Germinating seeds

[Raspberrykiwi]

So, I placed 4 seeds into different baggies with a wet paper towel. 2 seeds popped, 1 random bag seed and 1 Gelato 41 seed. The other two seeds that didn’t pop a root were Wedding Crasher seeds. Is there any way I can make them pop a root before just tossing them? I dropped them into a cup of water. This is what the other seeds look like. Today is day 3 from the bag (yes the bag seed is doing the best)

 

[Cinco]

Just wait. They will or they won’t.

 

[OVH]

It took over 5 days for some seeds to pop for me one time.

 

[EvilScotsm@n]

Use root riots in future mate. I've had 2 fail to pop out of around 150.
Just put the untouched seed in 15mm deep, pointy side up.
Get it wet.
Leave it somewhere dark and warm and they pop in 1-3 days.

 

[Raspberrykiwi]

Use root riots in future mate. I've had 2 fail to pop out of around 150.
Just put the untouched seed in 15mm deep, pointy side up.
Get it wet.
Leave it somewhere dark and warm and they pop in 1-3 days.

15mm is kind of deep isn’t it? They’re still in the cup of water, I’ll replant them when I get home from work

 

[Wattzzup]

Just wait. They will or they won’t.

You act like those are the only two options

OP have you tried dropping in soil directly with the ones that didn’t pop?

 

[Raspberrykiwi]

You act like those are the only two options

OP have you tried dropping in soil directly with the ones that didn’t pop?

I did. I started them in the bag with a wet paper towel and while the other 2 popped roots, these ones didn’t. So I put all 4 into solo cups with FFOF and watered with seaweed extract. 3 days and nothing. So I put them into a cup of water last night, today I’ll put them back into soil

 

[Wattzzup]

I did. I started them in the bag with a wet paper towel and while the other 2 popped roots, these ones didn’t. So I put all 4 into solo cups with FFOF and watered with seaweed extract. 3 days and nothing. So I put them into a cup of water last night, today I’ll put them back into soil

I wouldn’t keep moving them. I just drop mine in wet soil, cover with a sprinkle of dry soil, mist and cover with a bottle. Once they pop you can take the bottle off if you want. The bottle helps with humidity and keeps the soil moist around the seed.

 

[cowboylogic]

Paper towel method only invites problems. As already mentioned plants them directly in moist medium. Keep them warm and let nature do its thing.

 

[CannaOnerStar]

It could take over a week. Some strains(i think this is not common in modern commercial strains) grow a very thick seed shell that you might need to help open a bit, either very gently cracking the seed open(i usually use my teeth) or by sanding the side where the seed opens with fine sanding paper. But i think this is more of a problem with northern landrace strains and crosses made from them that are bred outdoors.

I think best method is to put them in a glass of water with a drop of some root nutrient stuff, then when they open and show a beginning of a root, put them between wet paper towel for like two days until the root is half inch to an inch and then put it in soil or cube so that the tip of the plant is nearly on the surface or just on the surface if root is inch or longer. Also you can put it in a bit larger hole, so that you can easily bury some of the stem as it grows.

 

[CannaOnerStar]

Use root riots in future mate. I've had 2 fail to pop out of around 150.
Just put the untouched seed in 15mm deep, pointy side up.
Get it wet.
Leave it somewhere dark and warm and they pop in 1-3 days.

I tried these and i learned that if you dont do things juuuuuuuuuuuust right, you will kill your seeds with them. Rock wool or some of those dry (coco?)pucks you saturate with water are much more reliable. They also seemed to grow very slow in them compared to everything else.

Root riots seem to work great for cuttings or if you grow long enough root to a seed between a paper towel first, but throwing seeds randomly on a ground seemed to be as reliable as these root riot cubes for germinating seeds by simply putting seeds in them(after ofc first tearing it open a bit more as the material is too thick and spongy for start of a plant to push through properly.

I have germinated tons of seeds in various ways and never had so many fail and i did try to do things juuuuuuust right with them. But again for cuttings that spongy texture seems perfect and cuttings seem to like to root in them. But never ever will i bury a seed in those fuckers again, i wasted like 60 dollars worth of seeds with them and there were different strains, so it wasnt because of bad seed batch either. If a seed has long enough tail, so that it can be placed in a way that the top is only a few mm under, then they will grow just fine.

 

[Wattzzup]

It could take over a week. Some strains(i think this is not common in modern commercial strains) grow a very thick seed shell that you might need to help open a bit, either very gently cracking the seed open(i usually use my teeth) or by sanding the side where the seed opens with fine sanding paper. But i think this is more of a problem with northern landrace strains and crosses made from them that are bred outdoors.

I think best method is to put them in a glass of water with a drop of some root nutrient stuff, then when they open and show a beginning of a root, put them between wet paper towel for like two days until the root is half inch to an inch and then put it in soil or cube so that the tip of the plant is nearly on the surface or just on the surface if root is inch or longer.

This or drop in soil hmmmmmm.....

 

[CannaOnerStar]

This or drop in soil hmmmmmm.....

Yea i dont think directly in soil is too much less reliable, almost the same. But if you have expensive seeds, you might want to avoid all potential issues

 

[Wattzzup]

Yea i dont think directly in soil is too much less reliable, almost the same. But if you have expensive seeds, you might want to avoid all potential issues

Biting them open sounds waaaaaay more reliable. C’mon man

 

[MickFoster]

10 for 10 within 4 days.......I always get close to 100%.

 

[EvilScotsm@n]

I tried these and i learned that if you dont do things juuuuuuuuuuuust right, you will kill your seeds with them. Rock wool or some of those dry (coco?)pucks you saturate with water are much more reliable. They also seemed to grow very slow in them compared to everything else.

Root riots seem to work great for cuttings or if you grow long enough root to a seed between a paper towel first, but throwing seeds randomly on a ground seemed to be as reliable as these root riot cubes for germinating seeds by simply putting seeds in them(after ofc first tearing it open a bit more as the material is too thick and spongy for start of a plant to push through properly.

I have germinated tons of seeds in various ways and never had so many fail and i did try to do things juuuuuuust right with them. But again for cuttings that spongy texture seems perfect and cuttings seem to like to root in them. But never ever will i bury a seed in those fuckers again, i wasted like 60 dollars worth of seeds with them and there were different strains, so it wasnt because of bad seed batch either. If a seed has long enough tail, so that it can be placed in a way that the top is only a few mm under, then they will grow just fine.

Well lets look at it this way mate.
I'm around 140-150 from seed.
All have been started in root riots.
And all came up perfectly.
No shells stuck on.
None of them got tied up underground.
None of them were under watered or over watered.
There was 2 exceptions.
2 x gg#4 autos from seedsman.
Both of them turned black and died and those were the only 2 that were short of perfect.

If you struggle with root riots then there is something fundamentally very wrong with the way you are doing things.

 

[CannaOnerStar]

Biting them open sounds waaaaaay more reliable. C’mon man

Im talking about biting only seeds that genetically have extra thick shell. These exist and i have grown them(hence i had to bite some), but like i mentioned, its not a thing in modern commercial strains.

However if a seed doesent seem to open after a while, cracking the seed might save it. If for some reason it doesent have strength to open itself soon enough, it will drown inside the seed itself as it sucks water in and dies. So im only mentioning this as a last resort to try to save a seed that just doesent open on its own. There might be something living inside some.

And ofc you can use common sense in what way you try to do this, if you cant bite gently enough(it will take some force also, so its not easy) then use other methods i mentioned like sand paper.

 

[CannaOnerStar]

If you struggle with root riots then there is something fundamentally very wrong with the way you are doing things.

Yea you would think, but i have germinated over 100 seeds also myself with other methods with good success rate, then i tried these and nearly half did not make it and half of those that did make it made it only because i was able to dig them out, so only like 1/4th would had made it on their own.

Only reason i could figure is that their texture if fucked for germinating seeds directly in, unless the seeds already has long enough tail. Maybe you found some magic angle to put the seeds in there or something, but apparently it is not as easy and realiable as it has been with other methods i have tried. Even if you would have the magic angle or what ever required for good success rate, not everyone does, hence in general they are not as reliable in my view.

 

[EvilScotsm@n]

It could take over a week. Some strains(i think this is not common in modern commercial strains) grow a very thick seed shell that you might need to help open a bit, either very gently cracking the seed open(i usually use my teeth) or by sanding the side where the seed opens with fine sanding paper. But i think this is more of a problem with northern landrace strains and crosses made from them that are bred outdoors.

I think best method is to put them in a glass of water with a drop of some root nutrient stuff, then when they open and show a beginning of a root, put them between wet paper towel for like two days until the root is half inch to an inch and then put it in soil or cube so that the tip of the plant is nearly on the surface or just on the surface if root is inch or longer. Also you can put it in a bit larger hole, so that you can easily bury some of the stem as it grows.

Mate.
I don't deliberately take the piss out of folks unless they deserve it but wholy fuck!
What on earth have you been smoking that makes you say these things ?

 

[CannaOnerStar]

Mate.
I don't deliberately take the piss out of folks unless they deserve it but wholy fuck!
What on earth have you been smoking that makes you say these things ?

What dont you believe? You dont believe that some cannabis varities that have gotten used to northern climate have thicker shell that does not open easily always, or dont you believe that my method of water -> paper -> soil is reliable? Or dont you believe that if a seed does not open on its own, there could still be something living inside of it, something that will drown if it doesent get out fast enough?