBBAB etc. But don’t get it twisted; they sell us those seeds and don’t even really know how they came up to the result they got to. Autos or feminized... it don’t matter. I’m here to close the convo. I grew G13 the real one, 00 seeds bubblegum photo and northern lights #5. No problem, stable as all hell.. I then tried all the new strains. Nothing but chaos and headaches.
last one;king crop seeds: cream C. No nanners I’m telling you nothing. Seed production was not normal. One seed per every like 20 branches;very weird; unexplainable if I may. Not tried and true strain; the hot stuff. Never tested; never stabilized. Cream C made itself with no nanners a seed here and there. No nanners I guarantee it. I can’t explain it. There was nothing. So how? Survivability? I think it was nothing more than nature telling nature “do something before you die”
no nanners. Watched the whole time. If there was one as we all know with all the ventilation they should all have a few with the affected hermie throwing out a shit ton right? By the common logic?
wrong. 15 years running and I’ll put my two cents into this. Nature is nature. Meaning some strains are extremely stable and viable. And then there’s what I like to call “the rushed crosses”. You know, the crosses that we absolutely would love to be stable; but as we all know, unfortunately they aint. They are rushed out of production; or 2. My hypothesis: they decided that it was somehow A good idea to take a shitty non tested F1-2-3 and just kinda tell themselves; “how would they know right? Like it’s a cycle thing; you can always just send them an email saying “it happens sometimes”. I get that. But nowadays they don’t even test the prog. They just literally sell it. That’s def not right cause we get like 4 different base genomes; and it’s still sold at 11-13 a seed. Unless you go old school truly tested stable strains; what the hell are we really getting?
point is; this just happened from king crop seeds for me. Bought 20; 16 made it. Huge buds very fragrant. Def not the timeframe they said it was gonna be but it ain’t even what I wanna talk about.
the question is not asked enough and when so; the grower is shut down. I’ve grown long enough to realize that; all the pros here always say “impossible?! No nanners; no seeds!”. NO. I’m here to tell you that seed production is or immaculate and you know it was hermied; or I offer to you a different perspective.
screw people saying it’s literally impossible for plants to throw seeds without a trigger. I’d agree usually; after all you’d think any calyx needs a pollination. No. It doesn’t. The more they develop unstable sold strain no one has an answer for; the more it’s possible survivability from within the plant is possible. I just experienced it. Actually I did about 4 times now in 15 years and it’s always when I switch over to a new genetic from seed. You know how I know? A very different make up in the look and genetic of the plant; even if it’s supposed to be the same strain. It comes down to the graph AaBBAB etc. But don’t get it twisted; they sell us those seeds and don’t even really know how they came up to the result they got to. Autos or feminized... it don’t matter. I’m here to close the convo. I grew G13 the real one, 00 seeds bubblegum photo and northern lights #5. No problem, stable as all hell.. I then tried all the new strains. Nothing but chaos and headaches.
last one;king crop seeds: cream C. No nanners I’m telling you nothing. Seed production was not normal. One seed per every like 20 branches;very weird; unexplainable if I may. Not tried and true strain; the hot stuff. Never tested; never stabilized. Cream C made itself with no nanners a seed here and there. No nanners I guarantee it. I can’t explain it. There was nothing. So how? Survivability? I think it was nothing more than nature telling nature “do something before you die”
bk78
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So skimming through this diarrhea quickly. How does a seed form without pollination?
bk78
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You’re going to be a riot, I can tell already from your first post.