PH problems in my soil. Need help asap.

teddy bonkers said:
he has ran mass amounts of water thru his plants. he has barely fed them anything, he hasn't fed his soil either. I would say it's depleted
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So with those two things in mind, what is wrong with giving it a couple days?
In case mass amounts of water was cause for the start of root damage.

teddy bonkers said:
1 time at an unknown ppm
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Right, so how can you rightly say it wasn't too much 24 - 8 - 16?
 
Alabamasf said:
I dont know why you dont know the info on nutes, temp, pictures sympToms. Ive given all of that 3 times. NO NUTES!! I HAVE USED NO NUTES, NOT ANY EVER. then everything went yellow. How else do you need me to say it. I put seed in dirt. It grew. I put in bigger pot it grew better. Opend tent one day PLANTS WERE YELLOW WITH NO NUTES EVER.. tem is 75 deg humidity 48-55% thought it might have been over watered so i let the dry untill they asked for water. Gave them water they got worse STILL NO DAMN NUTES TEMP STILL75 DEG raisex lights about 10-12inches it didnt help HERE IT IS AGAIN STILL NO NUTES. i waited till they were dry gave them (for the first time ever) calmag. Nothing happenned. 3 days later gave them epsoms salt foliar spray. Didnt help. STILL NO DAMN NUTES. waited 3 days gave then a half dose of NUTES FINALLY 24-8-16. no response!. It cant get any more plain. And before you say i haven given you any info on what Nutes i gave. I GAVE NO FREAKIN NUTES. Not untill couple days ago. If you would read from where you said the first 3 times about nutes, i told you NONE. PLEASE READ BEFORE YOU REPEAT YOUR RESPONSE.
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your problem started as a under feeding problem, then you gave them just more water and then some cal/mag, then you gave them half dose of nutes a couple days ago. keep giving them that dose everytime you water and watch your problem go away.
 
Aussieaceae said:
So with those two things in mind, what is wrong with giving it a couple days?
In case mass amounts of water was cause for the start of root damage.



Right, so how can you rightly say it wasn't too much 24 - 8 - 16?
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he gave a depleted soil a half dose of nutes a couple days ago. go look at his plants again.
 
teddy bonkers said:
he gave a depleted soil a half dose of nutes a couple days ago. go look at his plants again.
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So probably wise to give it a couple days to see what happens, right?

Then giving the depleted soil some lime will help buffer and stabilize the soil, it'll help with any new ferts too.
I think lime will be a much better soil conditioner than calmag.

I don't disagree they "look" like they need a bit of everything. I'd be giving them a couple days and deciding on a course of action between now and then.
Maybe you'd do it slightly different, big deal lol.

Peace out Teddy. :eyesmoke:
 
Aussieaceae said:
Right, so how can you rightly say it wasn't too much 24 - 8 - 16?
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The 24-8-16 is a ratio of the amount of N, P and K in the product you bought. They are percentages. 24% Nitrogen, 8% Phosphorus and 16% Potassium.

Those numbers don't mean anything relative to the strength of the mixture you pour onto the plants. That measurement is taken in PPM (EC), and it tells you how much (ie. the strength) of the 24-8-6 product (and anything else as well) is in the water.

So, NPK is a ratio that shows the amounts of each nutrient in your product relative to each other. PPM measures the amount of the product as a whole you've diluted in water (in simple terms).
 
Aussieaceae said:
So probably wise to give it a couple days to see what happens, right?

Then giving the depleted soil some lime will help buffer and stabilize the soil, it'll help with any new ferts too.
I think lime will be a much better soil conditioner than calmag.

I don't disagree they "look" like they need a bit of everything. I'd be giving them a couple days and deciding on a course of action between now and then.
Maybe you'd do it slightly different, big deal lol.

Peace out Teddy. :eyesmoke:
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yeah, if my dog is hungry, i make him wait a couple more days before I feed him because that makes sense. :dunce:
 
spek9 said:
The 24-8-16 is a ratio of the amount of N, P and K in the product you bought. They are percentages. 24% Nitrogen, 8% Phosphorus and 16% Potassium.

Those numbers don't mean anything relative to the strength of the mixture you pour onto the plants. That measurement is taken in PPM (EC), and it tells you how much (ie. the strength) of the 24-8-6 product (and anything else as well) is in the water.

So, NPK is a ratio that shows the amounts of each nutrient in your product relative to each other. PPM measures the amount of the product as a whole you've diluted in water (in simple terms).
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Apologies I already realize all this. My point was I think it's best to assess again in a couple days, if the nutrient has had a positive or negative effect before going any further.
I get a bit nervous myself if a deficient looking plant doesn't improve after getting fertilizer. Half a dose you'd expect some positive change, but apparently there wasn't. That's what made me think something else might be going on.
 
poundofyourfinest said:
Dude has a lot to learn.

If you have mycorrhizae in your soil you don’t need to ph it I make my soil from scratch. I might have said it wrong that it buffers the soil, that’s what the oyster does in my soil. I would not grow at this point without adding mycorrhizae to my soil. I’m done wasting my time here
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Ecothrive Charge is the only product you'll need when using soil.

It's magic.
 
I tink i may have found part of the problem. They appear to be quite rootbound. I may be wrong but i decided to take a look at the roots. It came right out of the pot without loosing hardly any dirt. Its all just a solid root ball. Please let me know if i am way off on this one.
 

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I was literally just about to post this suggestion, but I wanted to read the whole thread first to make sure nobody had mentioned it yet. Whenever my plants get issues that look like nute lockout/deficiency, they invariably end up being rootbound. IME it’s a very important and often overlooked issue. Get those plants into some bigger pots with good soil and they should perk up in a few days.
 
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