PH'D WATER AT 6.5 BUT RUNOFF COMES OUT AT 7.0?

[Massgrower98]

I just feed my plants a compost tea and checked the run off and the ph was at 7.0 when I just ph'd the water to 6.5 ... this one girl scout cookie I have in particular is showing more signs of deficiencies than any other plant... what should I add to my soil or water to fix ph?

 

[BobThe420Builder]

Runoff means nothing

Focus on what goes in and yer fine

 

[Kalebaiden]

Run off means shit, ignore it.

Do a soil slurry test if you're concerned, add dolomitic lime as a top dressing if it really concerns you.

The issues look like mine did, it was a CalMg issue.

Add more pics, list your water type and nutrient type.

What kind of soil...etc..etc..

 

[Doug Dawson]

I just feed my plants a compost tea and checked the run off and the ph was at 7.0 when I just ph'd the water to 6.5 ... this one girl scout cookie I have in particular is showing more signs of deficiencies than any other plant... what should I add to my soil or water to fix ph?

Checking run off is for Coco growers.

 

[Massgrower98]

Run off means shit, ignore it.

Do a soil slurry test if you're concerned, add dolomitic lime as a top dressing if it really concerns you.

The issues look like mine did, it was a CalMg issue.

Add more pics, list your water type and nutrient type.

What kind of soil...etc..etc..

I'm doing no til I amended my soil a shit ton, and now I'm using seed sprouted teas and compost teas often as well as top dressing 444 gaja green dry amendments, and also using vegamatrix grow liquid solution... I just use tap water and I try to let it sit out for more than 24 hours before I use it and I think my ppms comea out ar 150 - 200 out of the tap ...

 

[xtsho]

So what? Why are you checking the pH of the runoff? Your issues are more likely due to a hot soil with unbalanced nutrient levels. Too much of one thing will lock out other things. It's called nutrient antagonism and is responsible for a good percentage of issues growers experience.

Oh, and after you amended the soil did you let it cook for at least a couple of weeks? A month is preferable and longer is still better yet.

 

[Massgrower98]

Run off means shit, ignore it.

Do a soil slurry test if you're concerned, add dolomitic lime as a top dressing if it really concerns you.

The issues look like mine did, it was a CalMg issue.

Add more pics, list your water type and nutrient type.

What kind of soil...etc..etc..

It has been a problem on my girl scout cookies for the past week I just pulled off like 20 more leaves that died and it's just been spreading up from the bottom to the top of the canopy...

 

[Massgrower98]

So what? Why are you checking the pH of the runoff? Your issues are more likely due to a hot soil with unbalanced nutrient levels. Too much of one thing will lock out other things. It's called nutrient antagonism and is responsible for a good percentage of issues growers experience.

So you think I should just cut back on the food and just start using water ?

 

[Massgrower98]

So you think I should just cut back on the food and just start using water ?

To flush this one specific plant out? Because all my other plants are doing good but this one

 

[Massgrower98]

So what? Why are you checking the pH of the runoff? Your issues are more likely due to a hot soil with unbalanced nutrient levels. Too much of one thing will lock out other things. It's called nutrient antagonism and is responsible for a good percentage of issues growers experience.

Oh, and after you amended the soil did you let it cook for at least a couple of weeks? A month is preferable and longer is still better yet.

Yes i let my soil cook for a month ...

 

[xtsho]

So you think I should just cut back on the food and just start using water ?

I'm not even going to speculate as to what you should do. I have no idea what you amended your soil with and you're adding 2 different fertilizers and a bunch of teas.

But yeah, plain water might be a good idea for awhile.

 

[DrKiz]

There should be a sticky that says runoff PH is pretty much inconsequential.

 

[Tetrahedral]

There should be a sticky that says runoff PH is pretty much inconsequential.

And one that says if your a new grower and you add a ton of amendments and different stuff to soil your probably not going to succeed to great or know what's going on.

 

[Jackcracked]

Use your TDS meter and measure your runoff compared to tds of new nutrients. If runoff is measuring higher, you have lockout and need to flush. If runoff lower, your plant is uptaking neuts and needs a supplement with CaMag. Different strains require different mixes. Your GSC looks like she needs more calcium to me ,so if runoff high I would add more cal mag to the new mix after flushing. and rebalancing the ph to 5.8 .

 

[Massgrower98]

So what? Why are you checking the pH of the runoff? Your issues are more likely due to a hot soil with unbalanced nutrient levels. Too much of one thing will lock out other things. It's called nutrient antagonism and is responsible for a good percentage of issues growers experience.

Oh, and after you amended the soil did you let it cook for at least a couple of weeks? A month is preferable and longer is still better yet.

Use your TDS meter and measure your runoff compared to tds of new nutrients. If runoff is measuring higher, you have lockout and need to flush. If runoff lower, your plant is uptaking neuts and needs a supplement with CaMag. Different strains require different mixes. Your GSC looks like she needs more calcium to me ,so if runoff high I would add more cal mag to the new mix after flushing. and rebalancing the ph to 5.8 .

Use your TDS meter and measure your runoff compared to tds of new nutrients. If runoff is measuring higher, you have lockout and need to flush. If runoff lower, your plant is uptaking neuts and needs a supplement with CaMag. Different strains require different mixes. Your GSC looks like she needs more calcium to me ,so if runoff high I would add more cal mag to the new mix after flushing. and rebalancing the ph to 5.8 .

Ok yeah I havent checked my ppms recently I'm gonna do that tomorrow when I flush... all of my plants are starting to get nute burn at the tips of the leaves, and yellowing spreading from the bottom up... let me put this out to I havent feed my plants straight water in over a month I've always been putting something in my mix. whether it be silica powder, aloe vera, or some type of tea so should I just flush my plants with water and ph at normal 6.5? But i will check run off either way and if I need to add calcium I've got this source of calcium from roots organic is this a good product to use?

 

[xtsho]

Ok yeah I havent checked my ppms recently I'm gonna do that tomorrow when I flush... all of my plants are starting to get nute burn at the tips of the leaves, and yellowing spreading from the bottom up... let me put this out to I havent feed my plants straight water in over a month I've always been putting something in my mix. whether it be silica powder, aloe vera, or some type of tea so should I just flush my plants with water and ph at normal 6.5? But i will check run off either way and if I need to add calcium I've got this source of calcium from roots organic is this a good product to use?

You can't check the ppms available to the plants by checking runoff when you "flush" your plants. Whatever number you get is meaningless.

You say you heavily amended your soil, then you added 2 different fertilizers, then you watered with teas, silica powder, etc... You also say you've been feeding them something every watering. Why would you need to add anything else? If you had a heavily amended soil like you say a top dressing of the Gaia Green is all you would have needed if even that. You should have been feeding plain water. You definitely don't need to be adding more stuff with that overpriced Elemental Roots stuff. You just said all your plants are starting to get nute burn. Now you're talking about adding more nitrogen? Why would you think feeding them more would be the right thing to do? That makes no sense.

You seem to be in the "add more" mode to fix your plants when the problem is you've already added too much.

You haven't shown a picture of the entire plant just some nasty looking leaves you cut off and many should have been left on the plant.

 

[Massgrower98]

You can't check the ppms available to the plants by checking runoff when you "flush" your plants. Whatever number you get is meaningless.

You say you heavily amended your soil, then you added 2 different fertilizers, then you watered with teas, silica powder, etc... You also say you've been feeding them something every watering. Why would you need to add anything else? If you had a heavily amended soil like you say a top dressing of the Gaia Green is all you would have needed if even that. You should have been feeding plain water. You definitely don't need to be adding more stuff with that overpriced Elemental Roots stuff. You just said all your plants are starting to get nute burn. Now you're talking about adding more nitrogen? Why would you think feeding them more would be the right thing to do? That makes no sense.

You seem to be in the "add more" mode to fix your plants when the problem is you've already added too much.

You haven't shown a picture of the entire plant just some nasty looking leaves you cut off and many should have been left on the plant.

 

[Massgrower98]

You can't check the ppms available to the plants by checking runoff when you "flush" your plants. Whatever number you get is meaningless.

You say you heavily amended your soil, then you added 2 different fertilizers, then you watered with teas, silica powder, etc... You also say you've been feeding them something every watering. Why would you need to add anything else? If you had a heavily amended soil like you say a top dressing of the Gaia Green is all you would have needed if even that. You should have been feeding plain water. You definitely don't need to be adding more stuff with that overpriced Elemental Roots stuff. You just said all your plants are starting to get nute burn. Now you're talking about adding more nitrogen? Why would you think feeding them more would be the right thing to do? That makes no sense.

You seem to be in the "add more" mode to fix your plants when the problem is you've already added too much.

You haven't shown a picture of the entire plant just some nasty looking leaves you cut off and many should have been left on the plant.

You can't check the ppms available to the plants by checking runoff when you "flush" your plants. Whatever number you get is meaningless.

You say you heavily amended your soil, then you added 2 different fertilizers, then you watered with teas, silica powder, etc... You also say you've been feeding them something every watering. Why would you need to add anything else? If you had a heavily amended soil like you say a top dressing of the Gaia Green is all you would have needed if even that. You should have been feeding plain water. You definitely don't need to be adding more stuff with that overpriced Elemental Roots stuff. You just said all your plants are starting to get nute burn. Now you're talking about adding more nitrogen? Why would you think feeding them more would be the right thing to do? That makes no sense.

You seem to be in the "add more" mode to fix your plants when the problem is you've already added too much.

You haven't shown a picture of the entire plant just some nasty looking leaves you cut off and many should have been left on the plant.

Heres a pic of gsc on deck, second one where I'm showing the bottom canopy is the bottom of my sour diesel also yellowing up from the bottom ...and because I dont know who to believe on this rollitup page, this other guy just said I should ph my water to 5.8 and add calcium if my tds runoff is higher than the nutrient tds in water ... your right i shouldnt of been adding in random amounts of amendments back when I broke down my soil , and I need to be just adding water more often ... sorry I've only been growing for a year and a half so really just trying to learn thanks for your time...

 

[Massgrower98]

You can't check the ppms available to the plants by checking runoff when you "flush" your plants. Whatever number you get is meaningless.

You say you heavily amended your soil, then you added 2 different fertilizers, then you watered with teas, silica powder, etc... You also say you've been feeding them something every watering. Why would you need to add anything else? If you had a heavily amended soil like you say a top dressing of the Gaia Green is all you would have needed if even that. You should have been feeding plain water. You definitely don't need to be adding more stuff with that overpriced Elemental Roots stuff. You just said all your plants are starting to get nute burn. Now you're talking about adding more nitrogen? Why would you think feeding them more would be the right thing to do? That makes no sense.

You seem to be in the "add more" mode to fix your plants when the problem is you've already added too much.

You haven't shown a picture of the entire plant just some nasty looking leaves you cut off and many should have been left on the plant.

Someone told me this could be heat stress not even nute burn what you think ? It's been mid 80s direct sun past few days

 

[xtsho]

Heres a pic of gsc on deck, second one where I'm showing the bottom canopy is the bottom of my sour diesel also yellowing up from the bottom ...and because I dont know who to believe on this rollitup page, this other guy just said I should ph my water to 5.8 and add calcium if my tds runoff is higher than the nutrient tds in water ... your right i shouldnt of been adding in random amounts of amendments back when I broke down my soil , and I need to be just adding water more often ... sorry I've only been growing for a year and a half so really just trying to learn thanks for your time...

Well now that you've posted a picture of the entire plant it puts things in a new perspective. If those were just the bottom leaves it's not that bad since the rest of the plant looks decent. I'd just be careful adding too much.

I don't know why anyone would tell you to pH your water to 5.8 if you're growing in soil. Don't listen to them.

You're doing good. Plant doesn't look bad. Bottom leaves on plants that size die off. They are not going to stay pristine forever. Just like other plants leaves on cannabis are going to die and fall off as the plant grows. The plant looks healthy and you should get a good harvest. I don't see any serious problems. from the pictures of the entire plant.