Looking for spider farmer

Soupsaa

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Is there any promo code for spider farmer led grow light out there? Are they worth it for the price?
 

Soupsaa

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Right now on looking at the spider farmer sf4000 an the mars hydro ts 3000. Which one would be the best out of them two. Spider farmer is at $580 while mars hydro is at $450. Which will be the best bang for your buck
 

Saysayno

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My cousin has the sf4000. I picked it out for him when I set up his grow. It’s a great light. Strong as all hell. I’d go with SF.
make sure you have headroom. The dimming option sucks bc you have to remove the ballast to dim it.
look at number of LED’s per watts used when looking for Lm301b grow lights.
 

Soupsaa

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Yeah I think the spider farmer will be better than the mars hydro I check the ppfd map an spider farmer have better numbers
 

Rocket Soul

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Kingbrite HLG.
:hump:
SF and mars hydro are crappy lights at that price, there are much better options: HLG 550 clones from alibaba are allright for the price but shipping might be killer.
How big is your space, OP?
You can easily make a better light for less if your prepared to make very basic connections/easy diy and thus stay away from china lights. Or use a china light a less wattage to avoid stressing diodes.
 

Soupsaa

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SF and mars hydro are crappy lights at that price, there are much better options: HLG 550 clones from alibaba are allright for the price but shipping might be killer.
How big is your space, OP?
You can easily make a better light for less if your prepared to make very basic connections/easy diy and thus stay away from china lights. Or use a china light a less wattage to avoid stressing diodes.
How long will shipping takes I dont wanna wait months to recieve it. Space is a 5 x 5
 

Rocket Soul

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Have a look att this thread.
For a 5x5 done properly atleast 750w of quality leds and definitely more than 1 fixture or points of lights. If only 1 if will be shitty light in edges and corners.
 

TreeFarmerCharlie

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How long will shipping takes I dont wanna wait months to recieve it. Space is a 5 x 5
If you aren’t prepared to pay $800 or more for LED to light a 5x5 then just go with HPS or something similar. Any ready to go light that cost less than $1/watt is usually a crap light and you need at least 750-800W of quality LED for a 5x5.
 

Rocket Soul

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If you aren’t prepared to pay $800 or more for LED to light a 5x5 then just go with HPS or something similar. Any ready to go light that cost less than $1/watt is usually a crap light and you need at least 750-800W of quality LED for a 5x5.
The closest to a to a cheap and decent solution to this would be 4x qb96 on 2x hlg320: they would need about 2.5-3 ft hanging height and the setup would be 250ish for the qbs with RIU10 discount and about 160$ iirc for drivers. But then id just get another 2 qbs for another 125 and run them a bit softer.
So it can be done for less and even close to the SF/Mars prices.

OP,Just dont get mars or SF. Check out the threads about SF/mars on here and then go check out the 100s of pages of happy peeps on DIY with quantum boards thread. I usually try too save money aswell and have bought several led boards from china. But if youre in the US this deal (and with the great aftersales services) is to good to miss out on.
 

TreeFarmerCharlie

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The closest to a to a cheap and decent solution to this would be 4x qb96 on 2x hlg320: they would need about 2.5-3 ft hanging height and the setup would be 250ish for the qbs with RIU10 discount and about 160$ iirc for drivers. But then id just get another 2 qbs for another 125 and run them a bit softer.
So it can be done for less and even close to the SF/Mars prices.

OP,Just dont get mars or SF. Check out the threads about SF/mars on here and then go check out the 100s of pages of happy peeps on DIY with quantum boards thread. I usually try too save money aswell and have bought several led boards from china. But if youre in the US this deal (and with the great aftersales services) is to good to miss out on.
Yeah, I know it can be DIYd for less, I was specifically talking about "ready to go" lights.
 

kmog33

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Have a look att this thread.
For a 5x5 done properly atleast 750w of quality leds and definitely more than 1 fixture or points of lights. If only 1 if will be shitty light in edges and corners.
If you dont have at min 750+ watts in a 4x4, you’re losing yield in your space...a 5x5 you’re looking more like 900+
 

Rocket Soul

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If you dont have at min 750+ watts in a 4x4, you’re losing yield in your space...a 5x5 you’re looking more like 900+
Seems like op is on a budget. 30w per foot works fine if you optimalize it, running soft and close to cannopy with a redsuped spectrum. Have a look at cobshopgrows grow, he does a around 10 feet with 220w in top lights with good results. But ideally yeah put in more light and it will grow more generally but overlighting is no good neither, many setups were medium and growstyls do not allow for 1000ppfd. Ymmv
 

Rocket Soul

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Yeah, I know it can be DIYd for less, I was specifically talking about "ready to go" lights.
Definitely. But how far is a qb96 from a finished light? Half the problem of diy is sourcing parts and actually getting over those last moment "pull the trigger" nerves. Anyone who is willing and ready to setup a hps should also be ready to do a qb96. Its just screw driver and push in connectors in a low voltage circuit, hps is around 400V iirc.
 

TreeFarmerCharlie

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Definitely. But how far is a qb96 from a finished light? Half the problem of diy is sourcing parts and actually getting over those last moment "pull the trigger" nerves. Anyone who is willing and ready to setup a hps should also be ready to do a qb96. Its just screw driver and push in connectors in a low voltage circuit, hps is around 400V iirc.
I totally agree but some people look at wire nuts, or wagos, and they get freaked out and think it's too much work. :lol:
 

Rocket Soul

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I totally agree but some people look at wire nuts, or wagos, and they get freaked out and think it's too much work. :lol:
All they need to do is ask for help. My first build was 6m2 of china led boards, no experience really and they still work fine. Its just about getting on with it.

But my real reason of recing diy so much is probably sentimental: the feeling you get when you see your own design beating the pants of store bought or pro-designed; just cause you took the time to understand some basic aspect of tech and your space, is absolutely incredible. The high of seeing it beat g/w you never dare dream of is just awesome.
 

kmog33

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Seems like op is on a budget. 30w per foot works fine if you optimalize it, running soft and close to cannopy with a redsuped spectrum. Have a look at cobshopgrows grow, he does a around 10 feet with 220w in top lights with good results. But ideally yeah put in more light and it will grow more generally but overlighting is no good neither, many setups were medium and growstyls do not allow for 1000ppfd. Ymmv
You should be able to run 9-1100 ppfd no problem in any controlled room. There’s nowhere in my space that gets less in flower. Veg I have like 80-200 lol.
 

loldongs9

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I am also in the process of setting up a 5x5 tent. Would a single SF-4000 work for the veg stage at least until the kingbrite 320w board arrives in time for flowering? Or do I need maximum coverage from start to finish?
 
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