whats eating my leafs! help!

jondamon

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@jondamon my man, thats gnat
Sorry bud but I respectfully disagree.

I see the bugs he posted daily around my home on windows, on me coming in from outside as my wife has a veggie garden and she gets them.

these are gnats


Body structure and leg shape is completely different.

if you believe they are gnats then when or if you get them treat them as such but I can tell you adamantly that the Last pictures he posted are winged aphids.
 

Mr. Cheetah

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Sorry bud but I respectfully disagree.

I see the bugs he posted daily around my home on windows, on me coming in from outside as my wife has a veggie garden and she gets them.

these are gnats


Body structure and leg shape is completely different.

if you believe they are gnats then when or if you get them treat them as such but I can tell you adamantly that the Last pictures he posted are winged aphids.
no need to be sorry man, all good, maybe my bad. have a nice one :peace:
 

hodgey420

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Sorry bud but I respectfully disagree.

I see the bugs he posted daily around my home on windows, on me coming in from outside as my wife has a veggie garden and she gets them.

these are gnats


Body structure and leg shape is completely different.

if you believe they are gnats then when or if you get them treat them as such but I can tell you adamantly that the Last pictures he posted are winged aphids.
Ya im pretty sure there aphids i also saw a little green winged bug today also but it could of just been a random bug passing by
 

hodgey420

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Are they in a greenhouse at night? Or outside?
Outside on my lower patio during day if isnt raining i put them behind my shed its always windy where i live in chilliwack BC the sun shines right behind the shed all day and blocks most the wind but at night both plants are on the ground patio where mom has her tomato plants and other flowers just the one plant has bug activity the other one doesnt have any (fingers crossed) i have a shed should i put them in there at night with a fan on them ?
 

hodgey420

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Anyone no what those black bugs are in those pics? I found two more on my other plant was able to get them off safely with tweezers and killed those little fuckers lol
 

jondamon

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Also just caught this on my plant this is the tiny long bug i caught few days ago but heres it alive for now! lol what kind bug is it? and in the other pics i keep finding these white spots they eggs ?
Picture 1 2 and 3 are thrips.

as for 4 5 not clear enough to tell 6 could be dried water from moisture in the air or rain or splashes of nutrient mix.

are we going to see daily pictures with different pests?

seriously you can stop posting now or just deal with them.

we’ve already realised you’re being plagued by many different pests.

If you want to deal with it get something to use.
 

hodgey420

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Picture 1 2 and 3 are thrips.

as for 4 5 not clear enough to tell 6 could be dried water from moisture in the air or rain or splashes of nutrient mix.

are we going to see daily pictures with different pests?

seriously you can stop posting now or just deal with them.

we’ve already realised you’re being plagued by many different pests.

If you want to deal with it get something to use.
Ya i was thinking thrips to do thrips eat holes threw leafs? And think dawn dish soap and water is enough to kill them? And sorry just trying to get as much info as possible this my first grow doing this all on my own i got 2 other seedlings coming and both my seeds are sprouting nicely so want to make sure i get any issues fixed or get ahead of any bug infestations
 

jondamon

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Ya i was thinking thrips to do thrips eat holes threw leafs? And think dawn dish soap and water is enough to kill them? And sorry just trying to get as much info as possible this my first grow doing this all on my own i got 2 other seedlings coming and both my seeds are sprouting nicely so want to make sure i get any issues fixed or get ahead of any bug infestations
Then you’re failing miserably.

you’re outdoor bugs are inevitable.

use something systemic or get some insect nets to throw over your plants.
 

hodgey420

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Then you’re failing miserably.

you’re outdoor bugs are inevitable.

use something systemic or get some insect nets to throw over your plants.
Nets wont really do anything if there already hiding in the plant im just going to get neem oil think thats the only thing thats going to work ive tried soap and water and soap and water and vegatable oil both havent done anything still new leafs chomped
 

jondamon

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Nets wont really do anything if there already hiding in the plant im just going to get neem oil think thats the only thing thats going to work ive tried soap and water and soap and water and vegatable oil both havent done anything still new leafs chomped
Nets won’t do anything??? For real?

Get a bug killer that’s safe for our crops.

Spray plants.

throw a net over the plants to stop anything new.

wait for the old ones to die off.

spray periodically when required.

you’re trying home remedies on an outdoor plant that could be having new Infestations on a daily basis.
 

hodgey420

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Nets won’t do anything??? For real?

Get a bug killer that’s safe for our crops.

Spray plants.

throw a net over the plants to stop anything new.

wait for the old ones to die off.

spray periodically when required.

you’re trying home remedies on an outdoor plant that could be having new Infestations on a daily basis.
Sprayed neem oil on last night no new bug activity! But ya ill definitely get nets for them now after i kill these little bastards! My other plant has no bug activity and its beside the one that does have bug activity but its prob cause there all in the other plant lol
 

hodgey420

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Neem oil worked great no new bug activity and this time actually saw couple dead bugs and finally its sunny and hot today so my girls can finally get some sun!
 

jondamon

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Neem oil worked great no new bug activity and this time actually saw couple dead bugs and finally its sunny and hot today so my girls can finally get some sun!
You could also look into companion planting for any new outdoor grows.

 

mattypacks

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Growing outdoors your plants are like magnets for pests. The best approach to dealing with them is having a solid IPM (integrated pest management) program. From the point even before you even get plants out you need to be on top of it by providing your plants with everything they need to develop strong immune systems unless you're okay with using harsh insecticides/fungicides.

Right now I have a presence of aphids, they're indeed those little green bugs you see and in a later stage of maturity they can be found with wings.
I havent noticed any damage from them (thankfully) and noticed a handful of ladybugs coming to help. The only pest damage present is from leafhoppers, they chew little holes through the leaves and bounce. I believe using marigolds as companion planting can help deter leafhoppers (along with a good IPM program!)

I spray my plants every 7 days (even twice a week if pest presence is on the larger side) switching between neem seed meal, insect frass, and ill be adding neem oil to the schedule too. Its better to have more than one method of attack. Every watering I include silica which has many other benefits besides just helping your plants fight against pests.

Powdery mildew is a bitch, and if you have it, you're just going to have to fight it the best you can. Greencure (potassium bicarbonate)is pretty friendly, get that on schedule with your IPM sprays. Remove all affected leaves but be mindful not to completely strip or stress your plant out.
Make sure your plants are opened up and getting good airflow through and through,dense canopies mixed with bad air flow, high humidity, and cooler temps are all the parameters needed for PM to go wild.

Since its your first grow, and outdoors, one thing to be cautious of is budworms (moth caterpillars). Some areas dont have to worry about these, but its best to be very well prepared in advanced. These guys are the worst of the worst in my opinion. As soon as your plant starts flowering, eggs will be laid deep into the growth, and as the flowers get bigger, it makes a perfect hideout made of food. Not only do they destroy plant matter at a rapid rate, their droppings are perfect for mold, leading straight to budrot. The thing is you cant see them - they can be smaller than half a grain of rice and hiding deep in your flowers. Usually when detected its not because you see them, its because your flowers are rotting away. Ive had to throw out entire plants because of these guys. Safer brand caterpillar killer is a must have if budworms are an issue in your area. Its a type of bacteria that is toxic when digested. They wont be able to feed and eventually die off. This isnt a one and done fix - it takes some time to see results but spray well before your buds start developing, its not a good idea to introduce any moisture of any kind to your buds, but if you've gotta do it you've gotta do it.

Compost tea foliar sprays here and there can have all the benefits above combined, I highly suggest looking into how to make these, its cheap, organic, and can bring a whole bunch of positive benefits into your garden.

I grow completely organic, these methods work well for me because they are cost effective, simple, and only provide benefits to my garden, if you wanted to use other methods of pest management that is totally fine. Do whatever provides the best results. Good luck and happy growing!
 
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