So far no matter what I've tried I can't seem to stop drooping/curling/twisting leaves. Please help!

[Dipped Beef]

I've been able to stop the spread of yellowing/brown leaves however, I can't seem to get the leaves to stop drooping. Some of the newer leaves are twisting as well. I have two smaller plants to the right of the bigger ones(bigger ones are closer to the fan). I thought maybe it was over watering so I tried watering and waiting 3 days to water again but it didn't seem to make a difference. Also, when I water them they don't perk up so I don't think it's under watering. I've since directed the humidifier away from directly blowing on the plants and have raised the oscillating fan up more so it's not directly on the plants to see if that's why they're twisting/drooping and curling. I've read Alfalfa is really good for Cannabis so I sprinkled some Alfalfa seeds on top and put fresh Fox Farm Ocean Forest on top and gave it water(I read that Alfalfa is a great companion plant). My hope is that it will help with any nutrients it's not getting but I'm completely stumped on what I can do to help them stop drooping,curling and twisting.

It's about days 42 of this grow and I've noticed some of the white hairs are starting to turn orange.
Side question, should I be trimming the bottom leaves on this yet? Normally I would be more welcoming to the idea it's just that with the condition of the leaves I don't want to stress them out anymore.

Any help is greatly appreciated!

-Strain: Jack Herer Autoflower
-Soil: Fox Farm Ocean Forest.
-Nutrients: Fox Farm Trio (just using Big Bloom currently) and Cal/Mag.
I did use Big Bloom a couple of feedings but was told to just use pH and Cal/Mag (pH 6.5) because of a possible Nitrogen toxicity. I was only using pH'd water and Cal/Mag but it didn't seem to really help the leaves. I've since been only using pH'd water to 6.5-6.6 for the last feeding and will continue to do so to see if this will help at all.
-pH: 6.5-6.6
-Water: purified
-Light Spider Farms SF2000
-Temp:72-82
-Humidity:46-77%

 

[Wattzzup]

Nitrogen claw. Too much N

why u using cal mag in soil?

 

[Dipped Beef]

Nitrogen claw. Too much N

so was adding Alfalfa seeds to the pots a bad idea? Do you have any suggestions on how to get rid of Nitrogen claw?

 

[Wattzzup]

First thing first make sure your plant needs what you’re putting in. Ph your water to 6.5 and use water only the next couple of times. Let it dry out a little bit between waterings.

 

[IrkinBollikans]

Looks like just a bit too much N. That ocean forest is pretty strong stuff in my experience. Have done photo grows with just OF and tap water. Not to say that it was the best result, but just something to keep in mind. Not very familiar with autos, but I've seen many times that autos are pretty light feeders or something to that effect. Really doesnt look too bad at all though

 

[Dipped Beef]

Looks like just a bit too much N. That ocean forest is pretty strong stuff in my experience. Have done photo grows with just OF and tap water. Not to say that it was the best result, but just something to keep in mind. Not very familiar with autos, but I've seen many times that autos are pretty light feeders or something to that effect. Really doesnt look too bad at all though

So was adding alfalfa seeds to the pots a bad idea? Will it just add more Nitrogen to the soil and make it worse?

 

[IrkinBollikans]

So was adding alfalfa seeds to the pots a bad idea? Will it just add more Nitrogen to the soil and make it worse?

I really know nothing of cover crops. If it does add nitrogen to the soil, I would say you dont need it though. But I'd wait for others to chime in

 

[Wattzzup]

So was adding alfalfa seeds to the pots a bad idea? Will it just add more Nitrogen to the soil and make it worse?

You should know this if your putting it in your plant. I’ve never used it personally so I don’t know the NPK.

 

[PadawanWarrior]

so was adding Alfalfa seeds to the pots a bad idea? Do you have any suggestions on how to get rid of Nitrogen claw?

Alfalfa meal will add more N. It's kinda a hot organic amendment. Also those pots look pretty dry. I would water the shit outta them, then let them dry out a bit. You might wanna check your soil pH too.

 

[Dipped Beef]

Alfalfa meal will add more N. It's kinda a hot organic amendment. Also those pots look pretty dry. I would water the shit outta them, then let them dry out a bit. You might wanna check your soil pH too.

is Alfalfa meal and actual Alfalfa seeds as a cover crop different? I planted actual organic alfalfa seeds into the pot.

 

[Kassiopeija]

oh no, another toxic plant. and again autos. I'm sorry to say that but this will develop mediocre, at best. Your soil is very sharp, the plant already in a state of deadly too much fertilizer, and the pots are huge - so there will be no end in sight of new salts. Give only rainwater or pure water until the grow is over. For the next grow get some fems - not autos, and veg them longer (until the tent is full) and only start flower if they are healthy.
Also, remove that humidifier in flower. If you water, pour as much water into the pots so that 30% of the potsize drains out - remove thzis drain - it's heavy in salts.

Alfalfa meal will add more N. It's kinda a hot organic amendment

I think he added seeds so that some companion plants should sprout, I say should because, as you say, the top soil looks dry so I don't see that coming... he may have planted them bc the leguminose is a N-transfixating plant - however, that needs about 2-3 months time until the roots can build up the bacteria in the rootzone.

Actually a good idea - you could plant some tomatos into these pots as well - these grow very fast and leech alot of nutrients away - so the cannabis plants will have an easier time. It'll also fill in the blanks... and.... you'll have some tomatoes to eat

 

[Dipped Beef]

Alfalfa meal will add more N. It's kinda a hot organic amendment. Also those pots look pretty dry. I would water the shit outta them, then let them dry out a bit. You might wanna check your soil pH too.

Would you suggest cutting holes at the bottom of fabric pots to let the water drain or do fabric pots do this naturally?

 

[PadawanWarrior]

is Alfalfa meal and actual Alfalfa seeds as a cover crop different? I planted actual organic alfalfa seeds into the pot.

I would guess the seeds would take longer to break down, but I can't tell ya. I use the meal.

Would you suggest cutting holes at the bottom of fabric pots to let the water drain or do fabric pots do this naturally?

No, Don't cut the fabric pots. The water will drain straight through.

 

[PadawanWarrior]

oh no, another toxic plant. and again autos. I'm sorry to say that but this will develop mediocre, at best. Your soil is very sharp, the plant already in a state of deadly too much fertilizer, and the pots are huge - so there will be no end in sight of new salts. Give only rainwater or pure water until the grow is over. For the next grow get some fems - not autos, and veg them longer (until the tent is full) and only start flower if they are healthy.
Also, remove that humidifier in flower. If you water, pour as much water into the pots so that 30% of the potsize drains out - remove thzis drain - it's heavy in salts.


I think he added seeds so that some companion plants should sprout, I say should because, as you say, the top soil looks dry so I don't see that coming... he may have planted them bc the leguminose is a N-transfixating plant - however, that needs about 2-3 months time until the roots can build up the bacteria in the rootzone.

Actually a good idea - you could plant some tomatos into these pots as well - these grow very fast and leech alot of nutrients away - so the cannabis plants will have an easier time. It'll also fill in the blanks... and.... you'll have some tomatoes to eat

I wouldn't want alfalfa in my pots. It can get like 3 ft tall. No fun for an indoor cannabis plant. I think you're right though. They are probably a type that will grow. I would use clover instead if you want a cover crop.

 

[shuu80]

Who got pictures of cover crops with theyre cannabis?

 

[Kassiopeija]

clover

Indeed. Actually, before this posts didn't even knew what Alfalfa is, so had to look it up. The clover is mostly used by farmers outdoor to get some N back into the soil. Not really helpful indoors....

I've experimented with some "companion plants" by myself, just for jolly. The best so far I've found is

Stellaria media - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

it needs very little fertilizer, stays very low (kinda creeps), grows very tight (so it totally covers the soil) and it can be eaten - it's actually high in Vitamin C, a simple good addition to any salat or so... it also tastes not bad, not bitter at all.

But there are many other interesting plants for this, too, some even bringing growth steroids to the table, like this one

Viscaria vulgaris - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

it contains huge amounts of

Brassinosteroid - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

give it a try if you are out to maximize harvest weight, it's very potent. but it's not everywhere officially approved

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and can be composted or extracted and it'll boost plant growth & health tremendously (much better than simple hormones - these steroids actually BOOST other hormones - and they are found everywhere in plants, because its not a single steroid but a whole class of about 100 compounds).

 

[Kassiopeija]

Who got pictures of cover crops with theyre cannabis?

lol can you read minds or what?

 

[PadawanWarrior]

Indeed. Actually, before this posts didn't even knew what Alfalfa is, so had to look it up. The clover is mostly used by farmers outdoor to get some N back into the soil. Not really helpful indoors....

I've experimented with some "companion plants" by myself, just for jolly. The best so far I've found is

Stellaria media - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

it needs very little fertilizer, stays very low (kinda creeps), grows very tight (so it totally covers the soil) and it can be eaten - it's actually high in Vitamin C, a simple good addition to any salat or so... it also tastes not bad, not bitter at all.

But there are many other interesting plants for this, too, some even bringing growth steroids to the table, like this one

Viscaria vulgaris - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

it contains huge amounts of

Brassinosteroid - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

give it a try if you are out to maximize harvest weight, it's very potent. but it's not everywhere officially approved

(93,90 EUR/kg) Pechnelkenextrakt (100 g) Pechnelken Extrakt Pechnelke Pulver | eBay

Die Wirkung von Pechnelken Extrakt basiert auf einem Extrakt aus speziell angebauten Pflanzen, deren Wirkung durch jahrelange Forschung untersucht wurde. Nur gesunde und vitale Pflanzen können quantitativ und qualitativ höhere Erträge erzielen.

www.ebay.de

and can be composted or extracted and it'll boost plant growth & health tremendously (much better than simple hormones - these steroids actually BOOST other hormones - and they are found everywhere in plants, because its not a single steroid but a whole class of about 100 compounds).

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I hope you aren't using that meter to test you pH. Mine was a piece of shit and so I sent it back to Amazon after I tried it. It would read 7.8 no matter what.

Here's a good read about cover crops, with some decent pics.

Alfalfa living mulch?

hello all, im considering adding some cover crops to my containers as a "living mulch." i have seeds of alfalfa, crimson clover and braco mustard. im...

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I have white Dutch clover, but I haven't added it to my no-till weed pots yet. I'm just using rice hulls as a mulch. I am testing the white clover on some houseplants though. The pic sucks cause I just took it and the sun was going down.

 

[Kassiopeija]

I hope you aren't using that meter to test you pH. Mine was a piece of shit and so I sent it back to Amazon after I tried it. It would read 7.8 no matter what.

Here's a good read about cover crops, with some decent pics.

Great link man - I got red clover here but it'll shoot quite high upon flowerering. Seems the white one is better...

Well, I got these meters real cheap like 1€ per piece. The pH shows differenly on each, so its unusable. But the moisture setting is helpful for big pots at the back of the tent, where it's hard to lift the pots up. The pointer actually doesn't use the full display, but one can just wait for one time to wait for the drooping, then mark the display at that point with red, and after watering with blue, so that's the Min-Max. It's also possible to change the sensitivity a bit by adjusting the gap between the two metal probes.

 

[Kassiopeija]

Actually the day before yesterday I wanted to order some of these meters again so I can have one in each pot but now they are like 7€ per piece.... that's what browser cookies do I guess...