Michigan dam break

MICHI-CAN

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As if a 100 year plague isn't enough two dams failed in midland MI. I am hoping everyone is ok. @MICHI-CAN you ok
Thank you for asking. I'm fine. Other side of the state. I have an Aunt and Uncle who lost some livestock and a couple out buildings on the hobby farm. But no losses of life or health fortunately. The animals escaped. Not washed away. Just one thing after another for all of us. Be safe people. Keep wearing those masks and sterilizing everything. The more dilligent we are. The sooner we can began to relax again. And all you group socializers need to quit. It isn't over yet.
 

curious2garden

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Thank you for asking. I'm fine. Other side of the state. I have an Aunt and Uncle who lost some livestock and a couple out buildings on the hobby farm. But no losses of life or health fortunately. The animals escaped. Not washed away. Just one thing after another for all of us. Be safe people. Keep wearing those masks and sterilizing everything. The more dilligent we are. The sooner we can began to relax again. And all you group socializers need to quit. It isn't over yet.
I'm glad you are ok. Thank you for letting us know and you too stay safe.
 

Don_Sequitor

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Apparently one of the dams had it license revoked in 2018. It was deem structurally sound however did not meet the spillway capacity guidelines.

Tropical storm Arthur, in North Carolina, trapped the rain in Michigan with nowhere to go.
 

MICHI-CAN

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Apparently one of the dams had it license revoked in 2018. It was deem structurally sound however did not meet the spillway capacity guidelines.

Tropical storm Arthur, in North Carolina, trapped the rain in Michigan with nowhere to go.
Dick Schnieder didn't want to touch water issues here after the Flint scam.
 

JoeBlow5823

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… Rick Snyder (?)

I know. Corrosive water in an old distribution system resulted in hazardous level of lead.
The people who drink unpurified municipal water weren't right in the head to begin with, i doubt the lead had much affect. That shit had to have tasted so bad. A simple britta filter is all you need to have perfectly safe water.
 

Bubbas.dad1

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The people who drink unpurified municipal water weren't right in the head to begin with, i doubt the lead had much affect. That shit had to have tasted so bad. A simple britta filter is all you need to have perfectly safe water.
The folks drinking the water were the poor ones, Flint is a island of poor, in mid Michigan. The real issue is not that they made a mistake with pumping acidic water into a urban water system, but when they found out, they covered it up and did nothing. Early on a GM plant complained that they water was too corrosive to use in the plant for cleaning parts. They still did nothing. Nobody wanted to admit to a mistake, and never looked into what it would lead too. Children can suffer life long damage from lead exposure.

A lot of people around here drink municipal water. It was a surprise to a lot of folks that a system could be contaminated like that. I grew up drinking water from the Detroit system.

I don’t know if a Britta filter would filter out lead. I would certainly not trust it too.
 

Bubbas.dad1

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One thing that I haven’t seen addressed, is are they going to rebuild the dams ?They were built almost a century ago, when there was little or no regulation. Damming streams is pretty rare now, for environmental reasons. And the cost would be massive. I don’t know if the company that owned the dams has insurance. It is a small company. I believe the dams were built for electric production when the grid was existing in mid Michigan, by the Dow chemical company. They sold them off many years ago. A lot of folks may have lost their expensive lake front property.
 

JoeBlow5823

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The folks drinking the water were the poor ones, Flint is a island of poor, in mid Michigan. The real issue is not that they made a mistake with pumping acidic water into a urban water system, but when they found out, they covered it up and did nothing. Early on a GM plant complained that they water was too corrosive to use in the plant for cleaning parts. They still did nothing. Nobody wanted to admit to a mistake, and never looked into what it would lead too. Children can suffer life long damage from lead exposure.

A lot of people around here drink municipal water. It was a surprise to a lot of folks that a system could be contaminated like that. I grew up drinking water from the Detroit system.

I don’t know if a Britta filter would filter out lead. I would certainly not trust it too.
"Lead in tap water can come from corrosion of household plumbing systems, or erosion of natural deposits. ... Both Brita® Faucet Systems and Brita® Longlast™ Filters are certified to remove 99% of lead that may be found in tap water. "

Anyone using a Brita filter would most definitely have been in the safe range of lead content. Their water was literally coming out of the faucet brown. It had to have tasted SO BAD.

I only drink water that has been filtered through the one linked below as well as a Brita.

 

Herb & Suds

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"Lead in tap water can come from corrosion of household plumbing systems, or erosion of natural deposits. ... Both Brita® Faucet Systems and Brita® Longlast™ Filters are certified to remove 99% of lead that may be found in tap water. "

Anyone using a Brita filter would most definitely have been in the safe range of lead content. Their water was literally coming out of the faucet brown. It had to have tasted SO BAD.

I only drink water that has been filtered through the one linked below as well as a Brita.

A poor family of four with tap water the color of rust isn't going to be able to afford Brita filters and if you were there, you would have did what most did, drank donated bottle water
but I am sure I am picking up what you are trying to lay down
 

Bubbas.dad1

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I just read that the dams are probably not going to be rebuilt. The cost is in the tens of millions, each, and the property owners would have to foot the bill. The company that owns the dams is basically broke. And a 3rd dam has been flagged by the FERC folks as damaged. Not good news for the locals.
 

Don_Sequitor

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I just read that the dams are probably not going to be rebuilt. The cost is in the tens of millions, each, and the property owners would have to foot the bill. The company that owns the dams is basically broke. And a 3rd dam has been flagged by the FERC folks as damaged. Not good news for the locals.
I try not to get emotional about water.
 

GrowRijt

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What people haven’t heard much about is the state and lake residents sued the dam operator to keep lake levels high so they could use watercraft and protect freshwater mussels.

if They would have been able to keep the lake levels at lower run of river levels this wouldn't have happened at all.
 

Bubbas.dad1

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What people haven’t heard much about is the state and lake residents sued the dam operator to keep lake levels high so they could use watercraft and protect freshwater mussels.

if They would have been able to keep the lake levels at lower run of river levels this wouldn't have happened at all.
I suspect that the mussels issue was started by the locals to justify higher lake levels.
 
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